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Hillary Clinton for President - 2008

 
 
nimh
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 07:33 am
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In the Clinton Bunker


http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/HRCNY.jpg


How fitting that, on the night Barack Obama finally claimed the Democratic nomination, Hillary Clinton delivered her non-concession speech from a concrete bunker. To reach the Baruch College gymnasium where Hillary spoke with such surprising defiance her supporters had to descend two flights below street level. The thick subterranean walls blocked out cell phone and BlackBerry signals, and no televisions were provided in the main event hall, thereby insulating Hillary's cheering supporters (intentionally, some theorized) from the dispiriting events unfolding at the Xcel Center in Minneapolis.

In the bunker there exists a different reality. In the bunker, Hillary is the winner: of the popular vote, of a series of big swing states, of the authentic American vote. In the bunker, Hillary is introduced by the indefatiguable Terry McAuliffe as "the next President of the United States!" When asked about the reality outside the bunker?-that Obama supporters were in a minor rage over Hillary's speech-- McAuliffe looked at me incredulously. "Tonight was Hillary's night!" he exclaimed. "We won tonight! We won in South Dakota! We keep winning!"

And so Hillary is embarking on yet another listening tour. She is asking her determined followers?-like the one here wearing a "REAL MEN vote Hillary" pin?-what she should do next. The kabuki listening tour is a hoary old Clinton device. When Bill Clinton ran for re-election as governor in 1990, he promised Arkansans not to run for president before his term had ended. Two years later, he was touring the state, asking for their "permission" to break his pledge. As luck would have it, Bill got the answer he was looking for.

And so will Hillary. Attending an event like tonight's helps to explain how Hillary carries on in the face of it all. She spends her days surrounded by people who believe in her passionately--who "grab my hand or grip my arm, to look me in my eyes and tell me, don't quit, keep fighting," as she put it in a campaign email tonight--and all the moreso the more hopeless her cause seems. These people will undoubtedly tell her to carry on. That much was clear from the chant of "Denver! Denver!" which came up tonight, and which drew no strong rebuke.

But in reality, it's hard to imagine Hillary taking her claim to the nomination all the way to the convention. She may feel defiant, and perhaps is even ?'getting back' at Obama, in some sense, for perceived slights against her. (This week Bill Clinton said he believes Obama "gets other people to slime her." And one Clintonite tonight ruefully recalled for me the way Obama smothered her May 13 West Virginia victory by rolling out his endorsement from John Edwards, and also the general-election oriented "victory lap" he took in Iowa after her win in Kentucky a week later.) Or she may be trying to exercise leverage for some hidden goal, like the settling of her campaign debt. Most likely, after 16 years as a party leader, she feels entitled to relinquish the stage on her own terms, at a time of her own choosing.

Who knows when that time will come. In the press filing center tonight the weary hacks, bathed in a grim fluorescent glare, gathered round a pair of giant TV screens and watched as Obama declared himself the Democratic nominee. After that historical moment, I strolled back into the hall where Hillary had just spoken. She and Bill were still there, working the crowd, with perhaps a couple hundred committed supporters jostling to shake their hands, give them gifts, urge her not to quit. Over the PA system blared a song with the refrain, "this is our country, this is our country." Down in the bunker, it always will be.

--Michael Crowley
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 07:34 am
Read also: She doesn't accept
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 07:37 am
Michael Crowley wrote:
McAuliffe looked at me incredulously. "Tonight was Hillary's night!"


Fun moment last night on CNN... Gloria [Forgetherlastname] looked at her computer and said that she'd gotten an email about how tonight was Hillary's night, and Jeffrey Toobin broke in with a genuinely baffled "What...?" He said something about "deranged narcissism" a bit after that.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 07:44 am
BBB
I was disappointed that Senator Clinton did not officially acknowledge Senator Obama's delegate victory in her speech last night. I know how painful it must be for her to concede, but we need to unite the Democratic party.

BBB
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 07:49 am
Yep, I agree, BBB.

Hopefully the official concession will come soon.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 08:36 am
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Hillary's options

There's a widening gap between what most observers and the Democratic Party leadership sees ?- a race that's over ?- and what Hillary seems to see.

Clinton reiterated her speech in an e-mail to supporters, offering passing praise for Obama, thanking supporters, but leaving her options more open than they appear actually to be.

    I want to congratulate Sen. Obama and his supporters on the extraordinary race that they have run. Sen. Obama has inspired so many Americans to care about politics and empowered so many more to get involved, and our party and our democracy are stronger and more vibrant as a result. Whatever path I travel next, I promise I will keep faith with you and everyone I have met across this good and great country. There is no possible way to thank you enough for everything you have done throughout this primary season, and you will always be in my heart.
ALSO: Her home page, to which she directed supporters, asks supporters to send Hillary a "message of support"and to "stand with Hillary" ?- words of confrontation, not concession.

http://images.politico.com/global/standwithhil.jpg
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 08:40 am
sozobe wrote:
Michael Crowley wrote:
McAuliffe looked at me incredulously. "Tonight was Hillary's night!"


Fun moment last night on CNN... Gloria [Forgetherlastname] looked at her computer and said that she'd gotten an email about how tonight was Hillary's night, and Jeffrey Toobin broke in with a genuinely baffled "What...?" He said something about "deranged narcissism" a bit after that.
That was funny. "Tell us how you really feel."
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 08:42 am
I have this idea for a cartoon that shows Hillary as a torpedo heading for the great ship S.S. Obama.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 08:44 am
nimh wrote:
ALSO: Her home page, to which she directed supporters, asks supporters to send Hillary a "message of support"and to "stand with Hillary" ?- words of confrontation, not concession.

http://images.politico.com/global/standwithhil.jpg
I'd say that makes it official. The woman is a scumbag. This is a vividly clear demonstration that she doesn't care how much she damages the party or it's chances in 2008. They should boot her off the team.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 08:46 am
I went ahead and sent an email to Hillary by the way. Basically it said that I cast my first vote in a presidential election for Bill, and that I was so happy with her role as first lady, how she broke the mold and did so many good things. And then moved into, it's time for her to end this graciously; that I and many other people have liked her in the past and would prefer to like her now, but she's making it awfully difficult.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 08:46 am
Ba ba ba ba ba, I'm lovin' it.
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Gargamel
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 08:48 am
cjhsa wrote:
I have this idea for a cartoon that shows Hillary as a torpedo heading for the great ship S.S. Obama.


Oh, so that's why you're not a cartoonist.

I always wondered.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 08:48 am
I'm kinda-sorta happy she's doing all of this, and making it more obvious that Obama can't/ shouldn't choose her as VP. That's my single biggest worry at this point.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 08:49 am
Gargamel wrote:
Oh, so that's why you're not a cartoonist.

I always wondered.


Laughing
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 08:53 am
Keep an eye out on the newspapers. I bet one shows up in the next few days.
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 08:54 am
sozobe wrote:
I'm kinda-sorta happy she's doing all of this, and making it more obvious that Obama can't/ shouldn't choose her as VP. That's my single biggest worry at this point.


Now that's a 'cup is half-full' mentality, if I ever saw one. You're better than me, Gunga Din.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 08:56 am
sozobe wrote:
Gargamel wrote:
Oh, so that's why you're not a cartoonist.

I always wondered.


Laughing


I call that smiley and raise it...a lot.


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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 08:58 am
dlowan, you really don't get the inside joke on A2K do ya?

Nothing new there.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 09:00 am
cjhsa wrote:
dlowan, you really don't get the inside joke on A2K do ya?

Nothing new there.




yeah I do......I'M a cartoonist.
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djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jun, 2008 09:00 am
cjhsa wrote:
dlowan, you really don't get the inside joke on A2K do ya?

Nothing new there.


none of us get you
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