Hillary Clinton for President - 2008

cjhsa wrote:

dlowan, you really don't get the inside joke on A2K do ya?

Nothing new there.

none of us get you

ebrown_p wrote:

oralloy wrote:

nimh wrote:

oralloy wrote:

I am quite willing to vote a straight Republican ticket in general elections for the rest of my life if the Democrats disenfranchise me.

I dont think there's all that much chance of you doing anything else for the foreseeable future either which way.

I've only voted a straight Republican ticket once in my life so far.

I usually vote for some Republicans each time, but not a straight ticket.

I am curious. Who is the last Democrat you voted for?

((I am curious if "not-Republican" means Constitution party or worse))

Jennifer Granholm, 2002.

WTF did you do that for?

I was in Oakland when she celebrated her victory. She was at the RenCen in Detroit, not in Lansing, where she works and lived. I was livid - my hosts couldn't understand my outrage. Detroit is just the shiznit, if you're a Democrat pandering to entitlement votes.

WTF did you do that for?

I was in Oakland when she celebrated her victory. She was at the RenCen in Detroit, not in Lansing, where she works and lived. I was livid - my hosts couldn't understand my outrage. Detroit is just the shiznit, if you're a Democrat pandering to entitlement votes.

Hilary Rosen: I Am Not a Bargaining Chip, I Am a Democrat

Senator Clinton's speech last night was a justifiably proud recitation of her accomplishments over the course of this campaign, but it did not end right. She didn't do what she should have done. As hard and as painful as it might have been, she should have conceded, congratulated, endorsed and committed to Barack Obama. Therefore the next 48 hours are now as important to the future reputation of Hillary Clinton as the last year and a half have been.

I am disappointed. As a long time Hillary Clinton supporter and more importantly, an admirer, I am sad that this historic effort has ended with such a narrow loss for her. There will be the appropriate "if onlys" for a long time to come. If only the staff shakeup happened earlier; if only the planning in caucus states had more focus; if only Hillary had let loose with the authentic human and connecting voice she found in the last three months of the campaign. If only. If only. I have written many times on this site about the talents of Hillary Clinton and why I thought she'd make a great President. [..]

So, I am also so very disappointed at how she has handled this last week. I know she is exhausted and she had pledged to finish the primaries and let every state vote before any final action. But by the time she got on that podium last night, she knew it was over and that she had lost. I am sure I was not alone in privately urging the campaign over the last two weeks to use the moment to take her due, pass the torch and cement her grace. She had an opportunity to soar and unite. She had a chance to surprise her party and the nation after the day-long denials about expecting any concession and send Obama off on the campaign trail of the general election with the best possible platform. I wrote before how she had a chance for her "Al Gore moment." And if she had done so, the whole country ALL would be talking today about how great she is and give her her due.

Instead she left her supporters empty, Obama's angry, and party leaders trashing her. She said she was stepping back to think about her options. She is waiting to figure out how she would "use" her 18 million voters.

But not my vote. I will enthusiastically support Barack Obama's campaign. Because I am not a bargaining chip. I am a Democrat.

Charlie Rangel, a very close supporter, said on MSNBC that he is mystified as to why Hillary is still in the race. He hinted that he might nudge her to make the right decision when they talk later today.

She is just a distraction at this point. Terry McCauliiffe introduced her last night as "the next president of the United States." This is becoming surreal.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - New York Sen. Hillary Clinton plans to drop out of the presidential race on Friday and cede the Democratic nomination to Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, U.S. media reported on Wednesday.
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Obama secured the Democratic presidential nomination on Tuesday night after a long, hard-fought primary battle with Clinton for the right to face Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona in the November 4 general election.

ABC reported that Clinton would hold an event on Friday flanked by supporters "in which we believe, all indications are she will concede the race, once and for all."

I'd really really really like her to take this opportunity to put Bill out on the curb. Whatever she does next will be better without him. That'd be my free advice - if she's interested in any kind of political future.

ehBeth wrote:

I'd really really really like her to take this opportunity to put Bill out on the curb. Whatever she does next will be better without him. That'd be my free advice - if she's interested in any kind of political future.

Totally agree.

I might have had a more difficult time choosing between Barack and Hilary if that had already been in her history. She made it a lot easier. There was no way in heck I was voting for her if that meant also putting Bill back inside the White House.

It is also why she will not be offered the VP slot without both of them first being thoroughly vetted.

Yes, I for one can say that my view of Bill Clinton changed a lot after his fumbling indiscretions and inability to control his own lust even when it could have cost him his office.

But where is the admission from you and others that they've seen the light about Bush's follies?

That high and mighty tone you're taking is very incongruous, when one considers that you and many others still can't see the disaster of a presidency that Bush has been.

I'd really really really like her to take this opportunity to put Bill out on the curb. Whatever she does next will be better without him. That'd be my free advice - if she's interested in any kind of political future.