General Won't Appologize For Saying Homosexuality Is Immoral

They already had accused Jesus of all sorts of evil. He was one of the only ones that were counter-sexist and helped women when all were against them. Only in TRUE ISRAELITE culture are there QUEENS and women all held in such high regard, even in 300BC women were Doctors, lawyers, soldiers judges, and in some ways had more rights than men in Western Countries, these were the laws, and have continued to be the laws. Only non-Christians have made up sexism, and those who hate God and Nature have made up lies. I guess they will all feel better if they too become transvestites? When people aren't from such a Christian culture from one of the Christian nations that's where all this confusion comes in trying to compare apples with oranges. If you know where you're from and truly what your culture is, which is what this is all about, then you dont have such confusion.

Woman becoming transvestites? You are uptight, your underwear is all in a twist, and you need to pop a Wellbutrin or at least a drink to lighten up. C Figure out that I wasn't being entirely serious with those statements and you should have guessed with my comment on shrimp cocktails. Name all the woman Jesus helped who everyone was against. What men in Western Countries in 600 BC -- you mean the Mayans? Only non-Christians made up sexism. A very broad statement -- in this country the Southern Babtists and the Catholic church are doing quite well promoting sexism.

You still haven't described all those arrested transvestite haters who are in the 10 story building. It's also not necessary to shout out true Israelites and queens, of course depending on what kind of queen you mean.

No problem if you're interested. Everyone knows the story of the woman caught in the act of adultery and everyone was going to stone her. The woman at the well, the canaanite woman who all tried to send away, Jesus healed her daughter. He looked out for the widdows, the orphans, healed those who were sick.

I'm unaware of any women Jesus was sexist against, He had women around him all the time and gave them more honor than the fake-jewish pharisees of the Talmudic anti-Mosaic (anti-biblical) False Jewish traditions that Jesus also denounced.

Anyway, although most would call that insulting for someone to say Jesus was sexist , I will remain open minded as I think it must be a misunderstanding , but you can show me which verses because I'm open to learn, and we can clarify the misunderstanding, as I have gone over all the verses myself many times and found no hint of sexism but promotion of women. This has been at the heart of Christian culture.

Irish & Druidic law in 300BC I was referring to, it came from the identical culture of Israel where they worshiped the one Triune God, and kept identical traditions the Israelites kept, because Jeremiah fulfilled the prophecy God told him to move the Kingdom of Israel North West to a New Land. The form of government the Germans & Celts had in 100BC was an Israelite form of Government and way of life. They didn't eat pork or other biblically unclean foods. Here's some more on the two cultures (Western Celtic/Germanic and Israelite) being one and the same ISRAELITE CULTURE:

in 391 AD Socrates said ALL of Europeans everywhere kept the Saturday Israelite Sabbath.

In Caswell's (1890) "History of England" it states, "Druidical rites and ceremonies were almost identical with Mosaic ritual." Also "the Chief (Arch) Druid and the Israelite High Priest were similarly arrayed--even to the Breast Plate of Judgment with the twelve stones representing the Tribes of Israel and the Holy Name [YAHWEH] on the headgear."

Charles Hubert (AD 1825), in his "Religions of Britain", writes, "so near is the resemblance between the Druidical religion in Britain and the Patriarchal religion of the Hebrews that we would hesitate NOT to pronounce their origin the SAME"

STONEHENGE AND DRUIDISM by CAPT, some Excerpts on Yesu

"The Druids revered the oak tree as a symbol of Almighty God, as did the Hebrew Patriarchs. It was underneath the oaks of Mamre that Abraham "dewlt" a long time; where he erected an altar to God, and where he received the three angels. It was underneath an oak that Jacob hid the idols of his children (Gen 35:4) because oaks were held to be sacred and inviolate.

Because mistletoe grew upon the oak, it became sacred to the Druids and was held symbolic of the coming Deliverer or "Branch." Misletoe was known as the "All Heal," a title which bears a strange resemblance to the words of Malachi's prophecy concerning the "Sun" who should "rise with healing in His wings." (note Yahshua means God who saves, heals or delivers). This "Branch" was not only foretold by the prophets of ancient Israel (in many places) but was sung also by the poets of classic antiquity. Virgil mentions "the golden branch," and Homer speaks of the "golden rod" or "branch." A parallel can be seen in the writings of three of the Old Testament Prophets - referring to the coming Messiah as "the Branch."
It is of interest to note that the Druids revered a form of the cross. It was their custom to search diligently for a large, handsome oak tree, having two large armlike branches. When viewed in conjunction with the trunk the tree they formed a cross. This "cross" was then consecrated by cutting characters for the word "Hesus," spelled "Yesu," upon the right branch. Upon the middle trunk they cut the word, "Taranus," upon the left branch, "Belenus," and over them all the word "Than," meaning God.
"Hesus" or Yesu was the supreme God whom they worshipped as the great "All-Heal" and they believed in Him as the "Saviour" of the world. In both Druidic religion and the Hebrew religion of patriarchal times we can see a parallel preparation for the coming of Christ….."

The unity of the Godhead was the very soul and centre of
Druidism, and this unity was a Trinity.
Procoius of Caesarea, A.D. 530, states :

"Jesus, Taran, Bel - One only God. All Druids acknowledge one
Lord God alone."(Origen on "Ezekile." (Richardson's "Godwin de
Presulibis."))

The indisputable fact is that the Druids proclaimed
to the universe, 'The Lord our God is One!' WHEN CHRISTIANITY
PREACHED JESUS AS GOD, DRUIDISM HAD THE MOST FAMILIAR NAME OF ITS
OWN DEITY PRESENTED TO IT!!

In the ancient British tongue Jesus had never assumed its Greek,
Latin or Hebrew form, but remains the pure Druidic Yesu. It is
singular that the ancient Briton never changed the name of the
God he and his forefathers worshipped, nor has he ever worshipped
but one God.(Dr.Henry, "History of Great Britain," I, 2.)

In the Cornish folk-lore whole sentences were treasured up
(without being understood), and when written down were found to
he pure Hebrew, Three of these rendered into English are:

"Lift up your heads, O ye gates, and be ye lift up ye everlasting
doors, and the King of Glory shall come in"; "Who is this King of
Glory?"; "The Lord Yesu, He is the King of Glory."(Rolleston, Mazzaroth,
113.)


Amazing!!!

Many people think that our beliefs originated with the invention of the printing press, as many of our books can only be found as early as the 1700's. This article shows you without a doubt that our beliefs were strong held within Christendom (Western Nations) perpetually.


You can go to Ireland to this day and find Jeremiah's dated grave which is a sacred part of Irish history when he transplanted the kingdom almost 3,000 years ago.
Ireland, Scotland, and England also trace the Coronation Stone as being David's Throne which Jeremiah brought over. It moved from Ireland, to Scotland to England. It is interesting to know it was in 1296, the English monarch, Edward I (infamous as the "hammer of the Scots," and nemesis of Scottish national hero William Wallace) invaded Scotland. Among the booty that Edward's army removed was the legendary Stone, which the English king apparently regarded as an important symbol of Scottish sovereignty. The present Coronation Throne was made to house the stone in 1301.

We also know in the Scottish Declaration of Independence, they once again claimed their origin from Israel

Robert the Bruce with signature of 25 nobles to this record delivered to Pope John the 22nd shows not only a record of their origin, but indicated the route of their previous migrations from Palestine as the "not so lost" Tribes of Israel. Dated the 6th of April, A.D. 1320. It may be seen in a shallow glass case in the Register House at Edinburgh. (William "the Braveheart" Wallace fought shoulder to shoulder with these men for this declaration of independence.)

This is acknowledged worldwide as a legal document, confirmed by the Pope, that proves the ancestry of the Scottish people to be the TRUE Descendants of the Israel of the Bible!

Israel left the Palestine sandbox by 800 BC to be the multitude of mighty nations "NORTH WEST" fulfilling

Bible Prophecy. Modern Jews have no relation to Israel, and are alien species, Jesus denounced their claims of being Abraham's legitimate seed. (John 8:44).

There are over 100 marks of identification the bible lists for us so we know who true israel is and who the modern canaanites are. 100% of the israel marks only describe the Western Christian Nations, while 100% of the canaanite prophecies apply to those filthy little kikes out there in palestine. Rev. 2:9 and Rev 3:9 say they are the synagogue of satan, they are liars and not who they claim to be, and it is a blasphemy to claim to be the tribe of judah. Remember there are 12 tribes of Israel, and only 1 tribe was named Judah. (the word has been known to all in all generations)

Now lets get into some more of the historical evidences right now:

The national Triads of Wales, for example, which are according to Matthew Arnold and Max Muller, the "oldest literature in the oldest living language in Europe," and in them they show very clearly all the main distinct features of our Christian faith, they already held, which stems from the true Israelite people, the belief in one supreme God, the belief in the branch that will save us Jesus Christ, the 3 parts of man, spirit, soul and body. and in this most ancient writing, the eastern origin of the British race is stated. Our whole main belief system, the same faith that is in the bible was already being practiced because they are a part of the true Israelites of the bible.

St. Patrick was another main teacher of all the dietary laws, of true Israel, of the biblical feast and sabbath days, and was famous for driving all the snakes out of Ireland. Those were the jews, as Christ called all the jews a race of serpents.

The supposed myths of odin and thor beating the dragon and serpents are not myths at all, but are true stories of Scandinavian Kings of the Royal Tribe of Judah, and they are listed in the genealogy trees of all the monarchs of Europe, especially today's Queen of Great Britiain.

One of the greatest testimonies to the spiritual character of the religion of our forefathers is the fact that no graven image or inscribed stone of any kind has ever been discovered of Pre-Roman origin in Great Britain. Among the relics of the Stone, Bronze, and Iron Ages in the British Antiquities Department of the British Museum, there is no evidence whatever of idolatrous worship, as we find in the Assyrian, Greek and Roman Galleries. Not that the primitive religion is unrepresented, for numerous incense-burners of clay on the shelves witness to the common use of the Divine ordinance of burning incense (symbolic of prayer) in the Druidic religion as in the Patriarchal worship of the people of the bible. (the TRUE chosen people).

The Assyrian is a very small percentage of the Nordic race, and makes up less than 5% of the Nordic culture.

You have to go to Greece or Assyria to find anyone worshipping any pagan gods as shown in the British Museum showing this proven in every age of archealogy.


In all ancient languages the word for god or gods is the same word RULER. So anyone who rules can be called a God, this is the same in the mother languages of Greek, Latin, Aramaic, and Hebrew as well.

However, An example TODAY is the English all call their masters & Kings "Lords". This is the same word used over 7,000 times in the bible for God, the same word "lord". I believe most languages also use the same meaning of "Lord".

Odin is well proven to be a historical King, and not a myth. Even George Washington of America who prepared to be the first King traced himself 53rd generation from Odin, through the Zarah branch of Judah. This is a record you can find today in the US Library of Congress. They wanted to make him King, but instead he decided to use the motto "No King But Jesus" as the motto of the revolutionary war.

This was the fullfilment of bible prophecy when God originally ordained Israel to all be sovereign citizens, a royal priesthood. But 11 of the tribes were in complete rebellion against God, so one tribe was setup to be the rulers, who later migrated to parts of Germany, Ireland and Scotland. The entire nations of Scotland and Ireland are of the royal tribe Judah. The monarchies are their ancient elected officials and their firstborn inheritances and throneship follows Godly tradition. Perhaps one day we may need to revert back to the royal power dictatorships that saved Europe many times. Governments were overthrown by confederations of lower nobles, such as William of Orange organized with the founding of the Dutch nation. The way they started the nation back in 1581 with their new constitution, and separation from Spain was all successfully established by expelling all the jews in 1582. Later William of Orange was assasinated but he was considered the founding father of Holland. However his children forgot how he did it and what they endured to achieve these things. Not only did they have to fight the Roman Pagan Catholics, but also had Jews, and the Army of Spain to fight off. In which they were successful because they were a protestant Christian people of God, of the Israelite Nations!

Now getting back to the historical teachings of Israel Identity,

We know our people used nature as their bible, as the ancient druid religion shows us as built huge megalith & stonehenge monuments , and always had thousands of small ones so people knew the zodiac , the teachings of the creator through the stars, and the sun, and the serpent pathes we must overcome. These are the popular views concerning the ancient Druidic teachings. Anyone doubting the cross over from druids to christians should look at the Methodist tradition of the fiery cross although Methodist churches are in England its when you go to Wales that you see every village has a Methodist chapel and all other churches are the minority and they still have the fiery cross tradition (symbolic now)which is a cross over from the druidic transformation into Christianity.


In the national Triads of Wales, the "oldest literature in the oldest living language in Europe," in them they state the eastern origin of the British race, as well as our whole main belief system in the same faith that is in the bible.

Some more quotes from history, here's Cornelius Tacitus (AD 55-117) the Roman historian, in his classic Germania, related:

"I concur in opinion with such as suppose the people of Germany never to have mingled by intermarriages with other nations, but to have remained a people pure, and independent, and resembling none but themselves. Hence, among such a mighty multitude of men, the same make and form is found in all, eyes stern and blue, yellow hair, huge bodies...abounding in flocks and herds...they rejoice...their only...most desired riches...to none else but the Priests is it allowed to exercise correction, or to inflict bonds or stripes. Nor when the Priests do this, is the same considered as a punishment, or arising from orders of the general, but from the immediate command of the Deity, him whom they believe accompany them in war.... Yet the laws of matrimony are severely observed there.... They therefore live in a state of chastity well secured; corrupted by no seducing shows and public diversions, by no irritations from banqueting.... Amongst a people so numerous, adultery is extremely rare.... In social feasts and deeds of hospitality, no nation on earth was more liberal and abounding. To refuse admitting under your roof any man whatsoever [of their people], is held wicked and inhuman. Every man erciees every comer, and treats him with repasts as large as his ability can possibly furnish.... Their food is very simple; wild fruit, fresh venison, or coagulated milk... To the practice of usury and increasing money by interest they are strangers...."

(Clearly, these early Germanic peoples were the descendents of the Israelites. Their racial type and racial purity (Genesis 24:3-4, 37, 38; 27:46; 28:1; Lamentations 4:7), their righteous laws (Exodus 21; Leviticus 26; Deuteronomy 28), their diet (Genesis 1:30; 18:8; Exodus 3:8.... .....

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their agrarian lifestyle, the priesthood governing the community as from the mouth of God Himself, rejection of the ways of the heath peoples around them, choosing instead a simple and righteous lifestyle--all these point to not only an eastern origin, but an Israelite origin.)

Abraham Ortels (Ortelius) (1527-1598), the Flemish-born, German carographer and geographer (who produced the first modern atlas) and court geographer for Philip IIof Spain, recorded "the ten tribes of Israel took the name Gauthei, which means people of God. The name Gauthei was later changed to Goth.") (note that occurded in 700BC according to all sources)

As you read Ortelius recorded more than 300 years ago that Israelites migrating through Europe took the name Gauthei, which means "the people of God" (shortened to Goth), and that Tacitus called them "Teutones Gothones." The Goths founded the Pannonian Empire, ruled Italy for a time, and founded a Kingdom ni Spain. Ferinand and Isabella of Spain, as well as many of the leaders of the arts in Italy (Raphael, Vivaldi, etc.) descended from the Goths.

Even the First Century Jewish Historian Josephus, who wrote in the reign of Vespasian, records a speech of King Agrippa to the Jews wherein he exhorted them to submit to the Romans and expostulated with them in the following terms:

"What! Do you stretch your hopes beyond the river Euphrates? Do any one of you think that your fellow-tribes will come to your aid out of Adiabene? Besides, if they would, the Parthians would not permit them" (Josephus, Antiq., 11 , 5 : 2).

We learn from this oration, delivered to the Jews themselves, and by a king of the Jews, that the Ten Tribes even at that time were captive beyond the Euphrates and under the Parthians. Josephus himself tells us that so late as his time (latter part of the 1st century of the Christian era) the Ten Tribes "were still beyond the Euphrates, an immense multitude and not to be estimated by numbers (Josephus, Antiq., 15, 2 : 2; Wars, 2 , 16 : 4). That these tribes had not returned even in the time of Jesus is evident from his various utterances. He spoke of them as "lost'' (Matt., 18 : 11), "the lost sheep of the house of Israel'' (Matt., 15 : 24), and "as the children of God that were scattered abroad'' (John, 11 : 52). He proclaimed that his mission was "to seek and save that which was lost'' (Luke, 19 : 10). James, brother of Jesus, addressed his Epistle "to the ten tribes which were scattered abroad'' (Jas., 1 : 1). He addressed the twelve tribes because all the descendants of Judah and Benjamin had not returned to Jerusalem.

All taken from the site and forum of http://Christsassembly.com , hope it helps if you truly are one with an open mind & heart. As Jesus told us "those that continue in His word will know the truth, and the truth shall make them free" (john 8:31-32) You'll make it, as we are all not worthy, and only the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ for our sins makes us spiritually justified to be His Ambassadors in the earth. His Ambassadors of Love , not the perverted fake doing whatever feels good, even if it is playing on the freeway kind of love. God knows what is better for us.

Jesus is the Alpha and Omega (Beginning & End), meaning the same Creator-God that formed the universes and made the stars with his fingers, and all the abundance of life you see on this earth. It was Jesus' literal finger that wrote the 10 commandments on the tablets of stone for Moses. He is the one God, YAHWEH in a Flesh Body and had no ability to sin or fall short in any corruption or perversion.

I'll admit there were no transvestites in the Twelve Apostles, but unless you want to believe Dan Brown, there were no woman. That's has nothing to do with healing woman, saving woman from stoning, but those are meager examples in scripture. You have avoided all of my pointed questions, state with tongue-in-cheek or not, by going on a didactic, uninteresting trip through the Bible. I've already read the book. I'm not interested in your interpretation.

I still think maybe it was a misunderstanding, especially since you still haven't shown me where He did something "sexist", what's your definition of sexist anyway? Lets shed some light on this, and not use knee-jerk propaganda terms. You still haven't even attempted to show me one example of sexism practiced by Jesus, though you haven't defined what sexism is to you.

Christians are to always be changing and moldable to the word of the almighty God. Please show such verses & what it means to you. We're supposed to be open to always learn & change to live by God's Actual Word.

Remember in Israel they had women who were Queens & Judges Governing the entire nation, shown in many places in scripture. Some also were prophetess priests etc. Some of the gentile women who weren't raised under a biblical Israelite upbringing were given ways to keep order in church and that was to speak of things they're sensitive about with their husbands at home rather than interrupt the entire worship services to ask during bible study & teaching etc. Otherwise there would be 100 women asking questions. A study of the way they ran the synagogues / churches shows they had open discussion, but to those it was so foreign there had to be some structure or it would have all fallen apart. Nowadays we dont have that biblical church structure of interaction with the speakers, so even the men can never learn God's laws, let alone share it with their families.

You time-traveling in a blur and still haven't sufficiently answered any questions but come up with, you want a dictionary definition of sexist or sexism. Go look it up in Merriam-Webster yourself if you are unclear. Are you now interpreting the dictionary? You have your own definition? I don't see it? You answer questions with more interpretation of the Bible. It's not the only book in the world and still remains in the library in the Dewey Decimal System as Mythology. Who were these Queens and judges during Jesus' time?

Where are the twelve (you like that number), not joking now about architecture, verifiable cases (I don't want your stories) of anyone being arrested and prosecuted for not hiring a transvestite.

Did you ever see a picture of the Last Supper? It looks like a gay confab to me.

I never said whether I have them or not. I said that even "IF" I were to ever show you that you'd take the transvestites side.



I do want to know "in what ways" you think it was sexist, in WHICH places Jesus was sexist so I can learn. Yet you have just shown me you think it is all myth anyway, and you're willing to be that the creator is unable to preserve His word for His people, even with all the billions of angels at his disposal, that this world is not a test for the next life. You probably also place all your bets on the "theory" of evolution, which has and can only be called "theory" in any school because they're still waiting for the first evidence to surface. The bible agrees completely with science, and it says in there that there were not only one global flood, and not one rebellion & war with the angels, and not only one gap time periods of millions years of civilization before Adam (man made in God's image) was placed on the earth. Also known as the "gap theory" about half of the churches are agreeing with because it explains the dinosaurs.

Oh, so you contend there is a criminal law that will put anyone in jail for not "hiring" a transvestite to play the church organ, then it was to to lead a sermon, and you left out singing in the choir or cleaning the toilets in the church, etc. As I know many of these services are by volunteers, I suppose they can't put up a sign and a roped off interview area where they can ask each one entering the church, "Are you a transvestite? You look like one." Oh, forget that, it would very likely piss off some real women.

I would take any side of anyone who is a minority where someone is trying to go against the Constitution and take away their individual rights. I realize some private organizations can still manage to get away with that. You specifically want me to pin it down to transvestites? What's this obsession with transvestites?

Then you suddenly switch tracts to evolution. What the hell does that have to do with anything in this topic.

Get thee back to Yahoo Chat.

Your "Onward Christian Soldier" avatar gives away what's going on up in that gray matter between your ears.

Hey I met your demands of showing examples of Jesus standing up for women when the government and all the simple minded tried to push them down. Now you wont do me the favor of showing your examples of Jesus being sexist, you continue to refuse with your excuses calling the bible a myth now all of a sudden, ya evolution subjects have a lot to do with proving the bible is divine and not a myth. Many thousands of books have been written by experts clearly showing all of the bible is the DIVINE word of God, not as you say myth as other third world religions have.

Many thousands of books have been written by experts which show that the Bobble is the divine word of god? What would those authors have been expert in? Can you name us just two or three of those thousands of books?

You want two or three only? Why so few? Ok no problem, here's a few I quickly pulled off amazon:

1. "Is the Bible True?: How Modern Debates and Discoveries Affirm the Essence of the Scriptures" by Jeffery L. Sheler

2. "The Stones Cry Out: How Archaeology Reveals the Truth of the Bible" Paperback by Randall Price

3. "Scientific Facts in the Bible: 100 Reasons to Believe the Bible is Supernatural in Origin" (Hidden Wealth Series) Mass Market Paperback by Ray Comfort (sounds like a good one)

How about the book Einstein was reading that was at the side of his bed at his death:

Velikovsky's "Worlds in Collision" where it shows at the time of the parting of the red sea & plagues in Egypt places around the world also experienced these great things, and how in one of venus' close encounters it licked up all the water off the red sea for the Israelites to cross and come crashing down on the Egyptians on the other side. If Einstein found it worthy to read, and near his death, perhaps it also has some scientific merit as well?

Anyhow, if you need help with more book lists just let me know. I have a list only in print of about 3,000 titles written on the fact the true racial seed of the Israelites of the bible are the western Christian nations of today. Most of those also dedicate their efforts on proving the bible is irrefutably the true divine word of God.

Is there any reason for you calling it the Bobble? I first thought it was a typo but now I see you've repeated it.

Setanta finds it necessary to heap ridicule on religion at every opportunity. Just a part of his winsome ways.

Right out of the gate, the first book is by a journalist who admits not being a scholar (expert) on what he is writing and goes by many interviews with archaeologists that are out-of-date by the time the book makes the presses.

Review of "Is the Bible True"

Making a magnanimous declaration that there are thousands of books written by experts on the scientific validity and historical accuracy of the Bible and the first book cited is one not written by an expert is not going to prove your case.

Another dopey sentence cites the Red Sea as parting when in the Bible, it is the Reed Sea, a much shallower body of water near the Nile delta. You've watched too many Cecile B. DeMille movies. The actual time that takes place is very close to the eruption of Thera which would have vacated the water from the Reed Sea (certainly not the Red Sea) which was then followed by a huge tidal wave that nobody could survive on either side of the Reed Sea.

In fact, case closed. Is it goof-ball day at A2K?

If the general will not apologize for saying that homosexuality is immoral, I refuse to apologize for saying that bigotry is immoral.

The whole thing got twisted. He had a right to an opinion, and he was asked a direct question.

Hey, snood, I like your signature line. No expectations (or hope) and you are more likely to enjoy equanimity. You're a Buddhist; didn't know that.

Heh. Nope.