@Fountofwisdom,
Fountofwisdom wrote:
I'm talking absolutes: murder of civilians by dropping bombs on them is wrong: There is no evidence to suggest that any of the people killed by the bombs were involved in the attacks in Lebanon> I would say it was probably unlikely: on the grounds that most hadn't been born then.
This is not revenge, it is not justice. It is genocide. As long as you do not condemn murder you cannnot hold any moral ground at all. If the Israelis read the Old testament there is a commandment that reads thoult shalt not Kill.
It does not have sub clauses. Murder is wrong.
There are no absolutes when you do not address the intimidation of having rockets sent against Israel's civilians.
The Gazans freely elected Hamas. Hamas will not recognize Israel's right to exist. Hamas therefore believes it is their prerogative to send rockets onto Israeli civilian targets. Therefore, there is a certain collective culpability of all Gazans .
So, while Israel targets military targets, the civilian Gazan casualties do have a degree of culpability, I believe, since they did want Hamas (knowing that Hamas has an intransigent attitude towards Israel).
Yes, murder is wrong. Wrong when it is done by one civilian against another civilian. Here we have military. The military may not come under the rubric of thou shalt not kill (when it is part of a military conflict against an enemy).
You seem to be looking for objective morality, when it seems to be subjective morality that continues the conflict. But, you are entitled to your opinion. So am I.