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Linda Ronstadt Booed off Stage at Vegas

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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:36 am
Who is Rick D'Israeli to decide what "kind of perfomer" Ronstadt is? Again, you must not get out much.

And again, anyone who is so intolerant and narrow-minded that he or she would be annoyed by dedicating a song to a controversial figure, I wouldn't want as a fan. Go to a Toby Keith concert instead.
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:38 am
Redheat wrote:
The audience could have expressed their opinions with mangement in a civil matter. They could have gotten up an left in silence in protest. However the manager Bill Timmins had NO right to throw her out of the casino because the audience didn't know how to act.

I don't see how we can disagree on this part.

My point is that, outside the reaction of the public, I believe Ronstadt should not have done this.
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:39 am
roger wrote:
Okay, great. She expressed her opinion. The audiance (sic)expressed its opinion.


Half the audience cheered her. Some of the other half committed acts of vandalism. Not exactly a valid way to express one's opinion.
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:39 am
harper wrote:
Who is Rick D'Israeli to decide what "kind of perfomer" Ronstadt is? Again, you must not get out much.

I think I have made my point.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:40 am
swolf old girl how do you feel about entertainers that have built their entire marginal careers around nothing BUT a political statement? For instance, can you name me all of Lee Greenwoods platinum hits besides God Bless The USA?

And Toby Keith IMO, shamelessly cashed in on 9/11 with Courtesy Of The Red White And Blue. Even Paul McCartney rushed out that cheesy Freedom song to cash in. I'm betting you have no problem whatever with that
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:40 am
Rick d'Israeli wrote:
Redheat wrote:
The audience could have expressed their opinions with mangement in a civil matter. They could have gotten up an left in silence in protest. However the manager Bill Timmins had NO right to throw her out of the casino because the audience didn't know how to act.

I don't see how we can disagree on this part.

My point is that, outside the reaction of the public, I believe Ronstadt should not have done this.


Well, that would matter if you were Ronstadt's manager. Since you are not, it doesn't.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:41 am
If Timmins wanted a political act, he would have hired Gallagher. He hired Ronstadt to sing and dance and whatever else she does. Not to make her personal political statement.

He was perfectly within his rights to act as he did.
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:42 am
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
swolf old girl how do you feel about entertainers that have built their entire marginal careers around nothing BUT a political statement? For instance, can you name me all of Lee Greenwoods platinum hits besides God Bless The USA?

And Toby Keith IMO, shamelessly cashed in on 9/11 with Courtesy Of The Red White And Blue. Even Paul McCartney rushed out that cheesy Freedom song to cash in. I'm betting you have no problem whatever with that


And what about Ted Nugent?
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Rick d Israeli
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:43 am
Harper wrote:
Well, that would matter if you were Ronstadt's manager. Since you are not, it doesn't.

Rolling Eyes
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:47 am
Uncle Ted definitely has his own agenda.
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:48 am
McGentrix wrote:
If Timmins wanted a political act, he would have hired Gallagher. He hired Ronstadt to sing and dance and whatever else she does. Not to make her personal political statement.

He was perfectly within his rights to act as he did.


Kicking her out of her hotel room was over the top but within his "rights." Now we know why Ronstadt loathes playing Vegas. So the fianl result of this brouhaha is that Linda Ronstadt's views ahve been exposed to millions instead of just a few drunk morons. Again, dedicating a song could hardly be construed as turning her act into a "political act."

BTW your choice of Gallagher as an example of a political act is puzzling but, at the same time, revealing.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:52 am
Nugent....Mr.Pro War. Funny how when he was actually of draft age during the Viet Nam conflict he was chasing pussy and swinging around on a rope in a loin cloth. Now there's a patriot. Rolling Eyes

Sure is easy to be a tough pro war guy when you're in no danger of having to go. Nugent shares that in common with many of our leaders and beloved A2K members. :wink:
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:58 am
McGentrix wrote:
If Timmins wanted a political act, he would have hired Gallagher.


http://www.teddwebb.com/showcase/where_are_they_now/gallagher.jpg

"I want to dedicate this next watermelon to a real patriot, Michael Moore."
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 07:58 am
Seems like he was just another dumbassed rock and roll star in the 60's, 70's and 80's. I don't believe he got his political aspirations until later in life well after the Vietnam war.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 08:01 am
McGentrix wrote:
Seems like he was just another dumbassed rock and roll star in the 60's, 70's and 80's. I don't believe he got his political aspirations until later in life well after the Vietnam war.


and after he was too old to actually serve..... very courageous and All American......he's still acting like a dumb ass IMO.....great rocker though.....and that's all I care about.......
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 08:04 am
Quote:
...great rocker though...


See, we can agree on somethings. Rock and roll can be above such silly things as politics.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 08:07 am
Then you'll pay to see Ozzy even though he did that anti bush tirade right?
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Redheat
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 08:13 am
Rick d'Israeli wrote:
Redheat wrote:
The audience could have expressed their opinions with mangement in a civil matter. They could have gotten up an left in silence in protest. However the manager Bill Timmins had NO right to throw her out of the casino because the audience didn't know how to act.

I don't see how we can disagree on this part.

My point is that, outside the reaction of the public, I believe Ronstadt should not have done this.


My point is that it doesn't matter what you "believe" because this is a matter of free speech, period. Since she is an entertainer and not a journalist, politican or elected leader she isn't bound to any "traditionaly ethical" standards. Just like Toby Keith is allowed to sing POLITICAL songs, she is allowed to make a single comment.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 08:18 am
She is Timmins employee. She was hired to perform. Timmins was dissatisfied with her performance and had her walked out. As her employer, he was perfectly within his rights to do so.

It's like Janet Jackson showing her boob. No one expected it and had they known she would do that, she wouldn't have been hired. Had Timmins known that Ronstadt was going to be making a political statement, he would not have hired her.

Tim Robbins, an actor I greatly admire despite his political leanings, did not get to attend the baseball hall of fame for fear of his making a political speech. He is very outspoken about his politics and because of that, he was not hired.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 08:21 am
ignoring the Ozzy question?
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