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McCain is blowing his election chances.

 
 
OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 08:05 am
McGentrix wrote:
McCain has clearly figured that if he emerges victorious in an election that is Obama's to lose, he will have his entire presidency to repair whatever damage is done to his reputation. He has also figured that his current strategy is his only chance of winning. He's probably right on both counts.
Yep. He's probably right on both counts. At his age, this is his last chance, so he may as well leave it all on the playing field. The pity is that he's probably going to lose anyway and some of the damage to his reputation will therefore be permanent. On the other hand; who really cares about the runners up once they're gone anyway?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 10:16 am
McCain's campaign and McCain himself hold completely different opinions on a wide variety of subjects, which is a large part of the problem.

Quote:
Good Help Is Hard To Find

The group of former lobbyists* running the McCain campaign includes a guy who has lobbied extensively for the softening of U.S. sanctions against Cuba -- a stance at odds with McCain's own publicly stated position on the issue.

TPM Election Central reports the details.

*Ed. Note: "Former" only in the sense that they were lobbyists before the campaign and will be again afterwards, unless McCain wins, in which case they may pass through the revolving door into government for a while before resuming their lobbying practices.

--David Kurtz


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/206604.php

Cycloptichorn
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 10:40 am
PRINCETON, NJ -- The race for the presidency has moved back into a statistical tie in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update of national registered voters, with Barack Obama now ahead of John McCain by just one percentage point, 45% to 44%.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109177/Gallup-Daily-Obama-45-McCain-44.aspx

According to this recent poll of registered voters, it appears it is Obama who is blowing whatever chance he had.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 10:42 am
woiyo wrote:
PRINCETON, NJ -- The race for the presidency has moved back into a statistical tie in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update of national registered voters, with Barack Obama now ahead of John McCain by just one percentage point, 45% to 44%.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109177/Gallup-Daily-Obama-45-McCain-44.aspx

According to this recent poll of registered voters, it appears it is Obama who is blowing whatever chance he had.


Laughing

Nah, he isn't. Keep telling yourself that, though, and Obama will still be far ahead in the state polling.

Cycloptichorn
woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 10:55 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
woiyo wrote:
PRINCETON, NJ -- The race for the presidency has moved back into a statistical tie in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update of national registered voters, with Barack Obama now ahead of John McCain by just one percentage point, 45% to 44%.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109177/Gallup-Daily-Obama-45-McCain-44.aspx

According to this recent poll of registered voters, it appears it is Obama who is blowing whatever chance he had.


Laughing

Nah, he isn't. Keep telling yourself that, though, and Obama will still be far ahead in the state polling.

Cycloptichorn



Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 10:58 am
woiyo wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
woiyo wrote:
PRINCETON, NJ -- The race for the presidency has moved back into a statistical tie in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update of national registered voters, with Barack Obama now ahead of John McCain by just one percentage point, 45% to 44%.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109177/Gallup-Daily-Obama-45-McCain-44.aspx

According to this recent poll of registered voters, it appears it is Obama who is blowing whatever chance he had.


Laughing

Nah, he isn't. Keep telling yourself that, though, and Obama will still be far ahead in the state polling.

Cycloptichorn



Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


Do you allege that he is not ahead in the state polling?

Cycloptichorn
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 11:05 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
woiyo wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
woiyo wrote:
PRINCETON, NJ -- The race for the presidency has moved back into a statistical tie in the latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update of national registered voters, with Barack Obama now ahead of John McCain by just one percentage point, 45% to 44%.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109177/Gallup-Daily-Obama-45-McCain-44.aspx

According to this recent poll of registered voters, it appears it is Obama who is blowing whatever chance he had.


Laughing

Nah, he isn't. Keep telling yourself that, though, and Obama will still be far ahead in the state polling.

Cycloptichorn



Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


Do you allege that he is not ahead in the state polling?

Cycloptichorn


I do not give a crap about any poll expect the poll on Nov 4th. These polls are for media and sheep like you.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 11:20 am
I noticed that you didn't hesitate to post a poll that looked better for McCain.

Baaaa, fellow sheep.

Cycloptichorn
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 11:27 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I noticed that you didn't hesitate to post a poll that looked better for McCain.

Baaaa, fellow sheep.

Cycloptichorn


How about that!
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Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 05:41 pm
Fofrget about the poor franchaise in all the final selection/election of the president.

Among the two available residential candidate Obama can enthuse the voters to makes use of their choice while the old; tired rival will go back to his villa.

We the Non-Americans enjoy your funny democracy.
Rama Fuchs
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 08:59 pm
Lash wrote:
I guess most people see Obama and Hillary so close in their views that it does make one wonder how someone could heartily support Hillary and not transfer that support easily to Obama...unless race is a factor.


Yep
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snood
 
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Reply Fri 1 Aug, 2008 09:50 pm
woiyo wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I noticed that you didn't hesitate to post a poll that looked better for McCain.

Baaaa, fellow sheep.

Cycloptichorn


How about that!

Whoa. Great comeback.
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nimh
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 07:17 pm
Quote:
Britney, Paris Air Savage Anti-McCain Ad

One day after Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz) broadcast an anti-Obama ad in which he compared the presumptive Democratic nominee to celebrities Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, the two tabloid mainstays fought back with an eviscerating anti-McCain spot of their own.

While Mses. Spears and Hilton said they had planned to remain on the sidelines during the 2008 presidential campaign, Sen. McCain's negative ad "left us no choice," the notorious party gals said today.

"We don't mind John McCain going after us if he sticks to the facts," Ms. Spears said at a New York press conference. "But we are sick of the distortions about our record."

Ms. Hilton said that the McCain ad appeared to link herself and Ms. Spears to Sen. Obama, leading the casual viewer to conclude that the three of them had "the same energy policy."

"Nothing could be further from the truth," said Ms. Spears. "Both of us strongly favor off-shore drilling to reduce our dependence on foreign oil."

Ms. Hilton said she was also "offended" by the implication that she and Ms. Spears favor a tax on electricity: "We have both been very clear on that issue."

In their anti-McCain spot, the two starlets fight fire with fire, comparing Sen. McCain to the Joker from the smash-hit film "The Dark Knight."

"It's perfectly fair," Ms. Spears said of the ad. "They both have pasty white faces and totally creepy smiles."

Elsewhere, Chinese Olympic officials confiscated the poles of the pole vaulting team to prevent athletes from going over the wall.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 07:20 pm
snood wrote:
woiyo wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I noticed that you didn't hesitate to post a poll that looked better for McCain.

Baaaa, fellow sheep.

Cycloptichorn


How about that!


Whoa. Great comeback.


Snood,

In reading your response, above, I was able to discern how craftily you have intimated that that sheep was black. These constant references to race in your posts are becoming a little tiresome.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 08:47 pm
nimh wrote:
Lash wrote:
I guess most people see Obama and Hillary so close in their views that it does make one wonder how someone could heartily support Hillary and not transfer that support easily to Obama...unless race is a factor.


Yep
Yep. It is both stunning and disappointing how many here are able to deny the seemingly obvious merit in this observation.
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 08:50 pm
JTT wrote:
snood wrote:
woiyo wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I noticed that you didn't hesitate to post a poll that looked better for McCain.

Baaaa, fellow sheep.

Cycloptichorn


How about that!


Whoa. Great comeback.


Snood,

In reading your response, above, I was able to discern how craftily you have intimated that that sheep was black. These constant references to race in your posts are becoming a little tiresome.


Busted. I throw myself on the mercy! I just can't help myself!!!!! I was an abused child!!!!!!
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real life
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 10:26 pm
OCCOM BILL wrote:
nimh wrote:
Lash wrote:
I guess most people see Obama and Hillary so close in their views that it does make one wonder how someone could heartily support Hillary and not transfer that support easily to Obama...unless race is a factor.


Yep
Yep. It is both stunning and disappointing how many here are able to deny the seemingly obvious merit in this observation.


Obama's lack of experience, his tendency to dodge tough decisions, his penchant for associating with racists and terrorists and his insinuations of racism if he is not nominated probably have nothing to do with it.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sat 2 Aug, 2008 11:13 pm
McCain Lies About His Support For MLK Jr. Day in Arizona.

[see video at]

http://progressiveaccountability.org/2008/08/02/mlk/

Quote:


FACT CHECK: McCain Opposed Federal MLK Holiday, Arizona MLK Holiday And Key Legislation Aimed At Equal Opportunity For African Americans


McCain Claim: McCain Defended Opposition Of Federal MLK Holiday By Saying He Supported Arizona's State Holiday. During a press availability in Panama City, Florida, John McCain said, "I have supported hundreds of pieces of legislation, which would help Americans obtain an equal opportunity in America. I am proud of that record, from fighting for the recognition of Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday in my state to sponsoring specific legislation that would prevent discrimination in any shape or form in America today." [McCain Press Availability In Panama City, Florida, 8/1/08]

* FACT: McCain Supported Republican AZ Governor's Decision To Rescind MLK Holiday. ABC News reported, "In Arizona, a bill to recognize a holiday honoring MLK failed in the legislature, so then-Gov. Bruce Babbitt, a Democrat, declared one through executive order. In January 1987, the first act of Arizona's new governor, Republican Evan Mecham, was to rescind the executive order by his predecessor to create an MLK holiday. Arizona's stance became a national controversy. McCain backed the decision at the time." [ABC News, 4/3/08]

* FACT: McCain Supported Gov. Evan Mecham's Decision In 1987 To Rescind Martin Luther King Jr. Day. As reported by the Philadelphia Inquirer, "In a vote likely to haunt him for the rest of his public career, McCain voted against 1983 legislation establishing the third Monday in January as the federal holiday marking King's birthday. Back home in Arizona, he supported Gov. Evan Mecham's decision in 1987 to rescind an executive order creating a state holiday for King, but later reversed his position." [Philadelphia Inquirer, 6/16/08]

http://progressiveaccountability.org/2008/08/02/mlk/

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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 3 Aug, 2008 06:43 am
JTT wrote:
McCain Lies About His Support For MLK Jr. Day in Arizona.

[see video at]

http://progressiveaccountability.org/2008/08/02/mlk/

Quote:


FACT CHECK: McCain Opposed Federal MLK Holiday, Arizona MLK Holiday And Key Legislation Aimed At Equal Opportunity For African Americans


McCain Claim: McCain Defended Opposition Of Federal MLK Holiday By Saying He Supported Arizona's State Holiday. During a press availability in Panama City, Florida, John McCain said, "I have supported hundreds of pieces of legislation, which would help Americans obtain an equal opportunity in America. I am proud of that record, from fighting for the recognition of Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday in my state to sponsoring specific legislation that would prevent discrimination in any shape or form in America today." [McCain Press Availability In Panama City, Florida, 8/1/08]

* FACT: McCain Supported Republican AZ Governor's Decision To Rescind MLK Holiday. ABC News reported, "In Arizona, a bill to recognize a holiday honoring MLK failed in the legislature, so then-Gov. Bruce Babbitt, a Democrat, declared one through executive order. In January 1987, the first act of Arizona's new governor, Republican Evan Mecham, was to rescind the executive order by his predecessor to create an MLK holiday. Arizona's stance became a national controversy. McCain backed the decision at the time." [ABC News, 4/3/08] [..]

http://progressiveaccountability.org/2008/08/02/mlk/



Hmm.

This proves that McCain told only the partial truth, omitting to mention that before he fought for the MLK Holiday in Arizona, he voted against it.

But Progressiveaccountability.org is also only telling the partial truth here, by snipping the bits from the ABC link that explained that, yes, McCain did end up fighting for the holiday.

He was royally late to the cause, but in 1990 he argued for a MLK holiday in a referendum in which his state's voters still ended up rejecting it, the ABC link also explains. You have the paragraph cited above, and then:

Quote:
But eventually he changed his mind.

In 1990, Arizonans were given an opportunity to vote to observe an MLK holiday. McCain successfully appealed to former President Ronald Reagan to support the holiday. In a letter to voters, Reagan wrote that he hoped Arizonans would "join me in supporting a holiday to commemorate these ideals to which Dr. King dedicated his life."

Mecham, for his part, opposed the holiday, saying, "I guess King did a lot for the colored people, but I don't think he deserves a national holiday."

The 1990 referendum failed. [..]

In November 1992, Arizonans voted to re-elect McCain over a challenge from Mecham. They also voted in favor of an MLK holiday.


So a double hhm here. Tsk tsk to McCain for telling only half the truth, and tsk tsk to progressiveaccountability.org for doing exactly the same.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sun 3 Aug, 2008 11:53 am
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