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Obama Exposed As Black

 
 
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Sat 26 Apr, 2008 02:01 am
Good Christ, is snood The Source on issues of race?

Yeah, he's BLACK, but so what?

An intelligent, and opinionated black man contributes to a forum.

Excellent.

Do we defer to him as a spokesperson for his "race?"

Hell no! That would be ridiculous (and racist).

Snood is who is he is.

Personally, I think he is a jackass, but then he probably thinks the same or worse about me. Who cares?

Perhaps he does.

Perhaps he has become accustomed to the role of Black Warrior, and so believes that his personal opinions are somehow more representative of a group to which he belongs than of himself.

We need to restrain our egos and our insecurities within our personal constructs, and screw all this peripheral sh*t.
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nimh
 
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Sat 26 Apr, 2008 02:20 am
That was quite possibly the longest and most mouth-frothing non sequitur of the day.
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snood
 
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Sat 26 Apr, 2008 06:52 am
Laughing
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Brand X
 
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Sat 26 Apr, 2008 08:06 am
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Good Christ, is snood The Source on issues of race?

Yeah, he's BLACK, but so what?

An intelligent, and opinionated black man contributes to a forum.

Excellent.

Do we defer to him as a spokesperson for his "race?"

Hell no! That would be ridiculous (and racist).

Snood is who is he is.

Personally, I think he is a jackass, but then he probably thinks the same or worse about me. Who cares?

Perhaps he does.

Perhaps he has become accustomed to the role of Black Warrior, and so believes that his personal opinions are somehow more representative of a group to which he belongs than of himself.

We need to restrain our egos and our insecurities within our personal constructs, and screw all this peripheral sh*t.


Awesome post!
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nimh
 
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Sat 26 Apr, 2008 03:43 pm
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
We need to restrain our egos

This part is deliciously ironic though...
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Ramafuchs
 
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Sat 26 Apr, 2008 03:58 pm
After persuing the tex of this thread i come to the hasty conclusion and that is this.
The author of this thread is not Hery Miller or Frank HaRRIS OF cHAUCER OR HEMINGWAY:
He is a human like all of US.
Not opiniated nor a paid pathetic party follower.
I respect his views without any ifs and buts
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Fri 2 May, 2008 11:15 pm
nimh wrote:
That was quite possibly the longest and most mouth-frothing non sequitur of the day.


To coin a phrase: BS
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Fri 2 May, 2008 11:19 pm
nimh wrote:
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
We need to restrain our egos

This part is deliciously ironic though...


You don't like to be challenged do you?
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DrewDad
 
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Sat 3 May, 2008 09:11 am
snood wrote:
nimh:

Quote:
Racial prejudice is still very much there. And it's going to be an obstacle for Obama. Maybe it would help if more media would pick up on its role, rather than just look at polling data showing that Obama does badly among whites without college degree, or older whites, or whites in the South and the Appalachians, only to conclude merely that it must be showing how Obama is "elitist". That it must be because he cant bowl.

Endless musings by talking heads about how come Obama fails to truly connect with the white heartland middle classes, and rarely does anyone bring up the elephant in the room. Safer to bring up bowling, or an unfortunate remark he made in the very last state voting so far - never mind that these voting patterns far predate it.


It seems to me a necessary observation that needs revisiting often in a campaign with Barack Obama as a frontrunner, but its funny...

Everytime I make just exactly that observation or one similar, some nimrod invariably accuses me of being somehow gratuitously racial.

Hard to figgur. Not really, but hard to figgur without wanting to throttle someone.

It's the old straw-man fallacy. You say, "some of the opposition to Obama is because of racism" and they want you to have said "people who vote for Clinton are all racists."
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DrewDad
 
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Sat 3 May, 2008 09:12 am
nimh wrote:
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
We need to restrain our egos

This part is deliciously ironic though...

Very Happy
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nimh
 
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Sat 3 May, 2008 04:27 pm
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
You don't like to be challenged do you?

Yeah, that's it Finn. That's it.

<blinks>
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nimh
 
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Mon 12 May, 2008 03:38 pm
This WSJ report that takes up an angle I havent seen covered before. It's honest and (mostly, barring a couple of all too obvious passages) observant.

Quote:
Race on Campus: Beyond Obama, The Unity Stops
After Campaign Rallies, Black, White Students Go Their Separate Ways


Wall Street Journal
May 3, 2008


The article is in the end more about the enduring social segregation between the races, even among those young and highly educated kids whose massive willingness to vote for Obama has been hailed as a sign of a new post-racial generation, than about anything specific to the Obama campaign. Rather, the fact that even Obama's multiracial supporters in the end largely split up by race in their social lives illustrates just how deep-rooted the racial segregation still is. Obama may have a "postracial" appeal that draws very different constituencies to his candidacy, but that doesnt mean that there's necessarily anything postracial yet about those constituencies themselves.

***

On a sidenote, this detail also caught my eye - it's largely off-topic, but the difference in perceptions of what constitutes friendship intrigued me:

Quote:
Following a recent discussion in one of his classes about the campaign, in which most students expressed support for Sen. Obama, Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, a Duke sociologist, asked his white students how many had a black friend on campus. All the white students raised their hands.

He then asked the black students how many of them had a white friend on campus. None of them raised their hands.

The more he probed, Mr. Bonilla-Silva says, the more he realized that the definition of friendship was different. The white students considered a black a "friend" if they played basketball with him or shared a class. "It was more of an acquaintance," recalls Mr. Bonilla-Silva.

Black students, by contrast, defined a friend as someone they would invite to their home for dinner. By that measure, none of the students had friends from the opposite race.
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georgeob1
 
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Mon 12 May, 2008 04:03 pm
Evidently then the remaining "segregation" - if that is the right term for it -is the result of the individual choices of Blacks and Whites, and not of any separation imposed on either group by law or custom. In some respects this can be viewed as simply the natural next phase, following earlier ones in which separation was indeed enforced by law and custom. Meanwhile considerable diffusion continues between the groups.

The vignette from the Duke classroom, at least as you described it, does not establish that none of the White students had Black friends - as the term was generally defined by the Blacks. "it was more of an acquaintance ..." does not constitute no Black friends at all - that potentially interesting information was left out of the story..

The most interesting finding in the story is the different definitions of the term "friend" that were evidently assumed by the Black and White students, respectively. Hard to tell what that might imply, other than that Blacks appeared to be reluctant to acknowledge White friendship, while Whites appeared to reach out to assert it.
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maporsche
 
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Mon 12 May, 2008 04:10 pm
This particular quote is interesting.

Quote:
The black community can be harsh. People will say there are 600 blacks on campus but only two-thirds are 'black' because you can't count blacks who hang out with white people."
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maporsche
 
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Mon 12 May, 2008 04:24 pm
Maybe the title of the thread could be renamed to:

"Blacks exposed as racists; working to continue racial tensions"
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nimh
 
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Wed 14 May, 2008 05:47 pm
http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/6e82b9dd64_obama_05142008.jpg
"[T]he shirt sold by the Mulligan bar that's stirred up protests and national attention."

    "The Curious George cartoon character is getting dragged into the presidential race again in an ugly way [..]. A Georgia tavern owner [..] described as an "ultra-conservative," [..] has been selling T-shirts showing the cartoon monkey happily eating a banana with the words "Obama in '08" written underneath."
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snood
 
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Wed 14 May, 2008 06:44 pm
(grinding teeth)
Oh...I don't see anything at all wrong with that T-shirt.
(clenching jaw muscles)
No, nothing at all - it was probably meant as just lighthearted fun....
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edgarblythe
 
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Wed 14 May, 2008 07:13 pm
snood wrote:
(grinding teeth)
Oh...I don't see anything at all wrong with that T-shirt.
(clenching jaw muscles)
No, nothing at all - it was probably meant as just lighthearted fun....


Sons of bitches.
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snood
 
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Wed 14 May, 2008 07:13 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
snood wrote:
(grinding teeth)
Oh...I don't see anything at all wrong with that T-shirt.
(clenching jaw muscles)
No, nothing at all - it was probably meant as just lighthearted fun....


Sons of bitches.


yuppers
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maporsche
 
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Wed 14 May, 2008 08:29 pm
I don't like the T-Shirt either, but haven't many on this board called ole GWB a monkey or a chimp maybe 789,000 times on THIS board.

GWB = Monkey/Chimp = AOK with democrats
BHO = Monkey = OMFG with democrats


Here's a place to start, a few thousand pictures for you.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=bush+monkey&gbv=2
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