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Linda Ronstadt Booed off Stage at Vegas

 
 
swolf
 
Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 07:33 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126222,00.html

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Somehow or other I'm getting the impression Michael fat-drunk-and-stupid-is-no-way-to-go-through-life Moore isn't playing too well out there in Pioeria or other parts of heartland America.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 07:35 pm
The final laugh has not been even chuckled.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 08:06 pm
I've always enjoyed the singing of Linda Ronstadt, and there was a time when she was a real babe (not that that is of any significance of course; I just wanted to gratuitously toss out the observation), but it is somewhat sad that, at 58 years of age, when the glory days of rock n roll have long passed her by, she is still trying to recapture something of the spirit of the "old days" by gratuitously tossing out her political opinions during an oldies gig for which people plunked down a fair amount of cash to hear her sing...period.

Of course she has the right to say almost anything she wants to while on stage, but considering her act and the audience, it was hardly professional.

I hope she got a kick out of it, because its probably going to cost her bookings.

It's a shame, because she was (and for all I know still is) a lovely vocalist and what the point was for bringing Moore into the picture is beyond me. It's not like he's Nelson Mandela, Huey Newton, or even Pee Wee Herman.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 08:18 pm
Re: Linda Ronstadt Booed off Stage at Vegas
swolf wrote:
Somehow or other I'm getting the impression Michael fat-drunk-and-stupid-is-no-way-to-go-through-life Moore isn't playing too well out there in Pioeria or other parts of heartland America.

Pioeria? Really, that's the worst mis-spelling of "pyorrhea" I've ever seen.

And by the way, it's not just the heartland: people all over the country suffer from gum disease.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 08:18 pm
Poor people - they're already in the desert in the summer (worst torture that I can imagine) and then someone's talking politics. Really, horribly rude of me, but that seems to be piling unkindness on unkindness.

The full (?) reports on this are kinda funny.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 08:28 pm
My my, haven't we become staid and stiff over the years.

We grow up going to rock concerts where the performers are understood to be stoned, we smoke at the concerts like it is a constitutional right and thirty years later we decry one of those performers for taking a moment to give her honest opinion of a moviemaker.

Ronstadt came out of the sixties during the time when rock groups were understood to be against Viet Nam. Why is anyone so shocked she is against Iraq?

Maybe the hotel ought to think more about the people going overboard and destroying their property than a singer praising a movie.

If the Vegas hotel wants to boot her, let them go ahead. It's their damn hotel. But what if they invite some country guy next week who sings about how much we have to support our boys over there because they are doing a job that has to be done. Will HE be considered controversial?

Take a guess.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 08:43 pm
kelticwizard, I think that's a bit of a no-brainer (fighting really hard not to ad hominem an entire audience group)
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 08:47 pm
Some of the 4500 walked out and some of the 4500 threw drinks and defaced posters tells me that most did not.

That's a long way from Linda Ronstadt Booed Off The Stage...but nice try.
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Jim
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 09:05 pm
One of my favorite Linda Ronstadt songs was sung about Michael Moore.

"You're No Good".
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 09:09 pm
Hmm, this could revitalize her career, if it happens to need it. Perhaps not in Las Vegas.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 10:05 pm
kelticwizard wrote:
My my, haven't we become staid and stiff over the years.

Yes we have. It comes with getting old. Ronstadt, as someone who makes a very nice living off the desire of her audience to be entertained, should appreciate this. A gig at a second tier casino in Las Vegas ain't Woodstock or Monterey.

We grow up going to rock concerts where the performers are understood to be stoned, we smoke at the concerts like it is a constitutional right and thirty years later we decry one of those performers for taking a moment to give her honest opinion of a moviemaker.

Oh, so you are including yourself in the group "decrying" her act, or is that an ironic "we" you're employing?

A lot of us, not all of us, did grow up getting stoned at rock concerts. My bet is that 30 years later most of us no longer do so. We also had sex in the back of VW Beetles, worked at dead end factory jobs to get cash for our dope, marched in Washington, and thought Gene McCarthy could change the world. It was fun, but we're not kids anymore. Perhaps the major flaw of the Baby Boomer Generation is it's mad desire to remain young and cool.


Ronstadt came out of the sixties during the time when rock groups were understood to be against Viet Nam. Why is anyone so shocked she is against Iraq?

Maybe because she is 58 years old and, supposedly, a professional performer? Remember, this the rock hellcat who was singing "Mr Sandman" with the Nelson Riddle Orchestra decades ago. I liked it as I liked her album of mexican songs, but she's hardly someone who has been inseperably welded to the 60's. Someone attending a Ronstadt concert in 1971 would be foolish, and probably disappointed, in expecting a completely non-political performance. Not so with Ronstadt in 2004 at the Alladin. If they had lived, it's reasonable to imagine that John Lennon, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison and Jimi Hendrix would have not sought to cash in on a middle aged audience in Las Vegas, but Linda Ronstadt ceded her place in that rare group (if she ever had one) long ago.

Maybe the hotel ought to think more about the people going overboard and destroying their property than a singer praising a movie.

They did. They were paying her. The patrons were paying them. They could have called in the police and rousted paying customers or booted her off the stage. Seems like they made the appropriate business descision. I assure you, Bill Graham wasn't producing this show in Vegas, and I'm not sure he wouldn't have made the same decision.

If the Vegas hotel wants to boot her, let them go ahead. It's their damn hotel. But what if they invite some country guy next week who sings about how much we have to support our boys over there because they are doing a job that has to be done. Will HE be considered controversial?

Depends upon the audience. If it's a convention of pot bellied, grey haired, hippie Green Party activists, it probably will be, but than I doubt such a group is going to show up for a Toby Keith concert. If it's the same Ronstadt audience, the chance are it won't be. What's your point? The Hotel didn't make a political judgment, they made a business decision. Considering Ronstadt's career over the last 20 years, the audience had a reasonable expectation that she would not go Whoopie Goldberg. Maybe she was trying to recapture her lost youth. Who knows? We do know her audience didn't like it, and the customer is always right.

Take a guess.

You are implying that the Hotel as part of The Establishment (Man!) would never consider a performer with a conservative slant to be contraversial. Assuming you truly are one of "we" who smoked dope and chanted "Hell No We Won't Go!" you seem to have a serious case of arrested development. If a redneck country performer pissed of a paying crowd, he and not the crowd would get the boot...and rightly so.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 10:08 pm
ossobuco wrote:
... Perhaps not in Las Vegas.


Nor at Wolftrap
From earlier this month:
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The biggest excitement of the night, by a long shot, came when Ronstadt then dedicated her encore of "Desperado" to filmmaker Michael Moore, kick-starting a boo-cheer competition throughout the venue that drowned out her singing and left grown-ups in tuxes and evening gowns yelling at each other on their way to the parking lot.


Besides which, she now looks like Michael Moore:

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/Music/9905/12/country.trio/linda.ronstadt.jpg
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 10:37 pm
Whew!

Well, she once was quite hot.

At Wolftrap she might have expected a sympathetic audience, but Vegas? And after Wolftrap?
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swolf
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 10:47 pm
Man, that's seriously ugly. She might want to consider a radio career...
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 19 Jul, 2004 10:55 pm
<frowns>
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Earl Grey
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 04:15 am
I think that was unprofessional of Linda Ronstadt. People did not pay to hear her political views, no matter how well founded they might be.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 05:17 am
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I think that was unprofessional of Linda Ronstadt. People did not pay to hear her political views, no matter how well founded they might be.


That says it all. If an audience pays good money for a ticket to an entertainment venue, they want entertainment. If they want politics, there are news programs, political gatherings and the like. I think that Ronstadt was very inappropriate, and got what she deserved.
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 05:24 am
Earl Grey wrote:
I think that was unprofessional of Linda Ronstadt. People did not pay to hear her political views, no matter how well founded they might be.


Many performers choose to share their views whether political or otherwise with their audience. It is part of thier expression as an artist and in insight as to who they are. The performer has to determine the consequences of his or her actions. In Ms. Ronstadt's case, she had already stated she hoped that the Aladdin wouldn't book her again. Alladin's decision to kick her out of her room was uncalled for. People pay for the total package, if they don't like it they don't have to support her oin the future. Personally, I think I will buy a few more of Linda's albums today. BTW her Canciones de mi Padre and Mas Canciones is superb. One of the best rock albums ever produced is Heart Like a Wheel. (produced by Peter Asher.)
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 05:29 am
swolf wrote:
Man, that's seriously ugly. She might want to consider a radio career...


swolf, how about a picture of yourself? You can upload it to your avatar. I find that most anonymous posters who knock people's appearance are fat or ugly themselves. Linda is by no means ugly, she is overweight.

BTW your thread title is a lie (what else is new?) Ronstadt was not booed off stage. A disturbance broke out between the supporters and the ddetractors of Bush. It's the audience's behaviour that is the issue. Don't blame Ronstadt. Ever heard of personal responsibility?
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swolf
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 05:47 am
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Before singing "Desperado" for an encore Saturday night, the 58-year-old rocker called Moore a "great American patriot" and "someone who is spreading the truth." She also encouraged everybody to see the documentary about President Bush (search).

Ronstadt's comments drew loud boos and some of the 4,500 people in attendance stormed out of the theater. People also tore down concert posters and tossed cocktails into the air.

"It was a very ugly scene," Aladdin President Bill Timmins told The Associated Press. "She praised him and all of a sudden all bedlam broke loose."



If that ain't getting booed off the stage, as Fats Waller used to say, it'll have to do until the real thing comes along.
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