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Who actually wrote the Bible?

 
 
Sat 4 Jun, 2016 06:54 pm
Is the Bible Man's Word or God's Word? Can the Bible really tell us the future for mankind or is it just the best thinking of Men of the age when it was written? More importantly- Can the Bible contain errors? And if it does, then what?

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cicerone imposter
 
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Sat 4 Jun, 2016 07:02 pm
@BroRando,
You can type into any search engine: "errors, omissions, and contradictions in the bible" to find the answers.
People who believe in the bible ignore them.
http://www.biblica.com/en-us/bible/bible-faqs/who-wrote-the-bible/
BroRando
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 07:19 am
@cicerone imposter,
Thank you. Yes. However the errors found are in man's translation itself leading people away from Jesus Christ. However, the true and faithful witness from the Hebrew/Aramic and Christian Greek Scriptures can still be found. "All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work." (2 Timothy 3:16)

Conclusion, the error, omsissions, and contradictions are not in the Biible itself, rather in man's translations.
Leadfoot
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 07:54 am
@BroRando,
The problem with your 'translation' hypothesis is it would mean God did not care enough or was not able to preserve the message he wanted us to have. That is an absurd position to take on the face of it for a believer.

Most of the bible is not literally the word of God but it contains the essential message he wanted to convey. One need not be an expert in ancient languages to see it there.

The insistence of some believers that it is all literally the word of God alienates a lot of people. You need not go back very far in this thread to see that.
edgarblythe
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 08:46 am
@BroRando,
I have it on good authority the Bible was written by an earlier incarnation of Mickey Spillane.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 08:55 am
@BroRando,
So, according to the bible, this planet is 7000 years old. That's an error in translation? LOL
You can refute science all you wish about the evolution of humans.
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-sapiens
BroRando
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 09:09 am
@cicerone imposter,
No. The earth is approxaimately 65 Million years old. The Days are epochs of time or time periods. For one, what was created on the Second Day? Religion doesn't know this answer. I love Science.
BroRando
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 09:14 am
@Leadfoot,
Actually, man's translations, alienates mankind from God.
Leadfoot
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 09:19 am
@BroRando,
So God let man subvert his message to man? This happens on an individual basis (we are free to ignore,laugh at, misconstrue, etc) but God would not let that message be mistranslated to an extent that a common man could not see it if he earnestly sought it.
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TomTomBinks
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 09:33 am
@BroRando,
Why are you even asking this question? You have your answer firmly in mind well beforehand. You're not looking for an answer or any new information, you just want an opportunity to proselytize you self - righteous bastard. You're so smug and comfortable in your beliefs and your saying "Look at me and how strictly I adhere to the faith, you should be like me". You can stick the whole conversation straight up your ass. This is a discussion forum, if you want to preach get yourself out and peddle your bullshit out on the street where sensible people could have an opportunity to punch you in the nose.
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TomTomBinks
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 09:37 am
@BroRando,
Now it's 65 million years? When did you decide this? Do you have any scientific basis for this figure, or did you just assign a larger value to the Biblical "Day"?
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 10:18 am
@BroRando,
The earth is approximately 4.5 billion years old.

Age of the Earth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth
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The age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years (4.54 × 109 years ± 1%). This dating is based on evidence from radiometric age dating of meteorite material and is consistent with the radiometric ages of the oldest-known terrestrial and lunar samples.
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Leadfoot
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 12:52 pm
@BroRando,
Are you beginning to get an idea of how 'religion' isolates man from even the contemplation of God?
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BroRando
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 02:03 pm
Thank you for your comment. I knew that would draw some controversy. Article entitled: The Bible and Proven Scientific Facts.

1) Scientists estimate that the earth is about 4 billion years old and that the universe was born some 13 to 14 billion years ago.

2)The Bible fixes no duration for the six creative “days.” Instead, it opens the door for modern scientists to study them and assign accurate time spans to them. We know that the creative “days” were much longer than 24-hour days.

3) The Bible describes the earth as suspended “upon nothing.” (Job 26:7) There is no mention of our planet resting on the shoulders of a giant or on the backs of elephants that stand on a turtle, as some popular myths of ancient times had it. Rather, the Bible leaves the door open to scientific discovery. In time, Nicolaus Copernicus and Johannes Kepler described how the planets move around the sun driven by an invisible force. Isaac Newton later showed how gravitation governs the movement of all objects in space.

Notice how this article is in line with scientists and uses the Bible? Edit [Moderator]: Link removed
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 04:48 pm
@BroRando,
Quote:
The Seventh Day: God Rests
1Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts. 2By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.…


How long was the seventh day?
TomTomBinks
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 05:04 pm
@cicerone imposter,
..and aren't we expected to rest on the seventh day in honor of god's work? So should we rest for 2 billion years and work for 12 billion years? No, we're expected to rest for one 24hr. day and work for six. Just like god did. How do you get that creation days are not 24hr. days? or are you just making **** up again to try to jive the Bible with reality?
TomTomBinks
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 05:05 pm
@TomTomBinks,
Sorry Cicerone, I meant to reply to BroRando
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BroRando
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 06:09 pm
Though the earth hangs upon nothing, it's foundations will not be made to totter, for the unchangeable laws governing the universe hold it firmly in place, and God’s purpose toward the earth has remained unchanged. We see patterns that are being duplicated.

Remember, these scriptures exsisted way before science was able to discern them. In most cases, unknowingly. "Do you know the laws governing the heavens, Or can you impose their authority on the earth?" (Job 38:33)

"He has established the earth on its foundations; It will not be moved from its place forever and ever." (Psalms 104:5)
cicerone imposter
 
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Sun 5 Jun, 2016 06:36 pm
@BroRando,
We are moving about one inch per year away from the sun. Nothing to worry about in our life time, but it is moving.
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/about-us/41-our-solar-system/the-earth/orbit/83-is-the-distance-from-the-earth-to-the-sun-changing-advanced
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 6 Jun, 2016 01:09 am
@BroRando,
BroRando wrote:

Thank you. Yes. However the errors found are in man's translation itself leading people away from Jesus Christ.


The errors come from individuals trying to manipulate the unthinking masses.

Quote:
The Census of Quirinius was a census of Judaea taken by Publius Sulpicius Quirinius, Roman governor of Syria, upon the imposition of direct Roman rule in 6 CE. The Jewish historian Josephus portrays the annexation and census as the cause of an uprising which later became identified with the Zealot movement.

The author of the Gospel of Luke uses it as the narrative means by which Jesus was born in Bethlehem (Luke 2:1-5), and places the census within the reign of Herod the Great, who actually died 10 years earlier in 4 BCE. No satisfactory explanation has been put forward which could resolve the contradiction, and most scholars think that Luke has made a mistake.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census_of_Quirinius
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