Bush Supporters' Aftermath Thread V

THE Iraq war has cost the US 50-60 times more than the Bush administration predicted and was a central cause of the sub-prime banking crisis threatening the world economy, according to Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz.
The former World Bank vice-president yesterday said the war had, so far, cost the US something like $US3trillion ($3.3 trillion) compared with the $US50-$US60-billion predicted in 2003.

How Good People Turn Evil, From Stanford to Abu Ghraib
By Kim Zetter 02.28.08 | 12:00 AM
As an expert witness in the defense of an Abu Ghraib guard, Philip Zimbardo had access to many images (NSFW) of abuse taken by the guards. His TED presentation puts together a short video of some of the unpublished photos, with sound effects added by Zimbardo. Many of the images are explicit and gruesome, depicting nudity, degradation, simulated sex acts and guards posing with corpses. Viewer discretion is advised.

MONTEREY, California -- Psychologist Philip Zimbardo has seen good people turn evil, and he thinks he knows why.

Zimbardo will speak Thursday afternoon at the TED conference, where he plans to illustrate his points by showing a three-minute video, obtained by Wired.com, that features many previously unseen photographs from the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq (disturbing content).

Same kooks, different medium.

On the theory that this thread has effectively run its course, I propose all the GOPers, Conservatives, moderates, fence sitters, and those who find Conservative topics interesting, resume the discussion HERE

Foxfyre on one of the older threads wrote:

On the theory that this thread has effectively run its course, I propose all the GOPers, Conservatives, moderates, fence sitters, and those who find Conservative topics interesting, resume the discussion HERE

Walter, I'm sure the anti-Bush folks would have found it without your help.

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Foxfyre on one of the older threads wrote:

On the theory that this thread has effectively run its course, I propose all the GOPers, Conservatives, moderates, fence sitters, and those who find Conservative topics interesting, resume the discussion HERE

Walter, I'm sure the anti-Bush folks would have found it without your help.

"We know who these advocates of so-called balance really have in their sights: shows hosted by people like Rush Limbaugh or James Dobson, or many of you here today. By insisting on so-called balance, they want to silence those they don't agree with. The truth of the matter is, they know they cannot prevail in the public debate of ideas. They don't acknowledge that you are the balance … The country should not be afraid of the diversity of opinions. After all, we're strengthened by diversity of opinions."

"If Congress truly supports the free and open exchange of ideas, then there is a way they can demonstrate that right now. Republicans have drafted legislation that would ban reinstatement of the so-called Fairness Doctrine.

Bush as political philosopher...I've always loved him in this role...

Quote:

"We know who these advocates of so-called balance really have in their sights: shows hosted by people like Rush Limbaugh or James Dobson, or many of you here today. By insisting on so-called balance, they want to silence those they don't agree with. The truth of the matter is, they know they cannot prevail in the public debate of ideas. They don't acknowledge that you are the balance … The country should not be afraid of the diversity of opinions. After all, we're strengthened by diversity of opinions."

"If Congress truly supports the free and open exchange of ideas, then there is a way they can demonstrate that right now. Republicans have drafted legislation that would ban reinstatement of the so-called Fairness Doctrine.

There's a good possibility something like the FD might again come up the pike. You chaps will piss about it and repeat the cliches that Bush repeats above rather than go to the trouble of getting yourselves educated. Pity, because you're hurting yourselves, your families and your neighbors.

Bush as political philosopher...I've always loved him in this role...

Quote:

"We know who these advocates of so-called balance really have in their sights: shows hosted by people like Rush Limbaugh or James Dobson, or many of you here today. By insisting on so-called balance, they want to silence those they don't agree with. The truth of the matter is, they know they cannot prevail in the public debate of ideas. They don't acknowledge that you are the balance … The country should not be afraid of the diversity of opinions. After all, we're strengthened by diversity of opinions."

"If Congress truly supports the free and open exchange of ideas, then there is a way they can demonstrate that right now. Republicans have drafted legislation that would ban reinstatement of the so-called Fairness Doctrine.

There's a good possibility something like the FD might again come up the pike. You chaps will piss about it and repeat the cliches that Bush repeats above rather than go to the trouble of getting yourselves educated. Pity, because you're hurting yourselves, your families and your neighbors.

JTT wrote: All they want is an audience of dittoheads.


Yup! Those who disagreed with Bush lost their jobs. Look at all the generals that became "yes" men, because they feared for their own skins, and sacrificed the soldiers is such despicable ways such as not providing the proper training or equipment to fight the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. When Bush and this administration kept repeating that when the generals asked for more troops, they will get them was never challenged even though most knew there were no more troops to be had. Look at the results; many are serving multiple duty in war zones that endangers their lives even though the generals know that is not good for the soldiers.

It's disgusting!