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Obama placed under Secret Service protection

 
 
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 17 May, 2007 06:16 am
mysteryman wrote:
Hillary has USSS protection now,but if she loses the election then she will lose the protection in 2010,according to the USSS.

http://www.secretservice.gov/protection.shtml


Hillary does not need USSS protection any more than Ma Barker or Lady MacBeth did.
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Vietnamnurse
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 08:12 pm
ummmm, Vince Foster committed suicide and Jim McDougal was a nut case...so what is it you are saying?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 18 May, 2007 10:11 pm
Vince Foster committed "suicide"

I fixed that for you. You appear to have left off the quotes.
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 12:11 am
I just hope that if any of the people being discussed here ever also commit "suicide," in a manner similar to that of Vince Foster, that there will be less than the 101 peculiarities surrounding the incident. Just wondering, does Secret Service protection hopefully prevent such "suicides?"

http://prorev.com/foster.htm
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 12:23 am
personally, i say that james dobson poisoned jerry falwell. i have absolutely no proof, but that doesn't seem to matter.

so.... that settles it. dobson killed falwell. period.
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 12:37 am
Interesting news, DTOM, I wasn't aware that Falwell was found dead in a park with a gun nearby, or a bottle of poison found, or that Dobson was in town at the time. Can you further explain what might have happened?
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 04:57 am
First we have to get to the bottom of the question of why, after all this time and with SO many things pointing to the perpetrators of the murder of this Foster fellow AND with a fully staffed Republican Department of Justice, not a single murmur of a prosecution.

Why do you think that is, okie?

Do you think they are all in on it?

Joe(are they watching us now?)Nation
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Vietnamnurse
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 06:03 am
Thanks, Joe for replying to Okie's and McGentrix's nonsense. I can't tolerate the ignorance and can't imagine what radical sites still spew this idiocy. I am sure they are out there, but why anyone would listen is beyond me.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 07:20 am
McGentrix wrote:
Vince Foster committed "suicide"

I fixed that for you. You appear to have left off the quotes.



In the last year of Vince Foster's life he'd made two or three trips to Switzerland, the final one involving 1500+ dollars in air fares and about an hour and a half on the ground in Switzerland before flying back.

Ask yourself: How many days in my life would I have been willing to spend 1500 American dollars and an entire day's worth of dealing with taxi cabs, airports, airport security, and airplanes, for the vicarious pleasure of spending an hour on the ground in Switzerland??

How did the little ditty go in the batman/robin show??

Quote:

Da da da da da da da da,
da da da da da da da da:

BAG MAN!!!!!![/size]



Quote:

".....Switzerland?? I don't know nothin bout no trips to Switzerland, I ain't never been to Switzerland in my ****in life, I mean I got a bad memory, real bad, I forget **** like that the day after it happens, forgettin **** is my specialty, PLEASE HILL, DON'T SHOOT ME........
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 07:23 am
McGentrix wrote:
Vince Foster committed "suicide"

I fixed that for you. You appear to have left off the quotes.



The word is Arkancide.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 08:28 am
okie wrote:
Interesting news, DTOM, I wasn't aware that Falwell was found dead in a park with a gun nearby, or a bottle of poison found, or that Dobson was in town at the time. Can you further explain what might have happened?


explain, shmexplain... falwell had all the dirt on dobson's abuse of position at focus on the family and dobson desperately wanted to be the big kahuna in evangelical politics. getting hold of the money couldn't hurt, either. and the girls... wow! what those young gals won't do to get hold of some healing.. yeeee-hahhhhh!

james dobson poisoned jerry falwell. falwell was found dead and we say that dobson did it.

that makes it true.
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 09:00 pm
To be honest about Foster, I have not made it my full time job to study it, but just recalling the news stories at the time, I remain fairly suspicious of that event. I am suspicious for several reasons, but as Hillary spoke recently about finding things under the rug in the Whitehouse, she should know about sweeping things under the rug. She and Bill were experts.

The main reason I am suspicious of any strange thing that happened during the Clinton terms is simple and easy to understand, and a fact. The Clintons are some of the most corrupt, untrustworthy, and crooked people ever to inhabit the Whitehouse. The method of governing resembled that of the mafia than it did a democratic government.

How these people now have a second chance to gain the Whitehouse is truly one of the biggest mysteries of our time, demonstrating how bankrupt the American press and political establishment really have become, in my opinion.

I don't know if Foster shot himself. I doubt it, but perhaps there is not enough evidence to point fingers at anyone with any degree of certainty, so the Republicans and the authorities have chosen to sweep unanswered questions under the rug and move on. That is about the best answer I can come up with, as it is still extremely bewildering in terms of how the case was mis-handled and legitimate questions forgotten. It is one of those cases where we probably will never know for sure.

I am sure the Hillary supporters would scoff, but to demonstrate how much I would distrust the Clintons, I think Obama may be smart to have protection. Not a joke. As I said before, the Clintons are ruthless, and they have shown themselves to govern in the manner sort of like the mafia. Much I do not know of course, but if you are opposing the Clintons, history has shown you better watch your backside. Some may call this silly. Not silly, the track record shows it. Remember one thing, the Clintons have lived their entire lives aimed at power, and they are not casual about it. The game is serious, and they are very serious about this game. Believe it.
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Vietnamnurse
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 09:17 pm
Okie, for the record, I do not support Hillary Clinton! The facts that have been available about Vince Foster's death by suicide are obviously not obtainable by yourself. I do not understand why you persist in blaming the Clinton's for his death, other that you are under a delusion caused by right wing nuts fantasy ravings. The man killed himself! This isn't Lee Harvey Oswald in the Book Depository Building in Dallas and the Warren Commission(I am looking forward to the bullet analysis that has been promised); this is a person who was depressed and took his own life.

No amount of wing nuttery has proved otherwise.
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okie
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 09:35 pm
Where did I say I blamed the Clintons for his death. I am simply suspicious, thats all. I think there are some things about the case that do not add up, thats all, and I do not trust the Clintons. They earned their reputation fair and square. If it was Bush as president, I would have no suspicions, because I trust his character. I do not trust the Clinton administration one iota, thus every weird happening remains a subject of suspicion in my mind. Trust and personal character do matter, contrary to what the press tried to convince us otherwise. Bush may have his weaknesses, but he does not run the government like the mafia, as the Clintons did.

There is nothing proven to indicate Foster did not commit suicide, but I have seen many reports of things about the case that casts doubt on suicide, in my opinion. This opinion is held by many balanced and reasonable people that have looked at the case. Maybe he did commit suicide, but I remain suspicious, thats all. And if nothing can be proven otherwise or explained about unanswered aspects of the event, you move on, thats all that can be done. But suspicions remain because there are weird things concerning the case.

Same about Kennedy. I lived through that era, and have read about the various theories on it, and to this day, the jury is still sort of out. Oswald apparently acted alone, but strange of all strange twist of events, I remember distinctly when Jack Ruby shot Oswald. Why? I still think there was much more to the case than we know, but it isn't proven and probably never will be. Many bizarre aspects to the case. Again, maybe it was only Oswald acting alone, we don't know do we?
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Vietnamnurse
 
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Reply Sat 19 May, 2007 10:20 pm
Laughing You would have "no suspicions about Bush because you trust his character."

You are really out on a limb here. You don't trust Hillary or Bill Clinton because they may have done something sinister: like murder. Nothing has ever been proved. Only insinuated in right wing nuttery radio stations and Newsmax or the Washington Times.

Bush and his administration have repeatedly lied to the American people and have lost our trust....70% + do not think he is telling the truth about what they have perpetrated in Iraq, the failure in Afghanistan, Katrina, DOJ...you name it...their words do not connote belief. Cheney, who was to guide this neophyte with his excellent experience has failed because he is out of his "everloving gourd." Something has happened to Dick Cheney and it ain't good.

We as a country have been used and abused by past presidents....Clinton may have not been the best...but he is not the worst. Bush and Andrew Johnson stand together in my opinion as two of the worst. Nixon also.

I just attended my husband's 50th reunion of his medical school graduation from the University of Maryland. After a luncheon they put on in the historic lecture auditorium (1812) a talk on "Saving Abraham Lincoln" using today's standards of medical care. A presidential historian spoke after the head of the world famous R. Cawley Shock Trauma Unit at UMD Baltimore spoke about Lincoln's injury. The historian said that Lincoln would have been impaired, but could have remained president IF he was "ARTICULATE"! The place filled with physicians and their wives was filled with laughter! That we would need an ARTICULATE president. How profound. Bush will go down as our least articulate...except for Woodrow Wilson after his stroke.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 20 May, 2007 02:41 pm
okie wrote:
Remember one thing, the Clintons have lived their entire lives aimed at power, and they are not casual about it. The game is serious, and they are very serious about this game. Believe it.


The basic reality you need to understand about the Clintons is that they kill people who get in their way. It is that simple.
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okie
 
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Reply Sun 20 May, 2007 09:10 pm
Vietnamnurse wrote:

Bush and his administration have repeatedly lied to the American people and have lost our trust....70% + do not think he is telling the truth about what they have perpetrated in Iraq, the failure in Afghanistan, Katrina, DOJ...you name it...their words do not connote belief. Cheney, who was to guide this neophyte with his excellent experience has failed because he is out of his "everloving gourd." Something has happened to Dick Cheney and it ain't good.


I believe you need to quit letting the press do your thinking for you. You have fallen victim to the same "lie spins" and brainwash job carried by the press and Democratic spin machine over the last few years. You need to go back and remember what did happen, not what the spin says happened. One big one, it is now burned into minds that Bush lied about WMD. I do not believe he did.

Supposed lies about Katrina, Afghanistan, and whatever else you listed, I don't know what you are talking about. More victim of media spin. Katrina for sure. It was the mayor and the governor of LA that were to blame from Day 1, and if it were not for Bush, many more people would have drowned in New Orleans.

Bush made a decision based on what he knew about Saddam Hussein, our previous experience with the man, and what our intelligence services and other intelligence services around the world were providing him. Many of the Democrats that now disavow their own decisions based on the same information have turned tail and cowardly have taken the politically expedient course of action. Bush remains consistent and courageous in the face of this media blitz and political onslaught from the left. We are rid of Saddam Hussein and any threat he posed in regard to WMD and passing them off to terrorists, and we are fighting them there instead of here. This after at least a decade of spineless dealing with this ruler by the U.N. and others, a ruler that killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, if not more. In addition, we have had no more significant attacks here. Bush has my respect. I have no respect for the Democrats that flip flop, stand for nothing, and stick their finger in the air and see which way the wind is blowing before they vote on anything. And for 8 years, their party defended the most corrupt administration in this nation's history, in my opinion.

Bush has not been perfect, and I disagree with him concerning much domestic policy, but he is a man I still trust far, far more than the Clintonistas. No president is perfect.I am not happy about the current progress of things in Iraq, and I think we need to consider a different tact, and I remain unconvinced of the recent tactic to expand troops. But I believe the situation is fully salvagable and winnable. We must stay committed and we must show character as a nation. We backed Bush when we started this, and so we must also stand behind our own decisions. Bush is one of us, and he deserves our support. If you did not support it orginally, and not now, you deserve respect for being consistent. That is your right and your decision. However, if you supported Bush originally but not now, you need to take a good look at yourself and your thinking.
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old europe
 
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Reply Sun 20 May, 2007 10:42 pm
okie wrote:
I believe you need to quit letting the press do your thinking for you.


okie wrote:
We are rid of Saddam Hussein and any threat he posed in regard to WMD and passing them off to terrorists, and we are fighting them there instead of here.



Wow. You really managed to get these two sentences into one post. Amazing.
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Vietnamnurse
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 12:26 pm
Okie, I have not been a name caller and will not start now, however, I do want to know if you are living on the same planet as I am. Laughing
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okie
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 01:30 pm
Yes, and the same country. Thanks for not being a name caller. What a wonderful place we live where we can still express our opinions. I hope we agree on that.
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