Have you ever broke up with a guy and he cried?

I don't think a man is weak if he cries, and I don't know any women who think so either.

I've never had a conversation with a woman who had disdain in her voice over a man crying.

I think that just must be what some men think women think.


Jesus, I thought we were past all that crap.

...the original post was in relation to guys crying when a girl breaks up with them.

One last note...regarding what any two people in a relationship discuss and cry and laugh over privately.....no one knows what goes on behind closed doors.

What in the world makes you think I'm talking about "different circumstances" than a man is?

If something makes a man cry, it makes him cry.

Period, end of subject.

I don't think a man is weak if he cries, and I don't know any women who think so either.

I've never had a conversation with a woman who had disdain in her voice over a man crying.

I think that just must be what some men think women think.

Jesus, I thought we were past all that crap.

Chai wrote:

One last note...regarding what any two people in a relationship discuss and cry and laugh over privately.....no one knows what goes on behind closed doors.

In theory perhaps but in practice I am not convinced that the type of privacy you suggest is not often enough breached for various reasons, not the least of which is the communications between good friends and other trusted individuals.

Then there are the unwashed mases that wear their heart on their sleeve.

dlowan wrote:

Whether a man cries easily or doesn't has very little to do with my assessment of his strength or attractiveness...except that, given our frequently noxious prescriptions for what men and women should be, I have a lot of respect for a man who is strong enough to express sadness, or joy, or being deeply moved, through tears. He's had the guts to stand up to a lot of traditional bullshit.

but are you in the mainstream? There is to my eye a lot of evidence that while women have long claimed that they want a new aged sensitive male who can cry for them, in practice this is rarely the case. women believe this is what they want until they are actually confronted with it, and then they are repulsed. think this is also shown by how little success the sensitive male has in getting the best women. For over decade i believed the line that women want the new age man, I see no evidence of this in the majority of men and women that I know. I now am firmly convinced that it is a myth, that men who don't ignore it are screwed.

This is not a "male I want" thing...it is a PERSON I want thing. And I think men who want cutesy, weak little women are daft, as well as women who want men who can't be vulnerable are.

As I said, that has nothing to do with weakness.

vikor...my comment was obviously inclusive, including the subject of the thread.

If a bloke cries I would assume it is for himself, and if a fella cried "for me" I'd think him as daft as a woman who "cried for me", or a woman who "cried for" a man.

The genuinely strong AND sensitive men I know do damned well, thank you very much. Being sensitive and expressive is human. I want a human for a mate, not some idiot who is too scared to show his feelings.

I keep seeing this "nice guys finish last" crap all over here, and it's like a fungus, too ubiquitous to be bothered arguing over...but now I'm arguing!

A man shows confidence and strength when he allows others to see his emotional side of him, and crying is one of it.

The men who object, are usually the insecure ones who have problems with their own masculinity, otherwise a tear or two wouldn't bother them as much.

Good luck to you.

ossobuco wrote:

Good luck to you.

I said that sarcastically, but not entirely so. I really do wish you good luck with your dichotomy tools and not too bad of a landing in the in the more complex world.

I now don't care what the women in my life say for the most part, what they actually do is what matters.

Hawkeye, I'm not without a lot of sympathy. You have met the f.king wrong people, in my opinion.

It came as a hard lesson to me that nice guys finish last, that emotional guys finish next to last. I am morally offended by this status of affairs but i have to live.