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Linda Ronstadt Booed off Stage at Vegas

 
 
Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:01 pm
McGentrix wrote:
She is Timmins employee. She was hired to perform. Timmins was dissatisfied with her performance and had her walked out. As her employer, he was perfectly within his rights to do so.



Wrong. Performers perform under contract, unless the contract stated that she was not permitted to engage in any political speech, (believe me, it didn't) Ronstadt was perfectly within her rights to perform her act as she saw fit. Also, I am sure Ronstadt got paid. We don't know if Timmins had a right to revoke her lodging as we don't know what the contract specifically stated in that regard.

Not to belabor the issue but the best performers bare their souls on stage. Not only do most of the better ones share their political views with the audience but they share many personal and intimate details with their audience as well. Most fans enjoy this. Unfortrunately, most who attended the Alladin concert were just taking advantage of a nice spiff that comes with their package and not Ronstadt fans at all. Sadly, the malcontent trash who created a scene ruined the night for those Ronstadt fans who did attend.
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:09 pm
revel wrote:
I have almost forgotten since no one has said anything about the anthrax, but wasn't it all democratic senators who were the targets of that, or at least their names on the addresses that had the anthrax? Just something I have always thought odd and have my own conspiracy theories about.

First it was the dixi chicks, then whoopi (slim fast commercial thing) and now Linda Ronstadt. Gee, I get the feeling we're not in America anymore.

The hotel owner and the audience was out of line.

I think she looks like she is a nice middle age lady. I wonder why men think women have to remain like they did in their early twenty's and they can look like death warmed over?


I would love to see their photos, especially swolf. On another forum I used to hang out on, the right-wing nuts were always calling people fat and ugly. Then one day, someone e-mailed me their photos! What a revelation. Funny too that people with $5 haircuts and 5 year-old TJ Maxx fashions would defend Republican ideals like doing away with the estate tax and tax breaks for the wealthy. I could never figure that one out.

As far as Linda's appearance, why is it that so many great female vocalists put on so much weight in their later years. Ella, Rosemary Clooney, Peggy Lee just to name three.
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Redheat
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:09 pm
Harper wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
She is Timmins employee. She was hired to perform. Timmins was dissatisfied with her performance and had her walked out. As her employer, he was perfectly within his rights to do so.



Wrong. Performers perform under contract, unless the contract stated that she was not permitted to engage in any political speech, (believe me, it didn't) Ronstadt was perfectly within her rights to perform her act as she saw fit. Also, I am sure Ronstadt got paid. We don't know if Timmins had a right to revoke her lodging as we don't know what the contract stated.

Not to belabor the issue but the best performers bare their souls on stage. Not only do most of the better ones share their political views with the audience but they share many personal and intimate details with their audience as well. Most fans enjoy this. Unfortrunately, most who attended the Alladin concert were just taking advantage of a nice spiff that comes with their package and not Ronstadt fans at all. Sadly, the malcontent trash who created a scene ruined the night for those Ronstadt fans who did attend.


Good points

Anyone notice that all the reports say "some" 4500 leading some to believe that most of those 4500 protested, when it probably was only a hand full.

Also CNN has been running this story including it in the Whoopie story. Interestingly enough they don't include the story about Dennis Miller making gay comments about Kerry and Edwards.

So tell me about that "liberal"media again Rolling Eyes
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:13 pm
You contradict yourself right off the bat. First, you say that something wasn't in the contract, but later say that no one knows what is in the contract.

Then you suggest that you know the motives behind the audience that watched Ronstadt's performance. Like you know them personally. where you there? Did you see the show?
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:19 pm
Thanks Redheat, the article I posted clearly states that the audience was evenly divided. Look a little closer at this incident and you might see more than meets the eye. Is it possible that the struggling hotel was trying to drum up some publicity nad blew this event out of proportion? Also, Ronstadt has gotten more publicity from this incident than she has had in years. And there ain't no such thing as bad publicity. (Unless it's indictable) Smile
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Redheat
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:23 pm
Harper wrote:
Thanks Redheat, the article I posted clearly states that the audience was evenly divided. Look a little closer at this incident and you might see more than meets the eye. Is it possible that the struggling hotel was trying to drum up some publicity nad blew this event out of proportion? Also, Ronstadt has gotten more publicity from this incident than she has had in years. And there ain't no such thing as bad publicity. (Unless it's indictable) Smile


Laughing tis true, she will probably get all kinds of bookings at those evilliberalcommunistgodless conventions! Very Happy
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:25 pm
McGentrix wrote:
You contradict yourself right off the bat. First, you say that something wasn't in the contract, but later say that no one knows what is in the contract.

Then you suggest that you know the motives behind the audience that watched Ronstadt's performance. Like you know them personally. where you there? Did you see the show?


I can pretty much assure that there wasn't a clause in the contract about politcal speech. I am a perfromer and am familiar with standard contracts. That's just common sense. As far as the agreement for lodging that is a little harder to determine. Only one who thinks in black and white would think I contradicted myself. Try discerning the difference between general and specific when you read.
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:27 pm
McGentrix wrote:

Then you suggest that you know the motives behind the audience that watched Ronstadt's performance. Like you know them personally. where you there? Did you see the show?


I know audiences. It is my business to know audiences. Are you suggesting that the audience was composed of hard-core Ronstadt fans?
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:28 pm
We live in a dangerous world, despite the fact that you'd never know it listening to democrats and leftists.

Yes the democrats and leftists are the ones who gave us the colored paranoia warning system, you know the one that's accompanied by "We have good intelligence that something awful is about to happen but we don't know anything specific"

democrats and leftists have identified the axis of evil triplets, and allowed government agencies to monitor our library cards.

Perfect examples of a bunch of paranoid idiots all right.....
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:30 pm
What's the deal here that certain words are sponsored like monitor or CD?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:32 pm
Harper wrote:
McGentrix wrote:

Then you suggest that you know the motives behind the audience that watched Ronstadt's performance. Like you know them personally. where you there? Did you see the show?


I know audiences. It is my business to know audiences. Are you suggesting that the audience was composed of hard-core Ronstadt fans?


Are there any hardcore Linda Ronstadt fans? I doubt anyone was there that didn't wish to be there.
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:36 pm
Why not answer the question McG?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:37 pm
Quote:
[...]
The vehement reaction to Ronstadt's comments comes as something as a surprise, as the singer had been dedicating the song to Moore each night of the tour. The singer has been outspoken about her liberal views throughout her career and had a very public relationship with then-California Governor Jerry Brown in the Seventies.

In an interview that ran in the Las Vegas Review-Journal the day before the show, Ronstadt said that the reaction to her nightly Moore dedications had been mixed. "They say the country is evenly divided, and boy is that true," she said. "One half of the audience cheers and the other half boos."
[...]
source: RollingStone.com
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:38 pm
Harper wrote:
Funny too that people with $5 haircuts and 5 year-old TJ Maxx fashions would defend Republican ideals like doing away with the estate tax and tax breaks for the wealthy. I could never figure that one out.


Harper, if you get a chance read this book, it explains a lot

What's the Matter with Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America.
Thomas Frank
Metropolitan Books, 2004

This is not an anti Bush or Republican screed but an attempt to understand and explain the current political climate.
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Redheat
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:40 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Quote:
[...]
The vehement reaction to Ronstadt's comments comes as something as a surprise, as the singer had been dedicating the song to Moore each night of the tour. The singer has been outspoken about her liberal views throughout her career and had a very public relationship with then-California Governor Jerry Brown in the Seventies.

In an interview that ran in the Las Vegas Review-Journal the day before the show, Ronstadt said that the reaction to her nightly Moore dedications had been mixed. "They say the country is evenly divided, and boy is that true," she said. "One half of the audience cheers and the other half boos."
[...]
source: RollingStone.com



I'm sure CNN will conduct one of their news worthy polls about this. Rolling Eyes

Seems the details don't fit with the general reporting once again that damn liberal media at work screwing on of their own..........wait Shocked
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:42 pm
Harper wrote:
Why not answer the question McG?
Question
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:53 pm
Harper wrote:
McGentrix wrote:

Then you suggest that you know the motives behind the audience that watched Ronstadt's performance. Like you know them personally. where you there? Did you see the show?


I know audiences. It is my business to know audiences. Are you suggesting that the audience was composed of hard-core Ronstadt fans?


McG, you never answered this question. Responding to a question with another question is not an answer.
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:57 pm
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Harper
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 02:58 pm
dupe
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swolf
 
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Reply Tue 20 Jul, 2004 03:35 pm
Harper wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Sadly, the malcontent trash who created a scene ruined the night for those Ronstadt fans who did attend.


I mentioned this once before and you've gone on repeating this mantra at least twice as if you never saw the explanation. There WAS a concert at Wolf Trap at which Ronstadt/Moore fans and normal people were about evenly divided and Ronstadt's comments DID create a division between the two groups at that performance. There was no mention of any noticable number of people taking Ronstadt's side at the event in Vegas.

All indications are that Ronstadt created a scene and ruined the evening for the people in attendance at that event (Vegas).

Other than that, you look at the picture of Ronstadt in her youth and, yeah it's sad that anybody would let themselves totally go like that, but there's absolutely no law of physics which says that people over fifty HAVE to look like that. For instance:

http://www.patrickruffini.com/rice2008-sm.gif

See what I mean?
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