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Is cyber-sex, internet porn, chat ect...cheating?

 
 
safecracker
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 07:07 am
No we are not splitting hairs IMO because porn as is has no real interaction and no intallectual cheating it is all carnal desire.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 07:07 am
Red, nice Clockwork Orange avatar, btw.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 08:29 am
Jes raises some interesting points... there is some level of interactivity that bothers me, but I agree it's tough to draw the line.

CodeBorg wrote:
To some people, nothing is cheating because it enriches and fulfills a person's life, provides pleasure, and is a form of practice. The better to learn, grow, and be more giving at home. But many relationships are based on possession and control rather than Love. To each their own.


CodeBorg, are you saying that the choices are a) be in an open relationship, which is enriching, fulfilling, and pleasurable (for both parties) or b) be in a (mutually-agreed-upon) committed relationship, which is based on possession and control rather than love?
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 08:47 am
I think CodeBorg is saying exactly that Soz, but he left out the option of just being single, and hermit-like. There are more ways to self-fulfillment than just screwing around, so to speak Laughing Personally, I think porn is a lot more fun to indulge in with a commited partner.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 08:50 am
Wait, let me regroup and get my posts up...I don't think he is saying that exactly, just pointing out that some relationships are based on posession and control, but to some extent, all relationships, personal and business, are based on that. The goal is to make that interaction positive, rather than negative, whatever kind of relationship it is.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 08:54 am
Nothing on this planet will ever match the on call, in an instant, anytime anywhere porn that exists inside my head...it's free too......but not to the public Twisted Evil :wink:
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 08:55 am
Right, Cav. He doesn't seem to think there is much that is positive about monogamous relationships, though -- wanted to clarify that with him.

BPB, Laughing
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 09:02 am
Our borg friend should clarify that indeed. He is a self-admitted bachelor who has yet to find a 'meeting of the minds' with a lovely female. I suggest an A2K reality show, virtual, of course....Smile
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Craven de Kere
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 09:45 am
THe ReDHoRN wrote:
sometimes, im the only one who cracks myself up! and sometimes im the only one who laughs at my own jokes!


You really shouldn't joke about porn... I lost a close family member to porn.


Poor gramps.




[size=7]He he[/size]
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 09:47 am
He he died how how? Stop stuttering in Lilliputian!
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 09:53 am
It seems sometimes Craven cracks everyone up Laughing Maybe Red just needs new material...poor gramps, HA!
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aimeemarie123
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 10:47 am
cheating??
i don't think that either is cheating because it doesn't actually involve committing an act. using your imagination and meeting new people is not wrong. Porn is not something i like but to each his own! Embarrassed
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safecracker
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 04:09 pm
how is cyber not commiting the act you may not be in contact but both of you are agreeing to have "sex" be it in the conventional form or not.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 04:17 pm
It is indeed weird how porn and sex are moving closer together via the internet.

Basically, I would put cybersex between two people (A and Z) who met online, no exchange of cash, on one side of the "cheating or not?" line -- if A's wife B thinks they are in a committed, monogamous relationship, A is cheating.

I would put looking at pornographic images online on the other side of the line -- not cheating. (Though as Cav says, more fun as a shared activity.)

There is a vast area between those situations, and I would be hard-pressed to locate the line.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Wed 20 Aug, 2003 04:23 pm
aimeemarie123, a rhyme that is worthy of me, fresh from women's studies....let's narrow your thesis. There are three questions (we'll ignore the etc.) on the table....cybersex, internet porn, and chat. Which two of the 'either' are you referring to? You also indicate that porn is not your your thing, but that you don't hold it against anyone who chooses to indulge in it. Care to elaborate? Sorry for playing teacher here, but focusing your opinion will help you in the long run, especially with what you are studying. Hope no offense is taken Wink
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aimeemarie123
 
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Reply Thu 21 Aug, 2003 07:38 am
narrow my opinion
i do not believe that chat , is any thing but making friends with someone via the internet. cyber sex is like phone sex but with out hearing the persons voice. if my boy friend felt he had to do it when i was not around i don't care because i know that he is with me and sometimes i am not always available when he needs me. (long distance- he lives an hour away, i only see him on the weekends). Porn is something that is getting less and less stigma in our society. i don't like the way women are depicted (oh please i am so vulnerable i need a man to save me) in it but, porn is the only industry that gives women all shapes and sizes a way to show how beautiful they are. granted i don't think people should be paid to have sex, but tasteful pictures are ok. does that answer your question well enough, cavfancier? don't worry no offense taken i am very opinionated and could ramble on forever, so i try to keep answers short and sweet, i figure if someone wants me to elaborate they will ask.
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 21 Aug, 2003 09:17 am
Well answered. I agree, I think tastefully done pictures fall into the 'erotic art' category, also writing of the the same ilk.
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safecracker
 
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Reply Thu 21 Aug, 2003 12:01 pm
the thing about the way woman are depicted in porn is that fact it is what most men really want and lets face it porn is mostly marketed to men.....if it wasnt porno tounge wouldnt exist lol
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cavfancier
 
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Reply Thu 21 Aug, 2003 12:24 pm
I would say that yes, porn really is a male market, but I have dated some women who were really into it....
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safecracker
 
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Reply Thu 21 Aug, 2003 12:33 pm
as have I but the majority wins when marketing.
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