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General Won't Appologize For Saying Homosexuality Is Immoral

 
 
michael1
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 11:23 am
Setanta wrote:
This guy is really out there in la-la land. First he alleges that the article does not name the source of the poll. When i point out that it does indeed name the source poll, he comes out with this "aha! Gotcha" routine as though that's what he meant all along. He is really piss poor at rhetorical exchange.


What? I maintained my stance on Poll #5, that NO SOURCE is given, however I demonstrated above that the other 4 polls that we're not talking about used NON-CNN sources such as Gallop, Time, and a 1977 poll. You obviously didn't read my post, I said NO SOURCE for poll #5, both times. I still maintain there is NO SOURCE for the third time now, while the other 4 polls do name NON-CNN sources, unlike you claim.

Setanta, I find you and CNN GUILTY of conspiracy to commit fraud, racketeering with corrupt organizations such as CNN and NAMBLA, of libel, slander, sedition, treason, committing terroristic threats upon all heterosexuals, ethnic intimidation, post traumatic stress syndrome, occupation & subjugation of citizens of a foreign territory, crimes against humanity in promoting acts against creation and forcing our children to watch them, and many other injuries and other damages through your fraudulent reporting and lies you think are protected under the first amendment. You you and CNN are committing such crimes against other citizens, you have sought to conspire together with CNN in perpetrating these crimes against myself and others. You are hereby ordered to make amends and repay back four times worth of damages inflicted. Not just earplugs for all our innocent children.

Your and CNN's restitution will be giving back 20% of your income to the true conservative Christian community until all these social ills are repaired.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 11:44 am
I find you guilty of slander, libel, and of being just a garden variety liar.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 11:53 am
Michael, I agree with you. However, you forgot to mention that Set and CNN engaged in chemical warfare (or at least conspired to do so).
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 12:22 pm
Oh thanks buddy . . . next you'll be telling him about the rape camps we set up for the budding Christian virgins . . .
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Advocate
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 12:37 pm
Do you think that Cheney would agree with the general?
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username
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 07:20 pm
Michael, the poll in question, as you have apparently not noticed, is by CNN/OPINION RESEARCH CORPORATION. All CNN's polls are now done by ORC. They have been providing polling and marketing information to business, industry, and the media for close to seventy years now.

Of course it is a poll about opinion. DUH! What else would you call it when you are asking what people think about something? That is, by definition, an opinion. When you spout the guff you do, that is your OPINION.

If you had done even a minimal amount of research, you would have found that the May 4-6 poll, as should have been obvious to you from the context, was also done by CNN/Opinion Research Corporation, and in fact the results were as CNN described. If you are completely incapable of finding this out on your own, I invite your to go to www.PollingReport.com
where the results are summarized, and they are as CNN stated.

There has been a sizable shift in the last few years to acceptance of homosexuality in this country, whether you recognize it or not. You're getting increasingly isolated in your bias. Have you noticed people edging away from you lately when you started talking like you talk here? That's why.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 07:24 pm
michael1 wrote:
At least they call it an OPINION poll, not a factual or statistical poll


Michael, do you know what the word poll means?
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old europe
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 07:56 pm
ehBeth wrote:
Michael, do you know what the word poll means?


That's what flowers do when they practice their pro-homosexual delusional zealot activism, innit?
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username
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jul, 2007 09:33 pm
Is it what he has up his nether orifice?
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michael1
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2007 01:49 pm
Advocate wrote:
Michael, I agree with you. However, you forgot to mention that Set and CNN engaged in chemical warfare (or at least conspired to do so).


Oh that's in another thread. Where Setanta is promoting one of the most harmful toxins effecting humans, aluminum phosphate. You never want to get even a little bit of aluminum in you, not even orally, yet they inject huge amounts of it directly & deeply into little girls' pelvises along with a chance in a million "cure" for supposedly vaccinating against a 1/3 of a virus that supposedly causes one out of 50 types of CERVICAL cancers.

17 girls have died in clinical trials and 85% of 1200 recipients have had severe side effects ranging from myalgia, asthma, facial paralysis, seizures, loss of consciousness and Guillain-Barre syndrome. According to NVIC.org , shown in verified medical reports on the NVIC's (national authority vaccine safety) website.

They get 675 micrograms of reactive aluminum in the 3-shot series. This isn't talked about on any news site because their biggest shares are in the stock markets of the BIG PHARMA , especially in these fraudulent vaccines, which have never been proven to prevent cancer, only to CAUSE nearly all the worst diseases. Besides the PRIVATE FEDERAL RESERVE the money system of America's top private shareholders which is public information own all of big pharma, as well as most of the media, and Big Oil. That's all public info, no conspiracy-THEORY, major conspiracy facts these tyrants all must be proud of. Otherwise they think they're so powerful it wont matter what information gets out there.

That thread was started here: http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=97009&highlight=
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2007 01:51 pm
The Christian capacity for lies is bottomless.

I have never responded in the linked thread.

Michael, therefore, is a liar.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2007 01:53 pm
michael1 wrote:
At least they call it an OPINION poll, not a factual or statistical poll


Michael, do you know what the word poll means?
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michael1
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2007 01:55 pm
Setanta wrote:
The Christian capacity for lies is bottomless.

I have never responded in the linked thread.

Michael, therefore, is a liar.



Then Sorry on that one Setanta. What threw me off was, I must have thought Walter Hinteler had your same avatar, but yours does change & I'm not good with faces.
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michael1
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2007 01:56 pm
ehBeth wrote:
michael1 wrote:
At least they call it an OPINION poll, not a factual or statistical poll


Michael, do you know what the word poll means?


Like I said, if you only poll 1,000 homosexuals in areas where they're known to be rampant, not in 99% of America which is FAR FAR Away from those big cities homos and CNN hangs out at, what can that prove?

Also I still think it is fishy with the May 5th poll, not listing the immediate source, and only having a picture of a rainbow flag next to the poll. Not selective? How could it not be?

Only with a lot more contestants in where the other 99% of americans live , FAR from those metropolitan areas!
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2007 02:12 pm
michael1 wrote:
ehBeth wrote:
michael1 wrote:
At least they call it an OPINION poll, not a factual or statistical poll


Michael, do you know what the word poll means?


Like I said, if you only poll 1,000 homosexuals in areas where they're known to be rampant, not in 99% of America which is FAR FAR Away from those big cities homos and CNN hangs out at, what can that prove?

Also I still think it is fishy with the May 5th poll, not listing the immediate source, and only having a picture of a rainbow flag next to the poll. Not selective? How could it not be?

Only with a lot more contestants in where the other 99% of americans live , FAR from those metropolitan areas!


Only 21% of Americans live in rural areas. 79% live in urban or 'metropolitan' areas.

You don't understand much about population density, do you? You are a minority out there in the country, not the representative of 'true America.'

Cycloptichorn
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2007 02:13 pm
ehBeth wrote:
michael1 wrote:
At least they call it an OPINION poll, not a factual or statistical poll


Michael, do you know what the word poll means?


forget the blah blah blah

just answer the question
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michael1
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2007 02:20 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
michael1 wrote:
ehBeth wrote:
michael1 wrote:
At least they call it an OPINION poll, not a factual or statistical poll


Michael, do you know what the word poll means?


Like I said, if you only poll 1,000 homosexuals in areas where they're known to be rampant, not in 99% of America which is FAR FAR Away from those big cities homos and CNN hangs out at, what can that prove?

Also I still think it is fishy with the May 5th poll, not listing the immediate source, and only having a picture of a rainbow flag next to the poll. Not selective? How could it not be?

Only with a lot more contestants in where the other 99% of americans live , FAR from those metropolitan areas!


Only 21% of Americans live in rural areas. 79% live in urban or 'metropolitan' areas.

You don't understand much about population density, do you? You are a minority out there in the country, not the representative of 'true America.'

Cycloptichorn


Depends what you call urban or metropolitan. Homo havens are only in places like Atlanta, Los Angeles, New York, etc. I doubt CNN ventured far from the airport cities to conduct such an amazing poll. I bet they only polled left wing radicals ONLINE, who are the bulk of computer nuts, only into pornography , online all the time etc. These chatrooms online are the proof that conservatives stay offline. Hey many churches not only say we shouldn't own a TV, also a computer can be much worse evil. 90% of Americans are Chrsitian bible believers. In a real nationwide poll recently conducted by gallup poll, said something like 70% of Americans thought Christian prayers should be brought back to the schools, not prayers to a generic nameless god. Like 80% of those polled said they want prayers back in schools.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2007 02:29 pm
michael1 wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
michael1 wrote:
ehBeth wrote:
michael1 wrote:
At least they call it an OPINION poll, not a factual or statistical poll


Michael, do you know what the word poll means?


Like I said, if you only poll 1,000 homosexuals in areas where they're known to be rampant, not in 99% of America which is FAR FAR Away from those big cities homos and CNN hangs out at, what can that prove?

Also I still think it is fishy with the May 5th poll, not listing the immediate source, and only having a picture of a rainbow flag next to the poll. Not selective? How could it not be?

Only with a lot more contestants in where the other 99% of americans live , FAR from those metropolitan areas!


Only 21% of Americans live in rural areas. 79% live in urban or 'metropolitan' areas.

You don't understand much about population density, do you? You are a minority out there in the country, not the representative of 'true America.'

Cycloptichorn


Depends what you call urban or metropolitan. Homo havens are only in places like Atlanta, Los Angeles, New York, etc. I doubt CNN ventured far from the airport cities to conduct such an amazing poll. I bet they only polled left wing radicals ONLINE, who are the bulk of computer nuts, only into pornography , online all the time etc. These chatrooms online are the proof that conservatives stay offline. Hey many churches not only say we shouldn't own a TV, also a computer can be much worse evil. 90% of Americans are Chrsitian bible believers. In a real nationwide poll recently conducted by gallup poll, said something like 70% of Americans thought Christian prayers should be brought back to the schools, not prayers to a generic nameless god. Like 80% of those polled said they want prayers back in schools.


It's hard to have discussions with you, because you don't differentiate between facts and your opinions.

It doesn't 'depend' on what you call Urban or Rural. Those are very well defined terms, and the vast majority of Americans live in Urban areas. And homosexuals live everywhere, even in the country. I bet there are many who live by you.

Cycloptichorn
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2007 11:53 am
Michael, if you, like Cheney, had a homosexual child, would you slaughter it as prescribed by the bible?
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michael1
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jul, 2007 05:42 pm
Advocate wrote:
Michael, if you, like Cheney, had a homosexual child, would you slaughter it as prescribed by the bible?


I think my child will be like me, never even hearing what homosexuality is until over the age of 16 and had fallen in love with what GOD designed.

Here's a good one for you, more PROOF those who engage in sodomite homosexuality aren't born that way:

WND Exclusive 'Gay'-rights leader quits homosexuality
Rising star in movement says God liberated him from lifestyle
Posted: July 3, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Art Moore
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


Michael Glatze with Matthew Shepard's mother, Judy Shepard (Harvard University photo)
He was a rising star in the "gay rights" movement, but Michael Glatze now declares not only has he given up activism - he's no longer a homosexual.

Glatze - who had become a frequent media source as founding editor of Young Gay America magazine - tells the story of his transformation in an exclusive column published today by WND.

Although Glatze cut himself off from the homosexual community about a year and a half ago, he says the column likely will surprise some people.

"This will actually be news to anybody I used to relate to," he told WND.

The radical change in his life, Glatze recalls, began with inner "promptings" he now attributes to God.

"I hope I can share my story," he said. "I feel strongly God has put me here for a reason. Even in the darkest days of late-night parties, substance abuse and all kinds of things - when I felt like, 'Why am I here, what am I doing?' - there was always a voice there.

"I didn't know what to call it, or if I could trust it, but it said 'hold on.'"

(Story continues below)

Glatze said he became aware of homosexual feelings at about the age of 14 and publicly declared himself "gay" at age 20. Finally, after a decade in which his leadership role in the homosexual activist world grew - but alongside it, a mysterious inner conflict - he says he finally was "liberated."

In fact, he writes in his WND column today, "'coming out' from under the influence of the homosexual mindset was the most liberating, beautiful and astonishing thing I've ever experienced in my entire life."

Before "coming out" in his column today, Glatze contacted WND Managing Editor David Kupelian after reading his book, "The Marketing of Evil, which Glatze said "has given me so much help in my process of healing from the profound influences of evil in our current society."

"There is nothing that would give me more pleasure," he wrote to Kupelian, "than to say the Truth about 'homosexuality' and atone for my sins in that regard."

Glatze's transformation calls to mind that of another prominent "gay" magazine publisher who also has renounced her former lifestyle. Lesbian activist Charlene Cothran, longtime publisher of Venus magazine, became a Christian and gave her magazine a new mission "to encourage, educate and assist those who desire to leave a life of homosexuality." She adds: "Our ultimate mission is to win souls for Christ, and to do so by showing love to all God's people."

In his column, Glatze doesn't mince words, calling homosexual sex purely "lust-based," meaning it can never fully satisfy.

"It's a neurotic process rather than a natural, normal one," he writes. "Normal is normal - and has been called normal for a reason."


After becoming editor of Young Gay America magazine at age 22, Glatze received numerous awards and recognition, including the National Role Model Award from the major homosexual-rights organization Equality Forum. Media gravitated toward him, leading to appearances on PBS television and MSNBC and quotes in a cover story in Time magazine called "The Battle Over Gay Teens."

He produced, with the help of PBS affiliates and Equality Forum, the first major documentary film to address homosexual teen suicide, "Jim In Bold," which toured the world and received numerous "best in festival" awards. Young Gay America's photo exhibit, telling the story of young people across North America, toured Europe, Canada and parts of the U.S.


Time, Oct. 10, 2006, quotes Glatze as expert

In 2004, Glatze moved from San Francisco to Halifax in eastern Canada where his partner, Young Gay America magazine's publisher, had family. The magazine, he said, sought to provide a "virtuous counterpart" to the other newsstand media aimed at homosexual youth.

But Glatze contends "the truth was, YGA was as damaging as anything else out there, just not overtly pornographic, so more 'respected.'"

In 2005, Glatze was featured in a panel with Judy Shepard, mother of slain homosexual Matthew Shepard, at the prestigious JFK Jr. Forum at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.

"It was after viewing my words on a videotape of that 'performance,'" he writes, "that I began to seriously doubt what I was doing with my life and influence."

"Knowing no one who I could approach with my questions and my doubts, I turned to God," he says. "I'd developed a growing relationship with God, thanks to a debilitating bout with intestinal cramps caused by the upset stomach-inducing behaviors I'd been engaged in."

Toward the end of his time with Young Gay America, Glatze said, colleagues began to notice he was going through some kind of religious experience.

Just before leaving, not fully realizing what he was doing, he wrote on his office computer his thoughts, ending with the declaration: "Homosexuality is death, and I choose life."

"I was so nervous, it was like I wasn't even writing it myself," he said.

Inexplicably, he told WND, he left the words on the screen for others to see.

"People who looked at it were stunned; they thought it was crazy," he said.

But he left his co-workers wondering about where he stood, never having fully explained his decision to step down.

Looking back on his old lifestyle, Glatze told WND whenever he had a sense that he was doing something wrong, "I would I just attribute it to, 'that's just the way life is.'"

"If ever I were to question anything, [my colleagues] would say, 'You're such an idealist.'"

Glatze said he thought opponents of homosexual activism were "mean and crazy, and they wanted to hurt me."

"I thought they were out to get me," he said. "They made me really, really mad - and scared, I think. I wanted them to go away."

Glatze said he couldn't allow himself to think they were sincere in their beliefs.

But he now has deep respect for a Christian aunt who disapproved of his lifestyle.

She "was never judgmental, but always firm," he said.

Read Michael Glatze's WND column today, "How a 'gay rights' leader became straight"
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