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The Failed Presidency.

 
 
BillW
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 08:07 pm
You won't have to timber, he won't even be elected to one term Wink and the country would never stand for another appointment to unPresident!
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Italgato
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 08:53 pm
Acquiunk tells us about Paul Krugman. He tells us that Krugman says that the Bush Administration simply lies.

Krugman is a perfect example of an intellectual who is a specialist and highly informed in his area of expertise, wandering into subjects which he really does not understand.

Richard A. Posner, who, anyone who knows anything about law would admit, is far more knowledgeable about legal matters than Krugman, comments in his book "Public Intellectuals", as follows:

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P. 102
"Paul Krugman, too, has ventured into commentary on a legal subject...Toward the end of his column Krugman states that Amazon.com's discriminatory preicing of books is "undeniably unfiar; some people pay more just because of who they are, " and, "it looks to me as if the Robinson-Patman Act, which outlaws price discrimination across state lines could be invoked to prevent such discrimination"
end of quote.

Then Posner, the Jurist, replies to Krugman, the economist.

quote P. 102

He( Kurgman) is wrong about the Robinson-Patman Act. If does not outlaw price discrimination.

end of quote.


Krugman is wrong quite often. Especially when he ventures out of his field( economics) and into someone else's speciality( law).

Krugman is ther perfect example of the intellectual who is quite expert in his field concluding that his expertise in one field extends to all others( eg. Politics).
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Italgato
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 08:57 pm
Bill W's posts are fascinating. I don't know if Bill W. has ever read the Guidelines which clearly state that if a posting is just one's Opinion, it is well to say so.

I do not recall Bill W. ever giving any proof or documentation when he posts.

I feel it would strengthen his arguments immensely.

Now, I merely conclude that his posts are based only on his opinion and while his opinions may be fqascinating and interesting at times, they cannot be said to be informed opinions, unless Bill W. has an expertise with which I am unfamililar.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 08:58 pm
In this article Krugman was talking about economics, which is his field.
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Italgato
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 09:01 pm
Dear acquiunk: would you mind posting a link to that article?

I do not think that it is clearly about Economics but rather mainly about Politics. I would like to look at it to see whether it is really all about Economics.

Link please????
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 09:04 pm
the Great Richard Posner announced today that soft paper was easier on his behind. Posner, who is the expert on everything under the sun, stated that this would be a day when the makers of harsh paper would rue the day they had chapped his baby soft behind. Posner states in paragraph 14 on page 28: "I have a snooth behind. Isn't that great?" Rolling Eyes
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 09:29 pm
hobitbob wrote:
the Great Richard Posner announced today that soft paper was easier on his behind. Posner, who is the expert on everything under the sun, stated that this would be a day when the makers of harsh paper would rue the day they had chapped his baby soft behind. Posner states in paragraph 14 on page 28: "I have a snooth behind. Isn't that great?" Rolling Eyes

It's bad enough having to read gato's posts without the image of Richard Posner wiping his spotty Republican ass. Thanks a lot, hobitbob. Mad
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hobitbob
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 09:33 pm
anytime. Wink
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 09:51 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/14/magazine/14TAXES.html
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 11:05 pm
Lets look at just one of the Opposition allegations concerning Bush the Younger: The claim he is "The Dumbest President Ever". That claim does not square well with the facts. Though apparently no hard IQ number for him is available on the 'net, it is a simple matter to track down his SAT score, which was 1206, placing him in the 84th percentile of all college aspirants. That he placed in the top 16% clearly puts him at the upper end of the category. While not designed as an IQ test, there is a strong corrolary between SAT scores and IQ scores; statistically, the 84th percentile corresponds to an IQ of 115 or higher.

Reference 1 Reference 2 Reference 3

Oh, and knock off the ass grabbin' again, already.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 11:14 pm
timber, I thought all college grads had a IQ of 125 or higher?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 11:14 pm
I'll see that Krugman, and raise you a Krauthammer
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What makes the Bush-haters so mad?
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 11:18 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
timber, I thought all college grads had a IQ of 125 or higher?

Now c'mon, c.i. ... that's preposterous on the face of it. 125 is an average of college graduate scores, not the lower limit. Besides, the SAT/IQ corollary would place 115 as a lower limit, and in no way addresses any question of upper limit. It would be reasonable to extrapolate that as a multiply degreed college graduate, Bush would trend to a higher score. Think about it.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Mon 15 Sep, 2003 11:26 pm
He's pretty much wasted that fancy Ivy League sheepskin, from what I see.

The man who would be emperor was a "C" student at Yale and proud of it, couldn't make it past 1st Lieutenant in the Air National Guard (and tree moss can be promoted to Captain, as long as it doesn't run away); must have paid someone off to do his MBA work at Harvard since no record of exemplars exists prior, and failed at every business opportunity that was not supported by family, friends, and retainers.

So is this at all surprising for President Dumber-than-Dogshit?

Quote:
President Bush is stressing that the United States has a clear mission in Iraq to fight terrorists and foster democracy there, yet a new poll shows that fewer than half of Americans share his belief.

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"We are following a clear strategy with three objectives: destroy the terrorists, enlist international support for a free Iraq and quickly transfer authority to the Iraqi people," Bush said Saturday in his weekly radio address.


So let's look at those one at a time:

**"destroy the terrists", uh, no. No sign that's going at all well. Seems the terrists are no only striking at will and getting stronger, but we seem to be helping out their recruiting drive with our outstanding treatment of the Iraqis.

**"enlist international support", nope, another non-starter. Seems the International Confectionary Alliance and now the Japanese are still a bit 'worried' about putting their troops into harm's way for Dubya's war. Imagine that...governments with actual, responsible, adults in charge.

**"quickly transfer authority to the Iraqi People", yeah sure. As long as they are not Shia, Sunni, Kurdish and have the last name of Chalabi. If US forces left today, the Iraqis would probably rip that guy limb from limb within 24 hours. Nothing like a puppet without its puppeteer...that must be how it feels every time he's away from Karl and Unka Dick, right?

Pretty much have to hand out another failing grade. But when your life is one long, sad song in the key of "F", I guess you get inured to the concept.
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Italgato
 
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Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2003 02:28 am
Professor Hobitbob:

I really did not think you would attempt to denigrate another scholar as you have done to Judge Posner.

Why don't you do the honorable thing and try to rebut his ideas instead of attacking him as Cyrano was attacked- By a lackey and from behind.

You do demean yourself.
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Italgato
 
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Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2003 02:39 am
P. Diddie states that President Bush must have paid someone off to do his MBA work at Harvard.

I wonder if P. Diddie can give a link to support that statement.

Has P. Diddie ever attended the Harvard Business School?

Does he know anyone who has?

Timber pointed out that President Bush had a 1206 SAT and at least a 115 IQ( my correlations show at least 120).

Does P. Diddie know what is involved in passing courses in the MBA Program at HArvard?

Does P. Diddie think that someone took the exams for President Bush?

Does P. Diddie know that Harvard will not put up with cheating no matter who the person is?

Does P. Diddie know that Ted Kennedy was expelled for getting someone to take his Spanish final for him?

Does P. Diddie know that many of the MBA classes at Harvard are structured like Law School classes where the professor calls on the individual student to discuss the previous night's readings?

Does P. Diddie know that some of the MBA classes are structured so that individuals must solve a particular broad based problem, report on it in class and answer myriad questions concerning the reports?
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Scrat
 
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Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2003 08:08 am
Re: The Failed Presidency.
au1929 wrote:
Would you consider the Bush presidency a "FAILED PRESIDENCY." If so why? Have there been in your opinion any successes?

I saw the title for this discussion, and I thought, "Aren't people tired of discussing the Clinton administration?" (Boy is my face red.) :wink:

But seriously, no, I wouldn't call Dubya's a failed Presidency, nor would I call it a home run. I'm disappointed in a lot of his decisions--pretty much all of them designed to woo those on the left who obviously (obvious to me, at least) are absolutely unwilling to be wooed. Bush ran as a conservative and is governing as a moderate. I didn't intend to elect a moderate.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2003 09:00 am
Re: The Failed Presidency.
Scrat wrote:
Bush ran as a conservative and is governing as a moderate. I didn't intend to elect a moderate.


Would you mind going into a bit more detail about how Bush has failed you?

Another way of asking it might be, 'what are some of the moderate positions Bush has taken that have left you feeling let down'?
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Scrat
 
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Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2003 09:48 am
Re: The Failed Presidency.
PDiddie wrote:
Scrat wrote:
Bush ran as a conservative and is governing as a moderate. I didn't intend to elect a moderate.


Would you mind going into a bit more detail about how Bush has failed you?

Another way of asking it might be, 'what are some of the moderate positions Bush has taken that have left you feeling let down'?

Glad to. For starters, he handed the teachers' union and the Democrats the largest expansion in the federal education bureaucracy in history, even letting Ted Kennedy pen much of the legislation. Then there are the steel tariffs... another bone to a dog that won't ever hunt for Bush. That's two off the top of my head, I'd give it some thought and give you more, but I have a meeting starting in ten minutes.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 16 Sep, 2003 11:04 am
It is difficult, from the traditional conservative perspective, to accept or condone the growth of government Bush the Younger has fostered ... how Democratic of him. IMO, while in some part and paticular justified, even prudent, his overall spending record displays a profligacy that is untoward to say the least, though there blame must be shared with the legislators who pass, and pad, the proposed legislation. Not to single out this administration by any means; pork is the staple diet of those within the confines of The Beltway.
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