Hillary Clinton for President - 2008

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

sozobe wrote:

A gracious end to a hard-fought campaign. I wish she had been the candidate she was today more often... but it was a very good end and deserving of high praise.

Are you willing to clone yourself?

A sozobe world would, for me, be a bit boring, but it would be a heck of a lot nicer.

Finn,

That might be the nicest thing you've ever said... I'm feeling it.

The Observer, 08.06.08, page 22

Dear Walter,

While this cartoon is funny to at least half the Democratic voters, it's offensive to the other half. I think we should all follow Obama's lead and leave the politics of division behind us and look with hope and respect to a brighter more tolerant tomorrow.

The Observer, 08.06.08, page 22

Obama's on the Harlem Globetrotters?

Lola wrote:

Dear Walter,

While this cartoon is funny to at least half the Democratic voters, it's offensive to the other half. I think we should all follow Obama's lead and leave the politics of division behind us and look with hope and respect to a brighter more tolerant tomorrow.

Dear Lola,

You queasy types really should not be paying attention to politics, or any power games for that matter, until and unless your constitution becomes strong enough to deal with the sausage factory named Democracy.

Ticomaya wrote:

Obama's on the Harlem Globetrotters?

Isn't that saying that Obama is not the real deal, that he is about the show?? That's offensive...I object to this CARTOON *insert sarcasm*

Not "queasy" just not masochistic enough to put up with the likes of you.

hawkeye10 wrote:

Lola wrote:

Dear Walter,

While this cartoon is funny to at least half the Democratic voters, it's offensive to the other half. I think we should all follow Obama's lead and leave the politics of division behind us and look with hope and respect to a brighter more tolerant tomorrow.

Dear Lola,

You queasy types really should not be paying attention to politics, or any power games for that matter, until and unless your constitution becomes strong enough to deal with the sausage factory named Democracy.

Not "queasy" just not masochistic enough to put up with the likes of you.

Lola wrote:

hawkeye10 wrote:

Lola wrote:

Dear Walter,

While this cartoon is funny to at least half the Democratic voters, it's offensive to the other half. I think we should all follow Obama's lead and leave the politics of division behind us and look with hope and respect to a brighter more tolerant tomorrow.

Dear Lola,

You queasy types really should not be paying attention to politics, or any power games for that matter, until and unless your constitution becomes strong enough to deal with the sausage factory named Democracy.

Not "queasy" just not masochistic enough to put up with the likes of you.

Wise thoughts since you're conversing with A2K's newest, most overtly misogynistic A-hole.

Hillary's final curtain

Now that Clinton's campaign is over, I want to remember her as she's truly been -- a pain in the ass, sometimes ill-behaved, and a woman who changed history.

By Rebecca Traister

Clinton's campaign is not yet cold (and, I suspect, will probably maintain a reptilian pulse in the months between now and Denver), but the urge to eulogize its place in women's history is powerful. Already there is the beating of breasts and rending of garments from the true-believer Hillary feminists, a wailing wall of second-wave sorrow and swooning celebration of the doors opened to their daughters and granddaughters. (Just think, little Sally Ann, some day you too can live out your life's ambition and be painted an emasculating succubus by a press corps that clings almost erotically to the fantasy of your eventual defeat! Yea!) Now that she no longer poses a threat, there are tributes streaming in from feminist pundits who backed Obama and are now comfortable enough to gingerly pat Clinton on the back and extend some tepid "You go girl" plaudits from a distance safe enough to protect them from her Old White Lady cooties. Then there are those critics sticking to their guns, reminding us that Clinton's loss is no one's fault but her own, that she may have been a lady, but she was no feminist heroine. Maybe if she hadn't voted for the war; maybe if she hadn't been married to Bill; maybe if she hadn't played the gender card; maybe if she'd been more of a feminist icon. Then, maybe, these people could have gotten excited about her as a presidential candidate.

But while we may all wish that our groundbreaking leaders came in prettier packages, and that high butterfat cheese was good for us, the reality is that we get what we get. And we got Hillary Clinton. In no small part, we probably got her thanks to the very reasons so many can't abide her: her ambition, her ruthlessness, her gift for triangulation, her marriage, her centrism, her hawkishness. It's an exceedingly uncommon alchemy; in more than two centuries of American history, no woman has been able to break into the presidential boys club, and I can't think of many women of sterling liberal character who would have succeeded where she failed to satisfy all feminists. Wake me when Barbara Ehrenreich can win Ohio, you know?

Like it or not, Hillary Rodham Clinton was the first female battering ram to rattle the Oval Office door, and while sorrowful Hillary-heads may lyrically and lovingly catalog her many achievements, her bravery and grace, I'd prefer to think of her as she actually has been: a pain in the ass to support, an often inept and ungainly campaigner. She was ill-behaved, she made mistakes, and waged an often dirty and tone-deaf campaign, performing precious few electoral pirouettes. But she also pulverized any quaint notions of what presidential races are supposed to look like and how girls might compete in them.

Hillary Clinton did everything she needed to do in Saturday's Barack Obama endorsement in Washington. The highlight had to be when she said: "Today I am standing with Senator Obama to say: Yes we can!"

After the speech, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann immediately suggested she'd talked too much about herself and her historic run - sigh -- but Tim Russert had the grace to say she "executed perfectly."

I'm not sure what more Olbermann or anyone could ask Clinton to say about Obama beyond what she did: "I endorse him and throw my full support behind him, and I ask all of you to join me in working as hard for Barack Obama as you have for me. I have served in the Senate with him for four years. I've had a front row seat to his candidacy." She talked about "his strength and determination, his grace and his grit." She promised that Democrats could bring back "peace, prosperity and progress ... by ensuring that Barack Obama walks through the doors of the Oval Office Jan. 20, 2009."

Can anyone really begrudge Clinton's graceful nod to the sexism she faced? She noticed that when she was asked on the campaign trail about gender, she often said, "I was proud to be running as a woman, but I was running because I thought I'd be the best president. But I am a woman, and like millions of women, I know there are still barriers and biases out there, often unconscious ... Although we weren't able to shatter the highest and hardest glass ceiling, it's got about 18 million cracks in it and the light is shining through like never before."

But she had some advice for those still second-guessing the campaign, its missteps or her mistreatment: "Don't go there. Every moment wasted looking back keeps us from looking forward. Life is too short ... I'm going to work my heart out to make sure Senator Obama is the next president ... We will make history together."

Will it be enough to win still-smarting Clinton supporters over to Obama's side? I find it hard to imagine any devoted Clinton supporter who would be unmoved by her appeal Saturday, but time will tell.

I am so sick of you a2K women who can't hold a reasonable debate of facts and ideas so you jump into personal attack instead as diversion. Please either support your beliefs or admit that you can't.

I came across Hilary's speech on C-SPAN while looking for the weather channel.
Listened to her for about a minute - what an egotistic, self centered bitch.