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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 30 Mar, 2018 11:13 pm
@coldjoint,
Dear God, you must be huffing.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 30 Mar, 2018 11:17 pm
@glitterbag,
Quote:
Dear God, you must be huffing.

No, but I can tell what I am doing is not replying to you anymore. You need to let go. I'll only break your heart, your mind is already shot. Laughing Laughing Laughing
glitterbag
 
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Reply Fri 30 Mar, 2018 11:30 pm
@coldjoint,
Oh ****, no!!!!! I think I'll manage, but thanks for whatever it is you do.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 12:21 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

McGentrix wrote:
By doing this, the person quoted attacked David Hogg viciously, personally, and dishonestly. Then uses his age as though that is a qualification of intelligence. The author has no knowledge of Hogg's knowledge of guns or the Constitution.

The kids are calling for meaningless civil rights violations to be imposed on innocent people for no reason. If they aren't doing it out of ignorance, they are doing it out of malice.

I think the main point of the article is that these kids should just be ignored. I think that's good advice.


Kids call for lots of ****. They always have and they always will. Despite that, the author proves himself as big an asshole as what he claims Hogg is. It's hypocrisy and nothing more.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 01:41 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Listen to yourself. You're whining.

Not really.

My most pressing concern right now is what kind of theater I'm going to go see Avengers Infinity War at. There are no Laser IMAXs in my area so I'm going to have to accept some sort of trade off. I have to choose between "3D IMAX at 2K" (on a 70 foot LieMax screen) or "2D scope at 4K" (on a 74 foot Premium Large Format screen).

Similar dilemma on the new Star Wars Han Solo movie, although that's a slightly easier one to resolve. "3D scope at 2K" or "2D scope at 4K" (both on a 74 foot Premium Large Format screen).

I'm also kind of hoping that the falling space station puts on a good light show right over Michigan (and doesn't kill me with falling debris at the same time).

I already know that the NRA is going to prevent you from violating my civil rights, so that's one thing that I'm not concerned about.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 03:43 am
@McGentrix,
Walsh wrote:
Why Don't We All Just Ignore David Hogg?

Says he, while speaking compulsively about David Hogg...
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 04:02 am
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Says he, while speaking compulsively about David Hogg...

How exactly does "making a suggestion that we ignore the whiny brat" amount to "speaking compulsively"?
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 08:09 am
@oralloy,
They can't stop talking about him even when they suggest they shouldn't.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 08:12 am
Quote:
HOW BIG IS THE NRA?
GUN GROUP’S MEMBERSHIP MIGHT NOT BE AS POWERFUL AS IT SAYS

BY RYAN SIT ON 3/30/18, Newsweek

Bill Ware, like a lot of children growing up in North Carolina in the 1960s, bonded with his father while shooting a rifle. He was 7 or 8 years old when his father introduced him to firearms.

“He thought—many men of that era thought—What the hell am I gonna do with this kid? I know: I’ll get out the .22,” said the now 59-year-old, a long-haul truck driver living in Spartanburg, South Carolina, with his wife, Debby. She, too, has childhood memories of shooting, her father holding on to her so the blast wouldn't rock her backward. [...]

When Ware was about 13, his father bought him his first gun, a Savage Model 24D .22/.410 combo rifle. Later, he would become the captain of his high school’s rifle team.

“This was the NRA to me, the NRA that supported the BB gun program, the .22 camp, the rifle camp,” he said. “I owe so much to the NRA of that time.”

But Ware no longer recognizes that sportsmanship in today’s NRA, he told Newsweek.

“The NRA is a rabid dog. It is a rogue outfit,” Ware said. “Whatever its purposes are, they are not mine. They do not speak for me.”

As the number of children killed due to gun violence increases, poll after poll shows increasing support for stricter gun legislation among the general American public and the country’s estimated 55 million gun owners specifically. A Quinnipiac poll conducted in the days after February's Parkland, Florida, school shooting—arguably a watershed moment in the movement to end gun violence—showed 97 percent of surveyed gun owners support universal background checks for gun purchases.

Despite those numbers, the National Rifle Association continues to oppose such legislation, [...]

Queries about the NRA’s membership have dogged the gun group for years, but they aren't merely academic or trivial. The gun rights organization is one of the most influential nonprofits in the United States because of both its prolific spending and its core base of gun rights activists. [...]

Kent Hartland, a gun owner from Missouri who started the Facebook group Gun Owners for Responsible Gun Control in 2016, said the NRA was once focused on outdoorsmanship but evolved into a primarily political operation in the 1970s.

"They [the NRA] have gotten this machine in motion that accepts money from the gun manufacturers," said Hartland, 66, a former law enforcement officer in Platte County and analyst for the Defense Department. "Gun manufacturers are very concerned about their future and any kind of gun control. That’s the mark of doom for them.

"They buy these politicians, kicking up millions of dollars per year for gun-friendly, gun-in-every-hand, flood-the-streets-with-guns legislation," Hartland continued. "There’s so much grease going from palm to palm, it’s pretty hard to stop the machine now." [...]

Still, if there are an estimated 55 million gun owners in the U.S., even at 5 million members the NRA would account for less than 10 percent of the gun owning community.

“Let’s say it's 10 million [members],” said Ware, the South Carolinian gun owner. “That’s still a fraction of the gun owners out there.”

Ware, who joined Hartland's Facebook group after the Parkland shooting, said the momentum and the numbers are not on the NRA’s side.

“I got disturbed after Las Vegas. I got disturbed after Parkland. I was feeling like I killed Jaime Guttenberg,” he said, referring to one of the Stoneman Douglas victims. “Gun owners, we killed Jaime Guttenberg by our inactivity.

“We could’ve said no after Columbine. We didn't," Ware continued. "We could have said no after Virginia Tech. We didn’t. Those of us, who up until now guns were in our life but not our life, we can’t continue to be casual about this issue. The next Jaime Guttenberg is on our hands.”

http://www.newsweek.com/nra-membership-5-million-members-analysis-842040
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 09:09 am
@Olivier5,
and the fact that the "Original NRA" was a leader in getting "Dangerous weapons" becoming outlawed without special licences in the Federql Firearms Act as originally proposed.

Following their history is one of the growth of a cynical "advertisement for the manufacture and sales of its lethal product"



edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 09:20 am
@farmerman,
Only firmly rooted legislation will stop the slaughter of the innocent by these weapons. The NRA is a huge part of the problem, but rabid gun advocates who may not always belong to that organization are clearly unhinged. Their hysteria feeds the unbalanced ones among the far right to take up arms against fellow citizens, who act out on the fear and hatred to start shooting.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 11:55 am
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
Only firmly rooted legislation will stop the slaughter of the innocent by these weapons. The NRA is a huge part of the problem,


By these weapons? Weapons, themselves, kill no one. And the NRA simply has nothing to do with crime. Or can you show me terror connections like I could show you with CAIR?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 12:59 pm
Quote:
13-Yr-Old Running for Governor as Democrat, Will Ban Semi-Automatic Guns (Details)


Here is your answer a 13 year old supporting a gun ban. Should we also ask him about tariffs and terror? Perhaps you should ask his opinion on Russian sanctions or the failure of law enforcement in the Parkland shooting?

22 more years and voila here is your president, and as you can see is very easy to manipulate. A perfect fit for progressives.


https://bluntforcetruth.com/news/13-yr-old-running-governor-democrat-will-ban-semi-automatic-guns-details/
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 01:02 pm
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29694826_1892522410827291_5519943044312520374_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=9ff44a50efd6887dada3caa8fe54f5a7&oe=5B2C85F7
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 01:03 pm
@gungasnake,
Spot on.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 01:09 pm
Quote:
Students at Florida high school stage walkout in support of Second Amendment

Quote:
They walked onto the schools track carrying the American flag and signs that said “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” and “I support the right to bear arms,” the paper reported. Some wore Trump “Make America Great Again” hats and camouflage clothing.

Are we letting the wrong children make our laws? Laughing Laughing Laughing
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/31/students-at-florida-high-school-stage-walkout-in-support-second-amendment.html
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 01:44 pm
Quote:
With thanks to MJA – The Addams Activists:


http://patriotretort.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/The-Addams-Activists.jpg
Laughing Laughing Laughing
http://patriotretort.com/the-addams-activists/
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 01:49 pm
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2018 01:53 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
Are we letting the wrong children make our laws?
Apparently so, they dont seem to want to do anything for their pay if it interferes with gifts from donor gun industries and the NRA.

 

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