The UN, US and Iraq IV

Ain't no Ten-run rule; pile on all the runs ya want when you come to bat. But get to bat, first. Like I said, The Opposition's gotta tighten up both its fielding and its pitching.

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Yep, and the more you talk about having all the answers, the more ya gotta prove when you get to bat.

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No argument with that.

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An attempt to characterize criticism of those in office as "whining" is as interesting as any spin from the White House and as dismaying. We're stuck with those who get elected short of their untimely death, an impeachment, or in the case of California, a recall. We don't have the opportunity to recall Dubya until the next election and providence could easily put him back into office. Especially since the independent voters can swing like a kite in the wind. Of course, there's enough hot air being expelled now to keep the kite afloat.

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Yep, and the more you talk about having all the answers, the more ya gotta prove when you get to bat.

yass, you are surely right on that, however, it was, and is, the sneering neo-cons who continually ooze on about how their way of operating is the only one that is sensible, moral and tax-free. It's not liberal commentators who completely condemn their opposition. Remember us, the liberals? We are the hairsplitters, the compromisers, the situationalists? The conservatives tell us daily that they have the ideas and the plan and the rest of us haven't a clue.

In the most recent election the right in the USA sniffed at the very idea of nation-building, the very idea. Maybe that's why things aren't going so well, they hadn't thought very much about it.
The tax reforms of the most recent Democrat, read that as hikes in the conservative press, were so bad that not a single Republican voted for the plan, nor would they give an iota of credit to the previous President for that plan even though the result was strong economic growth. Their bold idea, proclaimed in the pre-election speechs as the best method for jump-starting a sagging economy, has produced a net deficit of over three million jobs, though it has put a nice bulge in the back pockets of the richest 2% of this nation.

In nearly every sector, education, the environment, you name it, this administration's ideas have turned out to be not so much ideas as things one might say on a radio show turned into laws. I think that the Bushites thought it would be as easy as just repeating the Reagan sigh "There you go again." and the country would be okie-dokie.

Turns out, they said they had all the right answers, and they are hitting nothing but bloopers, pop-ups and thin air.

Joe Nation

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But it's not a game. They're not screwing up a game.

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Game or not, The Current Administration is winning. Not that there isn't a contest, but The Opposition, whether Democrat or Iraqi, has yet to sieze and successfully press an advantage.

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Game or not, The Current Administration is winning. Not that there isn't a contest, but The Opposition, whether Democrat or Iraqi, has yet to sieze and successfully press an advantage.

Have I ever read scarier words? Is this how you see what is happening in the world today?

Winning? What? Timber, I had not realized that you are a Neo-Con. Until this moment.

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boys and girls...you really must read this piece...delicious (courtesy of nimh)
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?pt=3M3%2FDZQsgnokTczsUE11kh%3D%3D

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There is a difference between winning which they did do in Florida and winning in the present tense. If the reaction of Asians and Aussies to the recent tour of this President is any example the present can best be described thus: they are the party in power but they are not winning any hearts nor minds. The Leader of the Communist Chinese got a warmer reception from our closest ally in the area, and Bush was shocked, shocked to find that Indonesian Muslins don't believe his words.

But I forgot this is the administration which believes that it doesn't matter what other countries think of us and our policies. They do believe that, don't they?

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and Bush was shocked, shocked to find that Indonesian Muslins don't believe his words.

Joe, this was the briefing that most endeared me to George W Bush. I really found it most credible.

"Why does the rest of the world not see how kind and good I am, how altruistic, with only the best motives?"

Have his keepers not informed him about the real world? Is he really so wrapped in a bubble? Do his nearest and dearest not tell him what the rest of the world is saying?

I saw him for the first time as I have suspected in the past: he is a stick man. His limbs are moved by Rove, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, et al.

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Kara wrote:

timber wrote:
Game or not, The Current Administration is winning. Not that there isn't a contest, but The Opposition, whether Democrat or Iraqi, has yet to sieze and successfully press an advantage.

Have I ever read scarier words? Is this how you see what is happening in the world today?

Winning? What? Timber, I had not realized that you are a Neo-Con. Until this moment.

And also notice the coupling of the Democrats with the Iraqis.

That's the sort of thing that takes a lot of gall, and a lot of practice.

It's part and parcel of this "with us or against us", all or nothing, no compromise, take no prisoners mentality this new-fangled Republicanism stands for.

God speaks to them, tells them what to do, who to fight and where, that their crusade is a holy one and that they must fight it until all of their foes are vanquished.

They fought this same way when Gingrich came to power in the Congress and when they tried to impeach Clinton; they fought that way most assuredly in Florida in 2000 and in Texas this year when they redistricted.

Compromise is an obscenity with this crowd.

Does that remind you of oh, say, the Taliban, at all? How about the viewpoint of al-Qaeda and how they approach this war from their side?

This is the world they have created and the rest of us have to live in.

And if you like it, and want more of it, then just vote Republican next November.

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Figured that'd stir things up ... didn't think it'd take quite so long though. I figure an awful lot of folks put a lot of stock in labels, perhaps to the detriment of the real issues to be dealt with. I do have to say I see a vast chasm between compromise and capitulation.

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Neither the pitching nor the fielding of The Opposition has been very effective so far. Work on that.

I attribute that lack of success more to the current political climate than to the validity of the 'The Oppositons' arguments. Since Sept 11 the blind patriotism has managed to stifle dissent and kept many obvious anti-war or anti-bush arguments from ever seeing the light of day. To question the retarded policies of the Bush administration is evil and French, the ultimate sin. I can't help but remember the president of MSNBC saying that his organization did not cover anti-war arguments because there wasn't enough qualified dissenters 'to warrent coverage.'

It is easier and more comforting for Americans to sport their new-found patriotism like a 'Lets Roll!' t-shirt than it is to look critically at the situation. I think its sad.

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Baseball metaphors, Timber? In my estimation, the Bush Administration has yet to actually accomplish a home run. They've barely made it to first base and their hitters can't be seen because they hide in the dugout going about all their covert business. As far as Dubya, he's been on the plate for nearly three years and they've mad up new rules. It's now 30 strikes and 40 balls (sic) before you're out or walked.

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Somethings gotta change or intensify, the resistance is getting craftier and craftier over there.

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And meaner -- attacking a Red Cross facility? An American colonel was killed yesterday also. Bush has got to say more than pronouncing all of this evil. He's like Job without any clues.

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CounterPunch

February 13, 2003

Let's Call Bush on His Bogus Terror Threats
The Propaganda of Anxiety
By KURT NIMMO

FEMA and Tom Ridge say I need to be prepared.

This is what they tell me I need to do: rush out to the local hardware store and buy duct tape, plastic sheeting, and batteries for the radio. Next run over to the grocery store and stock up on bottled water and food. FEMA says I should keep some of this stuff separated in a backpack just in case we need to evacuate quickly.

Bush elevated the color-coded terrorism threat level to orange last week in response to the possibility of a chemical or biological attack. Ridge told reporters the other day the terrorism alert issued last week is "the most significant" since 911. "The threat is real," he warned.

Yeah, right.

I'm not rushing out to the store. I'm not buying into Bush's propaganda war. I don't think al-Qaeda is capable of launching a chemical or biological assault of any measurable significance against America. In fact, I don't think al-Qaeda is anywhere near as organized and ominous as Bush and Ridge and the corporate media keep telling us it is. It's nothing more than a terrifying and mostly imaginary monster used to frighten the people into acquiescence.

Are there pissed off Muslims who'd kill Americans if given half the chance?

You bet.

There's also pissed of Israelis who'd kill Palestinians, pissed off Hindus who'd kill Muslims, and pissed off drivers who'd run you down for making a lane change. I'm more worried about this last category than I am about anything Osama bin Laden may or (more likely) may not do. I'm more worried about some nut with a gun freaking out while I'm shopping for my plastic sheeting and duct tape than I am about becoming a "soft" target for al-Qaeda. I'm more worried about Tom Ridge and the Ministry of Homeland Security, John Ashcroft and the Justice Department, and what FEMA may have in mind for me and others who not only think these so-called terrorists alerts are pure and unadulterated bullshit, but who also think Bush is an illegitimate poseur and the invasion of Iraq will be an immense crime perpetuated against humanity.

The rest of the article

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Iraq is truly now a hot bed of terrorism. I guess, if nothing else, we could say Bush finally did some prophesying Exclamation

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Not prophesysing, BillW. He was the cause of it.

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