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Bush Supporters' Aftermath Thread IV

 
 
McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 06:32 am
Where's your generalization MM? Did the mods edit it?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 06:35 am
McGentrix wrote:
Where's your generalization MM? Did the mods edit it?


As long I've been here on A2K there have been always notices that, when and if the mods edited something.

You know it differently, McG?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 06:39 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
McGentrix wrote:
Where's your generalization MM? Did the mods edit it?


As long I've been here on A2K there have been always notices that, when and if the mods edited something.

You know it differently, McG?


I know one thing, Either your sense of humor is non-existant, or you are not a native English speaker.

It was a joke Walter. MM wrote "every liberal ants to kill as many babies as is possible,using the most barbaric methods possible."

I asked him where the generalization was...

I am sorry you have to have these explained to you like a child.
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 06:42 am
Lighten up, McGentrix.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 07:13 am
Thanks for explaining, McGentrix.

Yes, you're correct: I'm no native English speaker.
And even worse: I'm one of the Germans who are know for their missing humour. (That's quite known by those who know or even had the bad luck to have met me personally.)
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 09:40 am
Awe shucks, Walter. You ain´t that bad: next to meª!
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Tue 10 Apr, 2007 01:56 pm
If this thread keeps going long enough, the title will start to take on a whole new meaning.
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xingu
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 04:37 am
Quote:
Loud Actions That Speak Wrongly
John Brown
April 09, 2007

John Brown, a former Foreign Service officer and senior fellow at the University of Southern California Center on Public Diplomacy, compiles the Public Diplomacy Press and Blog Review .

"Propaganda of the deed," a phrase attributed to the 19th century Italian revolutionary Carlo Pisacane, has long been associated with the tactics of terrorism. The Bush administration's image czarina and No. 1 overseas spin-stress, Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs Karen Hughes, has now provided humankind with an updated version of Pisacane's term: "diplomacy of deeds."

In public statements, Hughes stresses that she sees carrying out deeded diplomacy as one of her most important functions. As she writes in the Washington Times on December 20, 2006:

Americans should know we are giving the gift of hope to thousands of people whose names we will never know. And I will continue to advocate we do even more, because the diplomacy of deeds serves our own national interests and the people of every nation.

Examples of the effectiveness of such diplomacy, she adds, are:

After the Navy hospital ship USS Mercy revisited areas of Southeast Asia ravaged by the tsunami last year, polls showed the favorable opinion of the U.S. rose to 87 percent in Bangladesh. When earthquakes devastated Pakistan, American military helicopters rushed emergency relief to thousands of people. The Chinook helicopter quickly became one of the most popular toys in Pakistan and favorable opinion of Americans doubled in polls.

But Hughes' diplomacy of deeds has severe limitations. First, it cannot automatically be assumed that ostentatious public displays of what the Bush administration considers good deeds or charity (and Hughes' handlers certainly make sure that her help-the-suffering-world actions are covered by the media) are always appreciated by the people for whom they are intended. A specialist in public diplomacy, R. S. Zaharna of American University, suggests this when she writes in Foreign Policy in Focus (June 2003) that the United States government tried to show how the war on terror was not a war on Islam by emphasizing U.S. efforts to help Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Afghanistan. Emphasizing one's good deeds is a coveted practice in U.S. public relations.

Washington officials were naturally confused and offended by apparent Muslim ingratitude. However, for most Muslims, calling attention to one's charity or good deeds is frowned upon. The Koran admonishes, "Cancel not your charity by reminders of your generosity or injury."


Second, Hughes' fascination with deeds meant to impress those who she thinks are bound to be "grateful" for them reflects what has been a major fault of the Bush administration from its very beginning: that it does not really believe in two-way communications with the rest of the world. Instead of supporting the exchange views with foreign publics, the administration just wants to impress citizens of the world with our goodness so that they'll stop hating us.

Finally, Hughes' overseas deeds, in the global scope of things, are of small significance, for they are those of an administration that (in the eyes of the world) has committed some of the most horrid deeds in this new century, ranging from an unjustified war of aggression on an impoverished country to the establishment of a detainee camp at Guantanamo where prisoners are not granted basic human rights.

The true result of the diplomacy of deeds of the Bush administration, therefore, has not been Pakistani kids suddenly becoming pro-American by playing with Chinook helicopters, but the havoc, death and destruction our forty-third president has wreaked upon the world, at enormous cost to American blood and treasure and to whatever moral standing the United States has on our small planet.
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xingu
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 04:41 am
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/04/09/loud_actions_that_speak_wrongly.php
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 11:00 am
Well the latest from CBS news:

News anchor in plagiarism scandal
April 12, 2007 08:24am
Article from: Reuters

AMERICAN CBS Evening News anchor Katie Couric may vividly recall her first library card, but the US network says she was unaware that her online video essay about the virtues of libraries was largely a work of plagiarism.

CBS News said this week the April 4 instalment of Katie Couric's Notebook consisted mostly of passages lifted verbatim from a Wall Street Journal column by Jeffrey Zaslow that was published in March.

The producer responsible for Couric's piece was fired on Monday night, hours after the Journal contacted CBS News to complain, network spokeswoman Sandy Genelius said yesterday.

The essay was immediately removed from the CBS News website, and a correction was posted in its place.

The network did not identify the producer who was fired.

Although the text for the minute-long video was written in first person - introduced by Couric with the line, "I still remember when I got my first library card" - Couric did not compose the piece herself and was unaware that much of it was plagiarised, Ms Genelius said.

"She was stunned, and very upset," Ms Genelius said today. "It's the same reaction we all had."
MORE HERE
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 01:39 pm
"But the true threats to stability and peace are these nations that are not very transparent, that hide behind the -- that don't let people in to take a look and see what they're up to. They're very kind of authoritarian regimes.

The true threat is whether or not one of these people decide, speak of anger, try to hold us hostage,
ourselves -- the Israelis, for example, to whom we'll defend, offer
our defenses -- the South Koreans."

--George W. Bush, 13 March 2001
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xingu
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 01:51 pm
Cicerone wrote:
But the true threats to stability and peace are these nations that are not very transparent


WOW! I'm sure glad the Bush administration is a very transparent administration otherwise it would be a threat to world stability peace. Rolling Eyes
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 20 Apr, 2007 02:04 am
http://i12.tinypic.com/2vxrifa.jpg
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 20 Apr, 2007 09:29 am
Where's Gonzales? LOL
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xingu
 
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Reply Fri 20 Apr, 2007 11:19 am
Quote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070419/bush-musings

Think of the brain behind these words and you'll understand why we have over 3,300 dead Americans in Iraq.
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revel
 
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Reply Sat 21 Apr, 2007 06:43 am
Quote:
"There are still horrific attacks in Iraq such as the bombings in Baghdad on Wednesday, but the direction of the fight is beginning to shift," Bush said.


source

Quote:
April 20 (Reuters) - Following are security developments in Iraq as of 1830 GMT on Friday:

* denotes new or updated items

* SAQLAWIYA - One civilian was killed and eight U.S. troops wounded in a suicide attack on a U.S. checkpoint near Saqlawiya, near Falluja, 50 km (32 miles) west of Baghdad, the U.S. military said. A dump truck loaded with explosives detonated under a highway overpass, causing a large part to collapse.

* BAGHDAD - Nineteen bodies were found shot dead across Baghdad in the past 24 hours, police said.

* BAGHDAD - Two mortar rounds landed in a residential area in eastern Baghdad, killing a child and wounding nine other people, police said.

MAHMUDIYA - A U.S. soldier was killed and two were wounded on Thursday when a rocket struck a U.S. base in Mahmudiya, 30 km (20 km) south of Baghdad, the U.S. military said.

BAGHDAD - The U.S. military said it killed eight militants and detained 41 others during operations around Iraq. The military also said soldiers found seven tanks of chlorine in a raid on a building near Mahmudiya.

BAQUBA - Gunmen opened fire on a police patrol, killing two policemen and wounding another eight in Baquba 65 km (40 miles) north of Baghdad, police said.

KUFA - Gunmen killed a civilian in a drive-by shooting in central Kufa, 160 km (100 miles) south of Baghdad, police said.

FALLUJA - Gunmen shot dead a civilian and wounded two others in a drive-by shooting in Falluja, 50 km (32 miles) west of Baghdad, police said.

FALLUJA - A suicide truck bomber targeting a police station near Falluja killed two civilians and wounded 37, police said.

BAGHDAD - Twenty bodies were found in different areas of Baghdad on Thursday, police said.

BAGHDAD - Gunmen opened fire on civilians in Saadoun street in central Baghdad on Thursday, killing three people and wounding two, police said.

BAGHDAD - Two policemen were killed and three wounded when they were attacked by gunmen on Thursday in the northern Baghdad district of Waziriya, police said.


source

What is it with these republican presidents? Ronald Reagan with his astrology and now George with his rug.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 21 Apr, 2007 10:52 am
George is a dry-drunk, while Reagan was an actor.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Sat 21 Apr, 2007 12:47 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
George is a dry-drunk, while Reagan was an actor.


Strange things sometimes come out of c.i.'s mouth.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 21 Apr, 2007 02:15 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
George is a dry-drunk, while Reagan was an actor.


Strange things sometimes come out of c.i.'s mouth.


This wasn't strange. Not polite, maybe.

But Reagan appeared quite saintly compared to this crew.
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 21 Apr, 2007 03:15 pm
...neocons have been discredited for ideological reasons. Most of the recent mistakes can be traced back not just to flawed execution but to flawed thinking. The neocons argued that democracy might be an antidote to the Middle East's problems: but democracy proved too delicate a plant. They claimed that the assertion of American power might wipe out "Vietnam syndrome": but it has ended up making America more reluctant to intervene abroad. They talked about linking American power with American ideals: but it turned out, at Abu Ghraib and Guantánamo, that power can corrupt those ideals.

The tragedy of neoconservatism is that the movement began as a critique of the arrogance of power. Early neocons warned that government schemes to improve the world might well end up making it worse. They also argued that social engineers are always plagued by the law of unintended consequences. The neocons have not only messed up American foreign policy by forgetting their founders' insights. They may also have put a stake through the heart of their own movement.

(From The Economist)
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