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Bush Supporters' Aftermath Thread IV

 
 
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 09:05 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
I have high hopes that you will one day read and respond to what I actually say Walter, instead of popping off something snotty to what you want me to have said.


Sorry, that's what I intended to do.


Well you didn't. I don't know what your intentions are. I can only judge the content of your posts which frequently mischaracterize and/or misrepresent me and/or are unnecessarily argumentative.
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 09:19 am
I wouldn't worry too much about these negative comments and characters assessments if I were you, Walter, just consider the source.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 09:23 am
Well we do consider the source as we consider all you wonderful Bush supporters who provide your pithy and insightful comments no matter how rude, wrong, or irresponsible they might be. Either the most flaming liberals are the most judgmental, hateful, and irresponsible people on earth as a group, or they are the most stupid in the way they attempt to sell their ideology by trashing anybody with a different point of view on any issue.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 09:39 am
revel wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about these negative comments and characters assessments if I were you, Walter, just consider the source.


Especially this time (and on another thread) I do:
- I just wanted to show that that person (forth in line as head of state, btw, if I'm not totally wrong) is indeed going in the combat zone - that's just the point of the long going discussion, in publico as well as in the British cabinet.

- That had nothing to do with the source but with disregarding to what I answered and then assign blame me for such.
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 09:57 am
Foxfyre wrote:
Well we do consider the source as we consider all you wonderful Bush supporters who provide your pithy and insightful comments no matter how rude, wrong, or irresponsible they might be. Either the most flaming liberals are the most judgmental, hateful, and irresponsible people on earth as a group, or they are the most stupid in the way they attempt to sell their ideology by trashing anybody with a different point of view on any issue.


Pot meet kettle
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 10:09 am
revel wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Well we do consider the source as we consider all you wonderful Bush supporters who provide your pithy and insightful comments no matter how rude, wrong, or irresponsible they might be. Either the most flaming liberals are the most judgmental, hateful, and irresponsible people on earth as a group, or they are the most stupid in the way they attempt to sell their ideology by trashing anybody with a different point of view on any issue.


Pot meet kettle


Really? Would you like to cite illustrations of conservatives coming onto liberal threads for the purpose of saying hateful, antagonistic, and/or stupid things? Peruse the Democrat Gloat thread for instance, not that you guys seem to be able to keep that going, and see how many instances of trolling, spamming, and/or hateful attack posts you can find from the conservatives there, at least on a scale anywhere near approximating the trolls, spammers, and anti-Bush, anti-conservative hate posts that are regularly posted on this thread.

Take your time. I'll wait.

Again I have no problem with those who come onto this thread for the purpose of engaging in constructive differences in points of view. Such are welcomed and encouraged and don't receive any grief whatsoever from those of us who asked for one thread in which we could discuss conservative issues without nasty harrassment from the trolls.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 10:10 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
revel wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about these negative comments and characters assessments if I were you, Walter, just consider the source.


Especially this time (and on another thread) I do:
- I just wanted to show that that person (forth in line as head of state, btw, if I'm not totally wrong) is indeed going in the combat zone - that's just the point of the long going discussion, in publico as well as in the British cabinet.

- That had nothing to do with the source but with disregarding to what I answered and then assign blame me for such.


I started a thread on McCain's kid joining the Marines and you should (and probably have) read some of the liberal comments there. It's in their nature.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 10:15 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
revel wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about these negative comments and characters assessments if I were you, Walter, just consider the source.


Especially this time (and on another thread) I do:
- I just wanted to show that that person (forth in line as head of state, btw, if I'm not totally wrong) is indeed going in the combat zone - that's just the point of the long going discussion, in publico as well as in the British cabinet.

- That had nothing to do with the source but with disregarding to what I answered and then assign blame me for such.


You'll be hard put to find instances in which I do that to you Walter. I certainly don't follow you around trying to belittle or insult you. I defend myself when unfairly or incorrectly characterized by people who seem to live for an opportunity to do that. If you tell me that I have misrepresented your intent, I acknowledge that. You very VERY rarely will acknowledge it when I protest a post being misrepresented however. Assign blame? Only where warranted.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 10:21 am
Foxy, what bugs me about you, and a lot of other conservatives, is that you continue to assert pro-conservative arguments that have been totally discredited. For instance, you continue to assert that Bush had valid intelligence supporting the invasion of Iraq. You also continue to assert that Plame was not covert. There is, as you know full well, massive evidence to the contrary. It seems that you and your fellow rightwingers have no regard for your credibility.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 10:25 am
Foxfyre wrote:

You'll be hard put to find instances in which I do that to you Walter. I certainly don't follow you around trying to belittle or insult you. I defend myself when unfairly or incorrectly characterized by people who seem to live for an opportunity to do that. If you tell me that I have misrepresented your intent, I acknowledge that. You very VERY rarely will acknowledge it when I protest a post being misrepresented however. Assign blame? Only where warranted.


I neither said (I might have overlooked such, but I'm rather sure) that you followed me around nor do I live for an opportunity to do so.
[That' hopefully grammatically correct re "seem".]
(If you would follow me around or/and had met me, you easily could find out for what I live.)
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 10:37 am
Advocate wrote:
Foxy, what bugs me about you, and a lot of other conservatives, is that you continue to assert pro-conservative arguments that have been totally discredited. For instance, you continue to assert that Bush had valid intelligence supporting the invasion of Iraq. You also continue to assert that Plame was not covert. There is, as you know full well, massive evidence to the contrary. It seems that you and your fellow rightwingers have no regard for your credibility.


And it bugs us conservatives just as much for anti-Bush people to keep asserting that he lied or intentionally misrepresented the evidence, etc. etc. etc. when we have presented HUGE amounts of data disputing that.

I think you have not discredited the evidence used in the decision to invade Iraq in the least. And whether it bugs you or not, I'll keep saying what I believe to be true about that.

Whether certain intelligence was valid is certainly a subject worthy of being debated. But so many liberals don't want to debate that. They want to discredit Bush and they aren't about to evaluate whether the accusations against him are credible, accurate, or reasonable. And they aren't willing to acknowledge how many people thought the evidence was credible at the time decisions were made.

And even the special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame case has stated she was not covert at the time we was outed and frankly it only makes people who say she was look uninformed or to be deliberately misrepresenting the facts there. But it sure doesn't stop them from going right ahead and condemning Bush for 'outing' a covert CIA agent even though a CIA employee now admits being the one who did it.

Every single one of us on the conservative side have acknowledged valid reasons to criticize our President. But we also are able to see facts for what they are and are not willing to be silent when those facts are intentionally or ignorantly mistated, misrepresented, and/or facts are manufactured to falsely accuse him.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 10:46 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:

You'll be hard put to find instances in which I do that to you Walter. I certainly don't follow you around trying to belittle or insult you. I defend myself when unfairly or incorrectly characterized by people who seem to live for an opportunity to do that. If you tell me that I have misrepresented your intent, I acknowledge that. You very VERY rarely will acknowledge it when I protest a post being misrepresented however. Assign blame? Only where warranted.


I neither said (I might have overlooked such, but I'm rather sure) that you followed me around nor do I live for an opportunity to do so.
[That' hopefully grammatically correct re "seem".]
(If you would follow me around or/and had met me, you easily could find out for what I live.)


See? Even here you mischaracterized what I said and ignored the most pertinent point in my post.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 10:48 am
The iterated "Majority rules" is used when a faction is in the majority, when the majority changes then that same faction says "you can't make decisions by what is a popular majority.
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 12:28 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
revel wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Well we do consider the source as we consider all you wonderful Bush supporters who provide your pithy and insightful comments no matter how rude, wrong, or irresponsible they might be. Either the most flaming liberals are the most judgmental, hateful, and irresponsible people on earth as a group, or they are the most stupid in the way they attempt to sell their ideology by trashing anybody with a different point of view on any issue.


Pot meet kettle


Really? Would you like to cite illustrations of conservatives coming onto liberal threads for the purpose of saying hateful, antagonistic, and/or stupid things? Peruse the Democrat Gloat thread for instance, not that you guys seem to be able to keep that going, and see how many instances of trolling, spamming, and/or hateful attack posts you can find from the conservatives there, at least on a scale anywhere near approximating the trolls, spammers, and anti-Bush, anti-conservative hate posts that are regularly posted on this thread.

Take your time. I'll wait.

Again I have no problem with those who come onto this thread for the purpose of engaging in constructive differences in points of view. Such are welcomed and encouraged and don't receive any grief whatsoever from those of us who asked for one thread in which we could discuss conservative issues without nasty harrassment from the trolls.


This whole posts is completely not connected to comments which led to my commenting, "pot meet kettle." For proof there is need to go further than this post.

You didn't say anything about this sacred thread which we heathens have come onto in your post which is quoted at the top of this post and which I responded with "pot meet kettle." You said how rude, wrong and irresponsible our posts are. I consider yours and some of your fellow conservative just as rude, wrong, and irresponsible.

There is no need to go dragging post even if I could do it right, posters that have been here for awhile probably already know what each of is talking about and have their own views of it.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 12:43 pm
Advocate wrote:
Foxy, what bugs me about you, and a lot of other conservatives, is that you continue to assert pro-conservative arguments that have been totally discredited. For instance, you continue to assert that Bush had valid intelligence supporting the invasion of Iraq. You also continue to assert that Plame was not covert. There is, as you know full well, massive evidence to the contrary. It seems that you and your fellow rightwingers have no regard for your credibility.


Credibility in your eyes, perhaps. You have implied narrow definitions of the above two questions that permit only your favorite answers.

I have a hard time reconciling your apparently unbounded support for the aggression and injustice practiced by Israel - a continuing hazard tio the core interests of the United States - and your oposition to our policies vis a vis Iran.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 12:58 pm
revel wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
revel wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Well we do consider the source as we consider all you wonderful Bush supporters who provide your pithy and insightful comments no matter how rude, wrong, or irresponsible they might be. Either the most flaming liberals are the most judgmental, hateful, and irresponsible people on earth as a group, or they are the most stupid in the way they attempt to sell their ideology by trashing anybody with a different point of view on any issue.


Pot meet kettle


Really? Would you like to cite illustrations of conservatives coming onto liberal threads for the purpose of saying hateful, antagonistic, and/or stupid things? Peruse the Democrat Gloat thread for instance, not that you guys seem to be able to keep that going, and see how many instances of trolling, spamming, and/or hateful attack posts you can find from the conservatives there, at least on a scale anywhere near approximating the trolls, spammers, and anti-Bush, anti-conservative hate posts that are regularly posted on this thread.

Take your time. I'll wait.

Again I have no problem with those who come onto this thread for the purpose of engaging in constructive differences in points of view. Such are welcomed and encouraged and don't receive any grief whatsoever from those of us who asked for one thread in which we could discuss conservative issues without nasty harrassment from the trolls.


This whole posts is completely not connected to comments which led to my commenting, "pot meet kettle." For proof there is need to go further than this post.

You didn't say anything about this sacred thread which we heathens have come onto in your post which is quoted at the top of this post and which I responded with "pot meet kettle." You said how rude, wrong and irresponsible our posts are. I consider yours and some of your fellow conservative just as rude, wrong, and irresponsible.

There is no need to go dragging post even if I could do it right, posters that have been here for awhile probably already know what each of is talking about and have their own views of it.


Well apart from the fact that you are reading more into my post than what I wrote and a lot of what you are saying in this post makes no sense at all, I'll take this as a sort of twisted admission that you can't find any cases of Conservative trolling, spamming, and hate posts in liberal threads. This thread, even the Version IV portion of it, contains quite a few examples making my point however.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 01:03 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
revel wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
revel wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Well we do consider the source as we consider all you wonderful Bush supporters who provide your pithy and insightful comments no matter how rude, wrong, or irresponsible they might be. Either the most flaming liberals are the most judgmental, hateful, and irresponsible people on earth as a group, or they are the most stupid in the way they attempt to sell their ideology by trashing anybody with a different point of view on any issue.


Pot meet kettle


Really? Would you like to cite illustrations of conservatives coming onto liberal threads for the purpose of saying hateful, antagonistic, and/or stupid things? Peruse the Democrat Gloat thread for instance, not that you guys seem to be able to keep that going, and see how many instances of trolling, spamming, and/or hateful attack posts you can find from the conservatives there, at least on a scale anywhere near approximating the trolls, spammers, and anti-Bush, anti-conservative hate posts that are regularly posted on this thread.

Take your time. I'll wait.

Again I have no problem with those who come onto this thread for the purpose of engaging in constructive differences in points of view. Such are welcomed and encouraged and don't receive any grief whatsoever from those of us who asked for one thread in which we could discuss conservative issues without nasty harrassment from the trolls.


This whole posts is completely not connected to comments which led to my commenting, "pot meet kettle." For proof there is need to go further than this post.

You didn't say anything about this sacred thread which we heathens have come onto in your post which is quoted at the top of this post and which I responded with "pot meet kettle." You said how rude, wrong and irresponsible our posts are. I consider yours and some of your fellow conservative just as rude, wrong, and irresponsible.

There is no need to go dragging post even if I could do it right, posters that have been here for awhile probably already know what each of is talking about and have their own views of it.


Well apart from the fact that you are reading more into my post than what I wrote and a lot of what you are saying in this post makes no sense at all, I'll take this as a sort of twisted admission that you can't find any cases of Conservative trolling, spamming, and hate posts in liberal threads. This thread, even the Version IV portion of it, contains quite a few examples making my point however.


That's the whole point; there are no 'liberal' or 'conservative' threads here on A2K. You don't get special privileges to post in certain places just because you are of a certain political bent.

If you're looking to post and talk to Conservatives or Bush Supporters only, you're in the wrong place completely. I would suggest a different website.

Cycloptichorn
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revel
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 01:21 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
revel wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
revel wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Well we do consider the source as we consider all you wonderful Bush supporters who provide your pithy and insightful comments no matter how rude, wrong, or irresponsible they might be. Either the most flaming liberals are the most judgmental, hateful, and irresponsible people on earth as a group, or they are the most stupid in the way they attempt to sell their ideology by trashing anybody with a different point of view on any issue.


Pot meet kettle


Really? Would you like to cite illustrations of conservatives coming onto liberal threads for the purpose of saying hateful, antagonistic, and/or stupid things? Peruse the Democrat Gloat thread for instance, not that you guys seem to be able to keep that going, and see how many instances of trolling, spamming, and/or hateful attack posts you can find from the conservatives there, at least on a scale anywhere near approximating the trolls, spammers, and anti-Bush, anti-conservative hate posts that are regularly posted on this thread.

Take your time. I'll wait.

Again I have no problem with those who come onto this thread for the purpose of engaging in constructive differences in points of view. Such are welcomed and encouraged and don't receive any grief whatsoever from those of us who asked for one thread in which we could discuss conservative issues without nasty harrassment from the trolls.


This whole posts is completely not connected to comments which led to my commenting, "pot meet kettle." For proof there is need to go further than this post.

You didn't say anything about this sacred thread which we heathens have come onto in your post which is quoted at the top of this post and which I responded with "pot meet kettle." You said how rude, wrong and irresponsible our posts are. I consider yours and some of your fellow conservative just as rude, wrong, and irresponsible.

There is no need to go dragging post even if I could do it right, posters that have been here for awhile probably already know what each of is talking about and have their own views of it.


Well apart from the fact that you are reading more into my post than what I wrote and a lot of what you are saying in this post makes no sense at all, I'll take this as a sort of twisted admission that you can't find any cases of Conservative trolling, spamming, and hate posts in liberal threads. This thread, even the Version IV portion of it, contains quite a few examples making my point however.


Admittedly, the "sacred and heathens" were added unnecessarily by me-got carried away a little this morning.

However, the fact remains you said nothing about any Bush non supporters coming onto the thread in the post of which I responded with "pot meet kettle." But rather you said; well I just repost it so that I don't get accused of mischaracterizing your post.

To make it doubly clear, yours (foxfyre) post will be in Dark Red. My post (revel) will be in Indigo.


Foxfrye said:
Quote:
Well we do consider the source as we consider all you wonderful Bush supporters who provide your pithy and insightful comments no matter how rude, wrong, or irresponsible they might be. Either the most flaming liberals are the most judgmental, hateful, and irresponsible people on earth as a group, or they are the most stupid in the way they attempt to sell their ideology by trashing anybody with a different point of view on any issue.


revel said:
Quote:
pot meet kettle


You see nothing said about any bush non supporters in the post of yours I responded with "pot meet kettle." Completely unrelated to your rant of bush non supporters coming onto this thread.

But if it makes you feel better, you're probably right, there aren't any conservatives on the Democrats gloat thread and there are bush non supporters on this bush aftermath thread. I guess you guys are just irresistible.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 01:27 pm
We just like to make sure misinformation doesn't overtake truth, such as Bush never lies.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 26 Feb, 2007 01:39 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
revel wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
revel wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Well we do consider the source as we consider all you wonderful Bush supporters who provide your pithy and insightful comments no matter how rude, wrong, or irresponsible they might be. Either the most flaming liberals are the most judgmental, hateful, and irresponsible people on earth as a group, or they are the most stupid in the way they attempt to sell their ideology by trashing anybody with a different point of view on any issue.


Pot meet kettle


Really? Would you like to cite illustrations of conservatives coming onto liberal threads for the purpose of saying hateful, antagonistic, and/or stupid things? Peruse the Democrat Gloat thread for instance, not that you guys seem to be able to keep that going, and see how many instances of trolling, spamming, and/or hateful attack posts you can find from the conservatives there, at least on a scale anywhere near approximating the trolls, spammers, and anti-Bush, anti-conservative hate posts that are regularly posted on this thread.

Take your time. I'll wait.

Again I have no problem with those who come onto this thread for the purpose of engaging in constructive differences in points of view. Such are welcomed and encouraged and don't receive any grief whatsoever from those of us who asked for one thread in which we could discuss conservative issues without nasty harrassment from the trolls.


This whole posts is completely not connected to comments which led to my commenting, "pot meet kettle." For proof there is need to go further than this post.

You didn't say anything about this sacred thread which we heathens have come onto in your post which is quoted at the top of this post and which I responded with "pot meet kettle." You said how rude, wrong and irresponsible our posts are. I consider yours and some of your fellow conservative just as rude, wrong, and irresponsible.

There is no need to go dragging post even if I could do it right, posters that have been here for awhile probably already know what each of is talking about and have their own views of it.


Well apart from the fact that you are reading more into my post than what I wrote and a lot of what you are saying in this post makes no sense at all, I'll take this as a sort of twisted admission that you can't find any cases of Conservative trolling, spamming, and hate posts in liberal threads. This thread, even the Version IV portion of it, contains quite a few examples making my point however.


That's the whole point; there are no 'liberal' or 'conservative' threads here on A2K. You don't get special privileges to post in certain places just because you are of a certain political bent.

If you're looking to post and talk to Conservatives or Bush Supporters only, you're in the wrong place completely. I would suggest a different website.

Cycloptichorn


Jespah didn't repeat it when he unexplainably locked Version III and started this thread. But if you had read the thread starter of the other three versions and/or read the pleadings and opinions of Conservatives in this thread, you would khow that the PURPOSE of this thread is for people who don't despise George W. Bush to be able discuss conservative issues without harrassment from hateful trolls. We are happy to discuss the pros and cons of those issues and that's why reasonable, intelligent liberals are also welcome here.

Those that are here to troll, spam, spout stupid hate quotes and criticize/betlittle/demean/insult members they disagree with will generally receive a less hospitable welcome here. There are dozens and dozens of other active threads where such is the norm and Bush bashing won't generate any negative response at all.

Comprende?
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