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NYPD Finds "Gigantic" Weapons Cache - Arrests Lawful Owner

 
 
dagmaraka
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 09:49 pm
cjhsa wrote:
Did you read (carefully) what I originally posted and do you know what propoganda is?

All it said was that he was arrested on "criminal weapons charges" yet all the stuff sppears to be legal - gun show/surplus crap.
People who think like you will be the death of all of us.


i think you have not read the news sources carefully. all the stuff did NOT appear to be legal, plus he was a felon which makes ownership of weapons illegal (whether you like it or not), plus he had, also illegaly, armed assault weapon on the backseat while driving in Manhattan.

All of this information was posted on this very thread many times....so you either read selectively, or don't read at all.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 09:54 pm
snood wrote:
But wouldn't it just make sense,
if you and cjsha are going to be using this man's situation as a rallying point
for your "cause", that you would at least minimally ensure that he was on the right side of the law?

I don 't oppose the laws against larcency.
I do not challenge their legitimacy.


My only point is that government has no jurisdiction to control guns,
because that authority was withheld from government,
as a condition of government 's existence.

If any property is stolen ( including guns, the same as anything else )
it shud be removed from the possession of the thief,
he shud be criminally prosecuted, and the property shud be restored
to the possession of its rightful owner.
David
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 10:21 pm
But you agree there are times when a government can control guns.
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 11:01 pm
I do, Ticomaya. I speak only for myself.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 11:03 pm
I've never doubted your rationality, rog.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 11:06 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
But you agree there are times when a government can control guns.

In your scenario,
government controlled a ROBBER.
It disarmed him, as an act of self preservation,
incidental to his arrest.

If u wanna deem that control of a gun,
because police had it in their possession: OK.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 11:17 pm
Isn't that what the news article was about .... police taking control of other people's guns by taking them from them and keeping in the possession of the police?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 11:26 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
Isn't that what the news article was about ....
police taking control of other people's guns by taking them from them
and keeping in the possession of the police?

I 'm not certain that I understood this case accurately.
I was under the impression
that he was arrested simply for being well armed.

If he was arrested for possession of stolen property,
or for larceny, then I have no objection.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 8 Jan, 2008 11:33 pm
Previous button, good thing, Dave....
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 06:46 am
dagmaraka wrote:
also illegaly, armed assault weapon on the backseat while driving in Manhattan.


How does that differ from going into a bar in Manhattan and ordering a beer?
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 06:53 am
it's illegal, cjhsa. that's how.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 06:55 am
So should be charging $8 for a Bud Light.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 06:58 am
but is not. and this is. like it or not.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 07:00 am
You've already stated that you'd like to make all gun owners criminals in order to marginalize them. You've also said you're not a citizen. So, give it up.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 07:07 am
wtf? i have never said anything like of the sort. even you can do better than this. and what on earth does my citizenship have to do with this other than it being another cheap shot by you (now repeatedly)?

in this particular NYPD case, you were wrong, that is all. and you keep returning to making the false point that the police arrested a legal owner of weapons (even after it was shown many times on this thread that the guy broke the law on multiple counts). all i do is refute that false statement ofyours. if you can't take it, that is your problem.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 08:46 am
Rockhead wrote:
Dave, that would be rude.

he is suggesting you have trouble seeing the forest cuz of the trees, I think....


You are very astute.
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Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 08:52 am
and yet completely unable to slow this runaway freight train down....

as - tute: what happens without bean-0.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 08:54 am
...well, sometimes the light you see at the end of the tunnel is the train coming towards you.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 09:06 am
I bet he gets off. NYPD is hiding something behind the "gigantic cache".
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 9 Jan, 2008 08:29 pm
cjhsa wrote:
I have three deer rifles.
Three shotguns.
Two .22 rifles.
Two airguns.
Two pistols
Two compound bows and four or five recurves.
Lots and lots of ammo.

BFD. It's all legal. It's in fact a small amount considering three people in my family use them to hunt and that some of this stuff belonged to my grandfather. Get real.

No revolvers ?
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