Softener resin escaping

msolga wrote:

I have seen so many threads here on water softeners. It's a mystery to me. Perhaps my water is "hard" by your standards, who knows? ... but I honestly don't get all this concern about the need to soften water. I must read up on why it's such a big issue in the US!

ha ha ha ha

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Mame wrote:

msolga wrote:
I have seen so many threads here on water softeners. It's a mystery to me. Perhaps my water is "hard" by your standards, who knows? ... but I honestly don't get all this concern about the need to soften water. I must read up on why it's such a big issue in the US!

ha ha ha ha

This may explain:

The benefits of softened water, in quality of life and savings, can be felt throughout your home.
Even people with only slightly hard water will notice a difference when they start using soft water.

* Water heating efficiencies may be increased by up to 29% with gas and 22% with electricity.
* Pipes don't clog due to mineral buildup increasing the plumbing systems life and performance.
* Soaps and detergents lather better and work more efficiently.
* Many appliances last longer, perform better and stay clean longer.
* Soap residue on clothes is reduced. Clothes look better and last longer.
* Soap scum and hard water spots are reduced - less time cleaning.
* Skin and hair rinse better for a cleaner look and feel. What a relief for dry itchy skin!

EcoWater Softeners and Softeners with metered Fleck 2510SE valves are best.

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Please refer to my own thread on water softening...

Laughing

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msolga wrote:

Thanks for explaining, Zozzie.
Obviously I have never experienced really hard water!

After my water softener crapped out recently I had my first shower and shave with hard water in 28 years. What an awful experience! The washcloth almost sticks to the skin relative to the gliding feeling with soft water. Then when having a shave afterwards I couldn't get my shaving brush to produce a lather on my face. It was as though I was using no shaving cream. I think I'll go dirty until my new softener is up & running Laughing

Note to Gary: That last remark was in jest! Note the smiley face?! Laughing

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd298/Zozzie1/smilielol5.gif

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Zozzie wrote:

Note to Gary: That last remark was in jest! Note the smiley face?!

Now that's funny - I don't care who you are.

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I'd like to congratulate Zozzie on doing such an excellent job on navigating the waters of the softener experts!

Well done!

And with style and humor to boot!

You are a rare gem.

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caribou wrote:

I'd like to congratulate Zozzie on doing such an excellent job on navigating the waters of the softener experts!

Well the subject of water softening did need lightening up a bit didn't it? Next we need to work on some of the experts. Maybe that resin has certain negative properties

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And with style and humor to boot!

There wasn't much style & humor when Momma Z and I were slugging the old softener up the basement stairs this afternoon. Ya think maybe I should have emptied the 80kg of salt out of it first? Very Happy

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Zozzie wrote:

Maybe that resin has certain negative properties

Anion resin does have a negative charge :wink:

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I went to that link and read every word of their instructions for both the 7000 and 2510 softeners.

There is A LOT they don't get into and more than a few errors! Frankly I have a hard time believing they are so limited! I'll have to check other web sites' instructions. I've done mine so the least mechanical kinda guy (or plumber and woman too) should have no questions at all. About any part of the process. Including specific programming based on their water quality, SFR requirement and family size including the ages of the children if any.

WOW! and they have this HUGE expensive "professional" looking web site... thinking from a customer's point of view..., the errors bother me. I wonder if those guys ever installed a softener.

http://www.ohiopurewaterco.com/shop/files/7000%20Complete.pdf

For others reading this.... I send a text file (7 single sided pages) of very in depth detailed assembly, set up, programming and installation instructions, 17 pictures of various parts and two pdf files (5-6 pages) from the master dealer manual for the control valve with all my softeners and filters. The instructions etc. have evolved over the last 5 years by my editing them on the phone with any customer that had questions, criticisms or suggestions.

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Ok you experts. My softener is plumbed, installed, running, regenerated (a test without salt) and all is 100% ok except for a leak. The clear brine line plugs into the L fitting at the top of that tower thingy in the brine tank. On installation I couldn't really figure out how it plugged in so I just pushed the clear tube into the hole. I don't see what that red clip does.

Anyway, at the end of the regeneration, the brine tank is re-filled and water was spraying out of the connection where the tub goes into the L.

After it finished I tried pulling the tube out but it won't budge. Finally I snipped the tube off (there's lots to spare) and the float valve with the stoopid tube attached is here in my office.

I'll have coffee while Gary & H20 argue about how best to separate tube and L and re-connect so it won't leak no mo'.

Here's the little bugger -

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This LINK may help.

The red thing is a Collet clip.

HTH ~

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H2O_MAN wrote:

This LINK may help.
The red thing is a Collet clip.
HTH ~

John Guest fittings !! Who'd a thunk it? Five second job (after reading the webpage!) - remove clip, push IN the collett (ahaaaa!), pull out pipe.

Done!!

Many thanks Gary. That site is saved to Favorites. I owe ya one mate.

Maybe I didn't have the pipe pushed all the way up to the o-ring. The end of the pipe was cut square.

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Zozzie wrote:

Many thanks Gary. That site is saved to Favorites. I owe ya one mate.

Your welcome, but who's Gary?

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Ok here's my new softener. She's all up & running and will be fine after I get this brine pipe leak fixed (thanks to mahh buddy H2OMan!). Eat your hearts out at those beautifully soldered joints folks. I luv this kinda work.

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H2O_MAN wrote:

Zozzie wrote:

Many thanks Gary. That site is saved to Favorites. I owe ya one mate.

Your welcome, but who's Gary?

Oh my head's spinning and I got you two mixed up. Arrgghh! I can't go back and edit. The real Gary will be pi$$in himself laughing at that one

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Zozzie wrote:

H2O_MAN wrote:
Zozzie wrote:

Many thanks Gary. That site is saved to Favorites. I owe ya one mate.

Your welcome, but who's Gary?

Oh my head's spinning and I got you two mixed up. Arrgghh! I can't go back and edit. The real Gary will be pi$$in himself laughing at that one

No problem mate.

Nice installation!

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One final question (well for now anyway). I've just got one part left over from my Clack install (not bad eh?) and it's this small rubber washer with a small hole in it. I think it might go inside the backwash outlet elbow. What's it's purpose also?

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That's a flow restriction button. It should be installed by the factory.
Maybe they sent you a spare or Clacks QC is Crap :wink:

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H2O_MAN wrote:

That's a flow restriction button. It should be installed by the factory.

I wondered if that's what it was for. Rolling Eyes

I just fitted it. It was the only pipe with that kind of diameter. I guess it was in the bag with the other backwash pipe fittings. I had to supply my own pipe so I dunno how they could have pre-fitted it. It just pushes into the outlet elbow before the backwash pipe is shoved in and nut tightened down.

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Clacks QC is Crap :wink:

Hey you dissin' my Clack? I'll sik Gary on ya.

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Zozzie wrote:

I guess it was in the bag with the other backwash pipe fittings. I had to supply my own pipe so I dunno how they could have pre-fitted it. It just pushes into the outlet elbow before the backwash pipe is shoved in and nut tightened down.

Interesting, can you post a picture?

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