Again, dys, this is the norm for any war.
Then, there's the fact a certain number of troops will be AWOL at any given time. Not all of them are deserters; many are found to have been anything from stupidly irresponsible to blamelessly unfortunate.
Wow!!!!
If this is true it is clearly an indictement of the US Admin. Why hasn't this been brought forth in any newspaper, radio or tv?
Headline: War Could Have Avoided!!!!
This op-ed piece may be kinder to George W. than I'd be. Nonetheless, Kristof hits the high points of the issues and puts them together in a very well-written, well-thought-out opinion article for the NY Times:
Quote:November 5, 2003
Death by Optimism
I remember those Iraqis cheering Saddam. It's rather ironic that this administration thinks that the Iraqi cheers come from the heart, and not from total fear.
I hadn't realized that the Senate didn't have a individual, recorded vote for the $87B appropriation:
Quote:If defeat is an orphan, the U.S. occupation of Iraq, for which the Senate appropriated $87 billion by a voice vote on Monday, should already go down in the loss column.
By rejecting the normal option of a recorded vote, America's senators decided that they did not want to be held individually accountable for our continuing presence in Iraq. That decision speaks far louder than their decision to actually fund our forces there and the Iraqi reconstruction.
Escape by Voice Vote
Yes, I heard a report on that yesterday, PDiddie, and was horrified. We really need to go after them on that one. McCain ducked it too, even when asked. A significant discredit.
Here's something to watch for...
Quote:Government ministers, including Tony Blair, could potentially face international prosecution for war crimes over the conduct of the war in Iraq, the organiser of a legal debate into the conflict, said today.
International law experts will be picking over the government's legal case for going to war in Iraq and the way the occupation is being conducted at an all-day public debate on Saturday.
A panel of eight leading lawyers from the UK, Canada, France and Ireland will debate the question: "Was it legal to go to war?" and are expected to cover topics such as the use of cluster bombs and depleted uranium, the targeting of civilian buildings and the military occupation. The debate at the London School of Economics is open to the public.
Dr Andrew Williams, of Warwick University's law department, who is organising the event, said: "We don't know if war crimes have been committed or if global laws have been violated but there are troublesome aspects that deserve examination and inquiry."
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,9959,1079236,00.html
Blatham -- I've just been reading up on an issue I knew nothing about, and that's the effort of the US to take over Mexico's proud (if doddering) national petroleum industry. Pemex's infrastructure needs rebuilding and there is an effort in Congress to get the Mexican government to agree to privatize Pemex (not only leaving it wide open for takeover but robbing Mexico of a national symbol) in return for help in modernizing it. Tied to this is another carrot: amnesty for Mexicans now living and working in the US. We may not have our priorities in order, but we make sure our quid pro quo's work to our advantage in the guise of foreign "assistance" and generosity. All of this will be presented to American TV viewers as another example of our savvy and decency. The cynicism of all this -- and the lack of respect for the complexity of Mexico's political and economic structure -- just makes me sick.
Tartarin
Tartarin, do you have a site for the article you refer to. I would like to have fbaezer read and comment on it.
BumbleBeeBoogie
BBB -- What I posted was the result of mooching around Google News -- type in Pemex, then sort by date. This isn't new news, but there are updates...
Also, go to NPR's Diane Rehm show. The first hour this morning was devoted to relations with Mexico.
For those who haven't yet seen this, an excerpt:
Quote:Halliburton Contract Extension Cancelled Amid Allegations of Overcharging TaxpayersThe Army Corps of Engineers is "likely" to cancel the no-bid contract extension granted a week ago to Halliburton for delivery of oil-related services amid allegations that Halliburton is overcharging the federal government to import oil into Iraq. The decision to revisit the contract extension comes in part due to the assertions from inside the Pentagon that Halliburton's price for imported gasoline was "at least double what it should be."1
Jeffrey Jones, the Director of the Defense Energy Support Center (DESC), told minority staff of the House Government Reform Committee that it costs the DESC $1.08 to $1.19 to buy and import fuel via truck into Iraq - a price that's less than half the $2.65 Halliburton is charging the US government.2 ....
http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/Read.asp?fn=df11062003.html
Nice one, BBB! I wonder if we checked Emerson in the FEC list of contributors...
BTW -- Did you come across a general article (very recent) in the Albuquerque Journal? Which is the first one which popped up in Google when I was looking? Kind of an overview.
Tartarin wrote:For those who haven't yet seen this, an excerpt:
Quote:Halliburton Contract Extension Cancelled Amid Allegations of Overcharging TaxpayersThe Army Corps of Engineers is "likely" to cancel the no-bid contract extension granted a week ago to Halliburton for delivery of oil-related services amid allegations that Halliburton is overcharging the federal government to import oil into Iraq. The decision to revisit the contract extension comes in part due to the assertions from inside the Pentagon that Halliburton's price for imported gasoline was "at least double what it should be."1
Jeffrey Jones, the Director of the Defense Energy Support Center (DESC), told minority staff of the House Government Reform Committee that it costs the DESC $1.08 to $1.19 to buy and import fuel via truck into Iraq - a price that's less than half the $2.65 Halliburton is charging the US government.2 ....
http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/Read.asp?fn=df11062003.html
Gas goes up that much here in the states when a pipeline busts or similar incident, much less hauling fuel amongst RPG's etc. I'm not defending the Haliburton situation, I just think it's asinine to suggest this is blatant gouging considering the environment in which they are hauling flammable liquids through. The DESC are quoting common freight rates and profit margins, if it were my company I would be charging at least as much they are for the risk.
here are some comments on possibly asking turkish troops to aid in the iraq CONFLICT(it's not a war, is it ?). hbg
http://famulus.msnbc.com/FamulusIntl/reuters11-06-143409.asp?reg=EUROPE#body