Guns: how much longer will it take ....

@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

specious arguments. Planned parenthood isnt the issue. All youre doing is attempting comparisons to bolster your argument. if youve no way to provide evidence for your beliefs, you are merely engaging in diversion by false dichotomy.
Its a beginners debate trick that usually gets flagged as weak minded or falsely misleading. Which is yours?

His argument is reasonable. When people pretend that the NRA is somehow unusual, it is appropriate to point out how they compare to other organizations.

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@MontereyJack,

MontereyJack wrote:

farmer is almost always completely correct and well-informed and well-thought-out, as opposed to the NRA stooges, who pretty much bat .000.

Funny how you've failed to find out any errors on the gun rights side.

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@edgarblythe,

edgarblythe wrote:

Only firmly rooted legislation will stop the slaughter of the innocent by these weapons.

We've had such laws since 1934. That's 84 years now.

edgarblythe wrote:

The NRA is a huge part of the problem,

Well, only if defense of civil rights is a "problem".

edgarblythe wrote:

but rabid gun advocates who may not always belong to that organization are clearly unhinged. Their hysteria feeds the unbalanced ones among the far right to take up arms against fellow citizens, who act out on the fear and hatred to start shooting.

I am unaware of any such shootings.

If such shootings ever do occur, I will place the blame squarely on the shoulders of people who call for the Second Amendment to be violated for no reason.

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@Olivier5,

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"They [the NRA] have gotten this machine in motion that accepts money from the gun manufacturers," said Hartland, 66, a former law enforcement officer in Platte County and analyst for the Defense Department. "Gun manufacturers are very concerned about their future and any kind of gun control. That’s the mark of doom for them.

It is just the opposite actually. The gun manufacturers have no objections at all to unconstitutional gun laws, so long as they are still allowed to manufacture guns of some sort.

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Ware, who joined Hartland's Facebook group after the Parkland shooting, said the momentum and the numbers are not on the NRA’s side.

A psychiatrist could make a successful career out of analyzing why the Freedom Haters delude themselves into believing that the group that always defeats them has no power.

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@Olivier5,

Olivier5 wrote:

They can't stop talking about him even when they suggest they shouldn't.

Do you have any evidence of this author repeatedly talking about this whiny brat?

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@oralloy,

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Do you have any evidence of this author repeatedly talking about this whiny brat?

Matt Walsh is a very popular writer, just not with people of Oliver's persuasion. He regularly tears progressives and liberals new buttholes.

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@coldjoint,

its only his opinion writing, facts are usually optional. kinda like your magenta mind-farts

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@farmerman,

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facts are usually optional

Not surprised you noticed that, it seems to work well for you.

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@gungasnake,

Gunga, the snake that's full of venom.

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@MontereyJack,

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Gunga, the snake that's full of venom.

No more than the progressives that fund that little viper.

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@coldjoint,

the triuth to power David is speaking is really getting to you, isn't it.

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@MontereyJack,

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the triuth to power David is speaking is really getting to you, isn't it.

No it has not, but it has certainly gotten to you. Laughing

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@MontereyJack,

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the triuth to power David is speaking is really getting to you, isn't it.

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… Alvarez, who spoke to reporters at a vigil for victims of the area’s second mass shooting in 13 months, said he wishes he had said something earlier. “I could have said something to administrators, that ‘hey this kid gets bullied a lot, please help him, please reach out to him.’ I kind of regret not doing that,” Alvarez said.

Catch that? Nikolas Cruz wasn’t just bullied — he was “bullied a lot.”

Truth to power? You want these children moralizing, I do not.
https://spectator.org/parkland-students-bullied-shooter/

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Meet the other David Hogg: He’s 16, already in college and a supporter of the #2A

I like this one better.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/04/01/meet-the-other-david-hogg-hes-16-already-in-college-and-a-supporter-of-the-2a/

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@coldjoint,

Go back and read some okf the accounts of Cruz's behavior. He'd been oout of control, violent, and aggressive since middle school. He'd terrorized his neighboras and their pets, his family, and his mother--she was thinking of giving up her parental rights in him. He'd been reported to the cops something like thirty times, been expelled from school for his behavior, been in therapy and dropped out. Basically it sounds like he'd been thoroughly unpleasant and dangerous to be around for years.He bullied everybody else, which led to being bullied back. He was sick, and sa lot of people should hsve red flagged him. Appoarently a number of people did, but he still bought guns legally and killed 17 people,at random, for which there is NO excuse.

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@MontereyJack,

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He was sick, and sa lot of people should hsve red flagged him. Appoarently a number of people did, but he still bought guns legally and killed 17 people, for which there is NO excuse.

So it has nothing to do with guns, that is what you really just said. He got those guns because no one, including the authorities, acted. Therefore this is a manufactured crisis, nothing more. The reason being guns are not to blame, the inaction of the students and the authorities are the cause, but that will not stop the Left.

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@coldjoint,

Bullshit. He killed 17 people at random with a gun. It's got everything to do with guns. Guns are lethal. A lethal tool is still a lethal tool no matter how you try to phony "civil rights" it.

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@MontereyJack,

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Bullshit. He killed 17 people at random with a gun.

They were not at random, they went to his school. It has nothing to do with guns unless they are the cause of mental illness and very sloppy police work.

Rhetoric is not an argument. Please try a little harder.

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