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Cops Suspect Parents In Missing British Girl Case

 
 
McTag
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 03:16 pm
Hey Steve I read in the paper today that Leicestershire County Council Social Services Department were having a meeting with the police about the McCanns.
This is because, as a matter of routine I suppose, the parents have been made legally official suspects in a matter concerning one of their children.

This prompted me to write to the Director, informing him that ON NO ACCOUNT should LCC Social Services interfere directly with the McCann family.
Can you imagine anything worse?
What these folks are being put through, in such circumstances.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 10:30 pm
McTag wrote:
Hey Steve I read in the paper today that Leicestershire County Council Social Services Department were having a meeting with the police about the McCanns.
This is because, as a matter of routine I suppose, the parents have been made legally official suspects in a matter concerning one of their children.


Actually it was because they have to do so by (British) law.

[I posted that already earlier.]
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Mame
 
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Reply Tue 11 Sep, 2007 11:48 pm
Regarding how composed and/or well-dressed the McCann's seem to be, it HAS been four months since the child went missing and they have suffered much in that time, point being that their pain and grief would have different foci in that time. I would suppose that they are either operating on auto-pilot or they're continuing to live their lives. Life does go on, and this is not to diminish their loss or pain. But it does go on, and it's not a crime.

This is from someone who has lost a daughter and a grandson and who still had to function at work very shortly after those losses.

I don't remember if I wore earrings but I may very well have. These little things that we do help somehow in the great continuum.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:02 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
McTag wrote:
Hey Steve I read in the paper today that Leicestershire County Council Social Services Department were having a meeting with the police about the McCanns.
This is because, as a matter of routine I suppose, the parents have been made legally official suspects in a matter concerning one of their children.


Actually it was because they have to do so by (British) law.

[I posted that already earlier.]


You did. I missed it. Thank you.

In Britain, the first thing you think of if Social Services get involved in a case involving children, is that the children get "taken into care" while investigations are carried out.
No doubt that does not happen in all cases, but these are the ones which hit the headlines.
No doubt also, the Director will be encouraged by me telling him/her to apply a bit of common sense here.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 06:42 am
The Telegraphs sums up the latest - nota bene the conjunctives.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 08:38 am
Quote:
Exactly What Is In The Madeleine McCann Dossier?
(LAWFUEL - The Legal Newswire, September 12, 2007)

A Portuguese judge has started to examine the files into the disappearance of their four-year-old daughter Madeleine, Sky News reports.

He has ten days to read the 4,000-page dossier and review the evidence complied by the Policia Judiciaria - Portugal's CID.

Legal experts said the judge has the power to order the couple back to Portugal and place them under house arrest.

Intense attention has focused on what exactly police found in the hire car rented by Madeleine's parents 25 days after she went missing.

Detectives denied reports that forensic tests on a sample taken from the vehicle, a silver Renault Scenic, had revealed a "100% match" with the missing girl's DNA.

Police spokesman Chief Inspector Olegario Sousa said: "That's not true. Even specialists have said there is no 100% in anything."

But senior sources linked to the investigation told Portuguese journalists they discovered "bodily fluids" - not blood - with an 88% match to Madeleine's genetic profile in the car's boot.

Police also found so much of the girl's hair in the car that it could not have been transferred from a blanket or clothes, and must have come directly from her body, one of the sources said.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:04 pm
good for you writing to the Director of LCC McT

I know one has to always keep an open mind

but I cant in this case.

I may of course be wrong, but I am convinced the McCanns had nothing whatsoever to do with the disappearance of their daughter.

Mame extremely sorry to hear about your loss. But if you're not dead yourself, life somehow goes on as you say.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:15 pm
Steve 41oo wrote:
I may of course be wrong, but I am convinced the McCanns had nothing whatsoever to do with the disappearance of their daughter.


I still suppose that one has to have "the facts" to be convinced.

Anything else is 'belief', that's part of religion,.
The Portugal Criminal Code is similar to any other other in any other democratic country (since 1975, atl east) which are based on Roman Law.
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Mame
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:17 pm
Steve 41oo wrote:
good for you writing to the Director of LCC McT

I know one has to always keep an open mind

but I cant in this case.

I may of course be wrong, but I am convinced the McCanns had nothing whatsoever to do with the disappearance of their daughter.

Mame extremely sorry to hear about your loss. But if you're not dead yourself, life somehow goes on as you say.




Thank you, Steve 41oo, I think you got my point - despite what happens in our lives, we do go on and we put on clothes and jewellery and it doesn't mean they're uncaring or that they had anything to do with her death.

I don't know if they did, but there are still so many unanswered questions. Reminds me of the OJ trial.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:19 pm
The world's reaction, as published by the Times

Quote:
Madeleine McCann: the global reaction

Germany

The Madeleine case has split Germany, prompting fierce and surprisingly well informed arguments about whether the McCanns are guilty killers or innocent victims. "A tragedy - however you look at it," was the headline on Stern magazine's investigation into the disappearance published on Thursday. At the outset of the case, many Roman Catholic churches called for prayers for the distressed parents. Now the priests are not so sure. The discussion hums in pubs, offices and school staff rooms. The publicity has focused thoughts on Germany's home-grown problem: there are 1,600 missing children in Germany, more than anywhere else in Europe. "Every day there are 200 to 300 cases in Germany of children who have disappeared or have been found," says Marlene Rupprecht, head of the parliamentary Children's Commission. Roger Boyes, The Times' correspondent in Berlin

Australia

Lindy Chamberlai nthe Australian mother whose child was killed by a dingo, appeared on national television to defend Kate and Gerry McCann as their story took on renewed prominence in the Australian media. After her baby daughter, Azaria, disappeared from an Outback campsite in 1980, a case that made international news, Lindy Chamberlain was convicted of her child's murder and sentenced to life. It was not until 1986, when her baby's jacket was found in a dingo lair, that she was acquitted. As the Australian tabloids yesterday elevated the Madeleine McCann story to page three, Ms Chamberlain, who has much credibility with Australians, appealed for people not to pre-judge the McCanns in the way she had been in the 1980s. By and large, the McCanns have received sympathetic coverage in newspapers and on television but with the alleged discovery of their child's DNA in the rental car that may be changing.

In the Sydney Daily Telegraph tabloid, the columnist Rita Panahi complained that the English press had sanctified the McCanns when they should have been charged with neglect for leaving their child unattended. Bernard Lagan, The Times' correspondent in Sydney

France

The French showed only mild interest in the Madeleine McCann case until last weekend when it appeared that the parents were suspects. French reporting and dinner table discussions on the subject were mainly about the phenomenon of the British media orgy rather than the story itself. The standard comment in Paris was: Why are the British so hysterical about what amounts to a simple sad news item. The answer, relayed by media, was that Maddy and her parents symbolised middle-class Anglo-Saxon ideals and the Portuguese stood for untrustworthy Latins. That has now changed, with television and print media giving extensive cover to the breaking story. Le Parisien, the popular tabloid, splashed on the case today with the headline: "Madeleine's parents more suspects than ever". Television news gave a full history of the case and reported the conflicting attitudes of the Portuguese and British media. Charles Bremner, The Times' correspondent in Paris

Japan

With the exception of a few scattered TV reports, Japan had largely ignored the Madeline case until last week. Although general interest in the story remains low, the "sports" tabloid papers and more lurid TV channels have picked-up on the apparent switch in police focus that now pitches the McCanns as the villains. No particular judgment is passed, but those covering the story express their (traditional) fascination with the way that Fleet Street gets itself worked-up over this kind of thing. They are always ghoulishly impressed by screaming headlines, dramatic switches in the story and the energy with which the British press hound everyone involved. Leo Lewis, Asia Business Correspondent for The Times

Belgium

The saga has been covered regularly in the Belgian press and the high level of public awareness was shown by a possible sighting in the town of Tongeren on August 3 which was taken seriously by police. DNA tests on a milk bottle proved that the little girl was not Madeleine. Perhaps understandably in a country that has suffered some notorious paedophile cases, including that of Marc Dutroux, who was jailed for a series of attacks in 2004, the newspapers are following the story closely and the French-language tabloid La Derniere Heure has a correspondent based in Portimao. David Charter, The Times' correspondent in Brussels.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:21 pm
Mame wrote:
I don't know if they did, but there are still so many unanswered questions. Reminds me of the OJ trial.


Well, not only that there hasn't been a trial - the investigational judge even hasn't opened a formal proceedings yet: he has 10 days to consider whether charges should be filed.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:45 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Steve 41oo wrote:
I may of course be wrong, but I am convinced the McCanns had nothing whatsoever to do with the disappearance of their daughter.


I still suppose that one has to have "the facts" to be convinced.

Well you are right. But but this is not a cool scientific objective investigation. There are powerful players behind the scenes who are not interested in the objective truth.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 12:46 pm
ok England Russia bye
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Mame
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 01:08 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Mame wrote:
I don't know if they did, but there are still so many unanswered questions. Reminds me of the OJ trial.


Well, not only that there hasn't been a trial - the investigational judge even hasn't opened a formal proceedings yet: he has 10 days to consider whether charges should be filed.


I was referring to the bungling.
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Wed 12 Sep, 2007 01:11 pm
Steve 41oo wrote:
ok England Russia bye


(steve was talking about a football match on another thread. i think he forgot which thread he was posting on.)

Are you okay, Steve?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 01:53 am
Donations for the McCanns are totalling £1,036,104.17 meanwhile - I wonder how much e.g. Victim Support gets per annum.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 02:03 am
In The Guardian yesterday a theory was aired:

The McCanns (both doctors) sedated their children so they could have an undisturbed night with their friends- Madeleine died- the McCanns feared losing their other children after conviction for manslaughter- they hid the body, then took part in an elaborate charade, even involving the Pope.

Not credible to me.

Meanwhile the roadworks nearby are to be re-excavated.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 02:23 am
wandeljw wrote:
Steve 41oo wrote:
ok England Russia bye


(steve was talking about a football match on another thread. i think he forgot which thread he was posting on.)

Are you okay, Steve?
fine thank you Wandel. A bit tired after my bike ride to Greenwich yesterday, and still getting some twinges from the broken metatarsal, otherwise firing on all 3 cylinders :wink: (England won btw)
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 02:33 am
McTag wrote:
In The Guardian yesterday a theory was aired:

The McCanns (both doctors) sedated their children so they could have an undisturbed night with their friends- Madeleine died- the McCanns feared losing their other children after conviction for manslaughter- they hid the body, then took part in an elaborate charade, even involving the Pope.

Not credible to me.
nor me.
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happycat
 
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Reply Thu 13 Sep, 2007 04:12 am
Somewhere in Hollywood, there are screenwriters working on a made for tv movie about this right now. They're just waiting for the ending.
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