How long will christians take this???

Yeah, we're missing each other, I think. And some of its purposeful. All christians ain't back-stabbing and evil, anymore than anyone else.

snood wrote:

Yeah, we're missing each other, I think. And some of its purposeful. All christians ain't back-stabbing and evil, anymore than anyone else.

You're only kidding yourself if you think i haven't seen the points you're attempting to make.

I've not said that all christians are back-stabbing and evil, i'm just pointing out that far too many religious types attempt to make out that none of those who profess to believe as they do themselves can possibly be evil, because then they truly would not be religious. One of the problems you run into with that, though, is that so much blood has been shed in the name of almost each and every organized religion, that one is lead to conclude that all these religions must be false doctrines, because they fail to prevent the evil that their adherents do get up to.

I've never said that all christians are evil, i've just always been happy to point out how much blood has been shed in the name of religion.

Arella Mae wrote:

snood wrote:

Is that what bothers you most about Christians? that they (some that you know) think they have the inside track on "going to heaven"?

You probably won't believe it, but I have that same conflict (about individuals thinking they have the rules of exclusivity to "heaven") with my very own sister. She thinks she belongs to a select few.

Just curious Snood, and you don't have to answer but is your sister a Calvinist? Does she believe in predestination?

She belongs to a Church of Christ, but there's some distinction (she's tried to explain it to me before, but I really wasn't listening) her church makes between itself and other Churches of Christ.

Augustine said it best "Never judge a philosophy by its abuse"

instead of looking at the evil done by some in the name of christianity, look at the one who founded Christianity. Study Christ's teachings and life...

kate4christ03 wrote:

Augustine said it best "Never judge a philosophy by its abuse"

instead of looking at the evil done by some in the name of christianity, look at the one who founded Christianity. Study Christ's teachings and life...

And I'm sure the same thing applies to Islam too right? And Satanists? And Witches?

maporsche wrote:

kate4christ03 wrote:

Augustine said it best "Never judge a philosophy by its abuse"

instead of looking at the evil done by some in the name of christianity, look at the one who founded Christianity. Study Christ's teachings and life...

And I'm sure the same thing applies to Islam too right? And Satanists? And Witches?

Islam does not preach violence.
Laveyan Satanism ( The biggest Satanist sect. ) does not preach violence.
Wicca ( The main Witchcrafting religion ) does not preach violence.

Cobbler wrote:

maporsche wrote:

kate4christ03 wrote:

Augustine said it best "Never judge a philosophy by its abuse"

instead of looking at the evil done by some in the name of christianity, look at the one who founded Christianity. Study Christ's teachings and life...

And I'm sure the same thing applies to Islam too right? And Satanists? And Witches?

Islam does not preach violence.
Laveyan Satanism ( The biggest Satanist sect. ) does not preach violence.
Wicca ( The main Witchcrafting religion ) does not preach violence.

Does Islam require all atheists to be killed in a non-violent way? I must have missed that part.

maporsche wrote:

kate4christ03 wrote:

Augustine said it best "Never judge a philosophy by its abuse"

instead of looking at the evil done by some in the name of christianity, look at the one who founded Christianity. Study Christ's teachings and life...

And I'm sure the same thing applies to Islam too right? And Satanists? And Witches?

Islam does not preach violence.
Laveyan Satanism ( The biggest Satanist sect. ) does not preach violence.
Wicca ( The main Witchcrafting religion ) does not preach violence.

Jesus walked on water.

Therefore, God exists.

i am tired of this same old crap. people constantly look to christians for advice. but it seems almost anything you see today on television or read in magazines is either publicizing events that do not go along with christian beliefs. or they are bashing christians. like the t.v show family guy. it constantly shows Jesus and god in bars. in bed with woman. and shows them acting like thusgs. i ask how long will us christians take this.

Arella Mae wrote:

Run 4 fun wrote:

Oh, C'mon! America!? A Christian Nation?! Absolutely not! I challenge people who say that all of the time.

I do not know them in a percent. You will know Christians by their works (as Jesus and then James said), and as the leaders of Roman soldiers who collected Christians to be slaughtered said, "You will know them by their love."

Matthew 7: 16 (NIV) ~ By their fruit you will recognize them. (NIV)

Fruit of the spirit is not works. Galatians 5:22-23 ~ But the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.

James 2:24-26

Quote:

You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

Arella Mae wrote:

snood wrote:

Is that what bothers you most about Christians? that they (some that you know) think they have the inside track on "going to heaven"?

You probably won't believe it, but I have that same conflict (about individuals thinking they have the rules of exclusivity to "heaven") with my very own sister. She thinks she belongs to a select few.

Just curious Snood, and you don't have to answer but is your sister a Calvinist? Does she believe in predestination?

She belongs to a Church of Christ, but there's some distinction (she's tried to explain it to me before, but I really wasn't listening) her church makes between itself and other Churches of Christ.

Arella Mae, wouldn't you expect those fruits of the spirit to manifest themselves in physical action as Wandel brought in with James.

I've always thought that if there really was a god and people were guided by it, that this would cause the eventual union of religions.....while, alternatively, if there were NO gods, then religions would continue to splinter as times and attitudes change. Guess which one we see !!