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The Failed Presidency.

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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 11:39 am
Ad Absurdam[/b], blatham. Dissent is part-and-parcel of democracy. When it is well founded and participatory, it furthers the cause of democracy. When it is missdirected and obstructionist, it does not.
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 11:42 am
timberlandko wrote:
Ad Absurdam[/b], blatham. Dissent is part-and-parcel of democracy. When it is well founded and participatory, it furthers the cause of democracy. When it is missdirected and obstructionist, it does not.

You just restated what Blatham implied about your party! Shocked
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 11:47 am
blatham wrote:
Well, is that not the desire of the Republican activists? There is, after all, only one true version of Americanism, so better only one voice forever dominant.


Blatham, To whom to you ascribe that narrow viewpoint? Though I fear another 'There you go again' from you, I believe the evidence shows that self-righteousness is fairly uniformly distributed across the political spectrum.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 11:54 am
hobitbob wrote:
You just restated what Blatham implied about your party! Shocked

No, I did not. That any would make such an inference further validates my observation.
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Scrat
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 12:15 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
I believe the evidence shows that self-righteousness is fairly uniformly distributed across the political spectrum.

And fairly well concentrated north of the border. :wink:
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 12:37 pm
timberlandko wrote:
Ad Absurdam[/b], blatham. Dissent is part-and-parcel of democracy.

Agreed so far.
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When it is well founded and participatory, it furthers the cause of democracy.

Like the 7 year witch hunt against the former president?

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When it is missdirected and obstructionist, it does not.

Like when anyone questions Bush. Now, consider Blatham's comment about Republicans feeling that they are the only valid party. Seems pretty evident to me, but then again I am not a conservative, don't believe in "tough love," and deplore war and tyranny.
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Scrat
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 01:13 pm
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When it is missdirected and obstructionist, it does not.

Like when anyone questions Bush. Now, consider Blatham's comment about Republicans feeling that they are the only valid party. Seems pretty evident to me, but then again I am not a conservative, don't believe in "tough love," and deplore war and tyranny.

I would put pretending that Timber has EVER been a cheerleader for Bush in these discussions in the misdirected and obstructionist bin. Why is it so many of you on the far left can only think in terms of you either hate Bush with me or you love Bush. Is it just too hard to defend your positions when you consider the possibility of a thoughtful alternative point of view?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 01:19 pm
Scrat wrote:
Why is it so many of you on the far left can only think in terms of you either hate Bush with me or you love Bush. Is it just too hard to defend your positions when you consider the possibility of a thoughtful alternative point of view?




Listening to a lecture on this issue from one of these right wing nut cases is like listening to a lecture from Rush Limbaugh on how to avoid drug dependency.

Good grief! What a pathetic bunch of hypocrites!
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 01:21 pm
Scrat, oh simple minded rodent grrrl, I don't "hate Bush," and consider such to be an example of shallow political discourse. I am appalled that the man is allowed out without adult supervision, but I don't hate him. I hate what he and his ilk are doing to what is just barely a democracy anymore.
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 01:24 pm
Simply put, I hate fascism and all it stands for Smile
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 01:26 pm
What will history say about Bush? "He made the trains run on schedule,"and "he built the Autobahns" have already been used.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 01:28 pm
He erased the brains of forty-eight percent of the American people?
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Scrat
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 01:31 pm
hobitbob wrote:
Scrat, oh simple minded rodent grrrl, I don't "hate Bush," and consider such to be an example of shallow political discourse. I am appalled that the man is allowed out without adult supervision, but I don't hate him. I hate what he and his ilk are doing to what is just barely a democracy anymore.

I asked why so many on the far left think that way. If you don't, then it doesn't apply to you, does it. Or are you suggesting that no one on the far left hates Bush?
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Scrat
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 01:32 pm
Tartarin wrote:
He erased the brains of forty-eight percent of the American people?

Yes, anyone who doesn't agree with you has no brain. Rolling Eyes
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pistoff
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 04:40 pm
A serious question.
Has there ever been a US Pres. as dense and inarticulate as the present one?
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 04:46 pm
Ronald "Hi, I'm senile and you idiots elected me anyway" Reagan slips my mind....Wink
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 05:27 pm
Which of the ten dwarfs do you think can beat him?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 05:31 pm
Re: A serious question.
pistoff wrote:
Has there ever been a US Pres. as dense and inarticulate as the present one?



No!

I use to think that Dan Quayle was the dumbest guy ever to hold high office, but in fairness to Dan (an excellent golfer, by the way) he looks like a genius compared with this moron.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 06:07 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
Which of the ten dwarfs do you think can beat him?


Why, it appears that any one of them will:

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pistoff
 
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Reply Tue 4 Nov, 2003 07:08 pm
Likeability
Seems that a vast majority of voters are more influenced by likeablitly of a Pres. candidate than actual issues. Perhaps, Shrub was more likeable than Al? Shrub appeals to the people that feel that he is more down to earth, uh.. non intellectual. Shrub is more like most people,maybe? The likeable screw-up, perhaps?
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