General Won't Appologize For Saying Homosexuality Is Immoral

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General Pace Won't Apologize For Saying Homosexuality Is Immoral

When General Peter Pace was asked his own "opinion" on homosexuality, he should not have to appologize for answering honestly. I agree with General Pace in his statement: "I do not believe the United States is well served by a policy that says it is OK to be immoral in any way." -michael1

A high profile Marine General made said Monday that homosexuality was immoral and likened it to acts of adultery and said the military should not allow gays to serve in the military. Marine Gen. Peter Pace won't apologize for calling homosexuality immoral
"I believe homosexual acts between two individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts," Pace was quoted as saying in the newspaper interview. "I do not believe the United States is well served by a policy that says it is OK to be immoral in any way."

Today (Tuesday) a new statement was released that Marine Gen. Peter Pace will not apologize for calling the gay lifestyle immoral - a statement that has caused quite a shake up with gay advocacy groups.

Servicemembers Legal Defense Network recently said "General Pace's comments are outrageous, insensitive and disrespectful to the 65,000 lesbian and gay troops now serving in our armed forces."

Pace's people say that he was expressing his personal opinion and refuses to apologize for his statements. But it was said that his statement was not in line with the military's policies.

"General Pace's statements aren't in line with either the majority of the public or the military," said the Massachusetts Democrat. "He needs to recognize that support for overturning (the policy) is strong and growing" and that the military is "turning away good troops to enforce a costly policy of discrimination."

The problem, say gay rights advocates is that these gay people are serving on the front lines of the war(s) and risk their lives just as any other soldier does and they should at the very least be respected by the military.

"Right now there are men and women that are in the battle lines, that are in the trenches, they're serving their country," Lois Vizcaino, a spokesman for Human Rights Campaign said. "Their sexual orientation has nothing to do with their capability to serve in the U.S. military."

source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070313/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/military_gays;_ylt=Au3NfHSbTtlSxVxGGdqr2xOs0NUE

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since the general doesn't have to be in the field he can make such pronouncements... ask someone in the field if when the soldier next to him saves his life, or at the moment when he fears he is about to be killed, he is concerned in the slightest about where the guys with him like to put their dicks.

stupidity in one of it's higher forms.

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Here comes the straight bashers...

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Michael I'm straight and I don't bash straights or gays although I have little patience with self righteous dickheads and would love to learn of all militant homophobes being sodomized brutally so, as my grandmother used to say, they are given something to be frightened about. Laughing

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PS... Jesus says that because you believe in Him He's contractually obligated to let you into Heaven.... but nowhere in His agreement does it say He has to hang out people He finds distasteful...like judgmental, holier than thou snots. He says no one has the right to judge except Him.

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i'm always suspicious of guys that squawk too loudly about gays.

think ted haggerty.

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Old news. Longish thread two months ago, when it was almost new news.

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Military Fired 58 Arabic Linguists For Being Gay
Associated Press | LOLITA C. BALDOR | May 23, 2007 at 07:37 PM

Lawmakers who say the military has kicked out 58 Arabic language experts because they were gay want the
Pentagon to explain how it can afford to let the valuable specialists go.

Seizing on the latest discharge, involving three specialists, House members wrote the House Armed Services Committee chairman on Wednesday that the continued loss of such "capable, highly skilled Arabic linguists continues to compromise our national security during time of war."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070523/military-gay-linguists

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That's an awfully big sword you have, Michael...

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Pace says he refused to quit voluntarily
Pace says he refused to quit voluntarily

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You do know that Jesus was gay, right?

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Setanta wrote:

You do know that Jesus was gay, right?

Oh, I thought the story was that he married Mary Magdalene and had a son and they all were buried in the same burial place? Perhaps he was Bi. Rolling Eyes

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So much for the right to express unpopular opinions.

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Setanta wrote:

You do know that Jesus was gay, right?

Yup, and everytime you see a rainbow, God is having gay sex.

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Slappy Doo Hoo wrote:

Setanta wrote:
You do know that Jesus was gay, right?

Yup, and everytime you see a rainbow, God is having gay sex.

Remember, this guy wasn't going around proselytizing, but merely stated his opinion when asked. Diversity of everything but thought, I guess.

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Brandon9000 wrote:

So much for the right to express unpopular opinions.

I think the issue wasn't that Pace expressed his opinion, it was that he did so in the context of talking of the issue of the "don't ask don't tell policy" which gave the inference that he formed his stance on the don't ask don't tell policy because he believes homosexuality is immoral.

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revel wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:
So much for the right to express unpopular opinions.

I think the issue wasn't that Pace expressed his opinion, it was that he did so in the context of talking of the issue of the "don't ask don't tell policy" which gave the inference that he formed his stance on the don't ask don't tell policy because he believes homosexuality is immoral.

It was my impression that he has the right to an opinion and even to express it.

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Brandon9000 wrote:

revel wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
So much for the right to express unpopular opinions.

I think the issue wasn't that Pace expressed his opinion, it was that he did so in the context of talking of the issue of the "don't ask don't tell policy" which gave the inference that he formed his stance on the don't ask don't tell policy because he believes homosexuality is immoral.

It was my impression that he has the right to an opinion and even to express it.

Yes he does, but he does not have the right to force his morals into policy nor does anyone else.

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I thought that all law and policy was always based on a combination of what's practical and what's right. It's clear that you wish to form policy based on your ideas of right and wrong. If Pace had said that everyone had the right to his sexual orientation and that policy must reflect that, would you have asked for his ouster because he was advocating a policy based on his own ideas of right and wrong?

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Brandon9000 wrote:

I thought that all law and policy was always based on a combination of what's practical and what's right. It's clear that you wish to form policy based on your ideas of right and wrong. If Pace had said that everyone had the right to his sexual orientation and that policy must reflect that, would you have asked for his ouster because he was advocating a policy based on his own ideas of right and wrong?

Well first I have never asked for his ouster. Second, denying someone the ability to be openly gay in whatever venue for whatever reason is denying someone their civil liberties. You are taking away the freedom of a consenting adult who is not bring harm to another person because of views you hold against their sexuality which is forcing your views onto someone else.

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