@rosborne979,
rosborne979 wrote:OmSigDAVID wrote:Yeah, right, because I was gonna profit so much from it.
If you simply said, "I had an experience and I believe it even though there is no scientific evidence for my conclusions", I wouldn't object.
But it's a very different matter to claim that there is valid empirical evidence for something when there isn't. Joan Rivers' claims of knowing something which could not have been known except through her NDE are unsubstantiated. If any such claims were empirically substantiated, we would already know about it because it would be earth-shattering news, the mechanism behind which would immediately be worth billions to the communications industry (to say nothing of the impact it could have on general physics).
At the moment, I 'm rather actively preparing for
a trip to Florida in a few hours, so my time is curtailed,
but I 'll summarize in saying that I 've posted the experience
of a lady who informs us that she died while giving birth
in the 1950s, she made some observations of her other children
who were interacting with people at that point in time,
and her observations at places
remote from the hospital room
wherein her body died, were objectively verified.
I 've also pointed out that people have been disinherited because of
having been overheard by decedents' disembodied spirits badmouthing the deceased
among assembled family members out in the hospital waiting room,
who returned to life, returned to their lawyers, and changed their wills.
It
almost sounds as if u were telling me to shut up,
tho u 've been decent enuf not to put it that boldly nor harshly.
These r experiences that I 've had (to a limited degree) and
that other folks say thay 've had. I don 't get the impression
that thay r deceptive; in point of fact,
some of them
r very shy, timid (almost approaching being apologetic)
and fearful of coming out with their disembodied adventures.
Some act as tho thay r embarrassed to admit it,
but since I brought up the subject. . . yada, yada, yada.
979, I 've had the experience of being told by people that
the most painful part of their lives have been loss of a
family member (e.g., a child). When I soberly offer some
of this information (in an effort to relieve that pain)
as to the error of "death" and its
non-finality,
I have been
screamed at in anger. One elderly woman screamed that her little boy
"is a pile of rotting meat in a cemetary." How
dare I impugn his status as rotting meat !??!
U were more polite than that.
Some people have very emotional investments in
NON-survival
of death of the material body. In time, thay may be in for a disappointment.
