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Bush Supporters' Aftermath Thread IV

 
 
old europe
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 10:38 am
Here is UN Resolution 1441:

Quote:
[Adopted as Resolution 1441 at Security Council meeting 4644, 8 November 2002]

The Security Council,

Recalling all its previous relevant resolutions, in particular its resolutions 661 (1990) of 6 August 1990, 678 (1990) of 29 November 1990, 686 (1991) of 2 March 1991, 687 (1991) of 3 April 1991, 688 (1991) of 5 April 1991, 707 (1991) of 15 August 1991, 715 (1991) of 11 October 1991, 986 (1995) of 14 April 1995, and 1284 (1999) of 17 December 1999, and all the relevant statements of its President,

Recalling also its resolution 1382 (2001) of 29 November 2001 and its intention to implement it fully,

Recognizing the threat Iraq's non-compliance with Council resolutions and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles poses to international peace and security,

Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use all necessary means to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August 1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore international peace and security in the area,

Further recalling that its resolution 687 (1991) imposed obligations on Iraq as a necessary step for achievement of its stated objective of restoring international peace and security in the area,

Deploring the fact that Iraq has not provided an accurate, full, final, and complete disclosure, as required by resolution 687 (1991), of all aspects of its programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles with a range greater than one hundred and fifty kilometres, and of all holdings of such weapons, their components and production facilities and locations, as well as all other nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to nuclear-weapons-usable material,

Deploring further that Iraq repeatedly obstructed immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access to sites designated by the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), failed to cooperate fully and unconditionally with UNSCOM and IAEA weapons inspectors, as required by resolution 687 (1991), and ultimately ceased all cooperation with UNSCOM and the IAEA in 1998,

Deploring the absence, since December 1998, in Iraq of international monitoring, inspection, and verification, as required by relevant resolutions, of weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles, in spite of the Council's repeated demands that Iraq provide immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access to the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC), established in resolution 1284 (1999) as the successor organization to UNSCOM, and the IAEA, and regretting the consequent prolonging of the crisis in the region and the suffering of the Iraqi people,

Deploring also that the Government of Iraq has failed to comply with its commitments pursuant to resolution 687 (1991) with regard to terrorism, pursuant to resolution 688 (1991) to end repression of its civilian population and to provide access by international humanitarian organizations to all those in need of assistance in Iraq, and pursuant to resolutions 686 (1991), 687 (1991), and 1284 (1999) to return or cooperate in accounting for Kuwaiti and third country nationals wrongfully detained by Iraq, or to return Kuwaiti property wrongfully seized by Iraq,

Recalling that in its resolution 687 (1991) the Council declared that a ceasefire would be based on acceptance by Iraq of the provisions of that resolution, including the obligations on Iraq contained therein,

Determined to ensure full and immediate compliance by Iraq without conditions or restrictions with its obligations under resolution 687 (1991) and other relevant resolutions and recalling that the resolutions of the Council constitute the governing standard of Iraqi compliance,

Recalling that the effective operation of UNMOVIC, as the successor organization to the Special Commission, and the IAEA is essential for the implementation of resolution 687 (1991) and other relevant resolutions,

Noting the letter dated 16 September 2002 from the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Iraq addressed to the Secretary-General is a necessary first step toward rectifying Iraq's continued failure to comply with relevant Council resolutions,

Noting further the letter dated 8 October 2002 from the Executive Chairman of UNMOVIC and the Director-General of the IAEA to General Al-Saadi of the Government of Iraq laying out the practical arrangements, as a follow-up to their meeting in Vienna, that are prerequisites for the resumption of inspections in Iraq by UNMOVIC and the IAEA, and expressing the gravest concern at the continued failure by the Government of Iraq to provide confirmation of the arrangements as laid out in that letter,

Reaffirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Iraq, Kuwait, and the neighbouring States,

Commending the Secretary-General and members of the League of Arab States and its Secretary-General for their efforts in this regard,

Determined to secure full compliance with its decisions,

Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations,

1. Decides that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its obligations under relevant resolutions, including resolution 687 (1991), in particular through Iraq's failure to cooperate with United Nations inspectors and the IAEA, and to complete the actions required under paragraphs 8 to 13 of resolution 687 (1991);

2. Decides, while acknowledging paragraph 1 above, to afford Iraq, by this resolution, a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations under relevant resolutions of the Council; and accordingly decides to set up an enhanced inspection regime with the aim of bringing to full and verified completion the disarmament process established by resolution 687 (1991) and subsequent resolutions of the Council;

3. Decides that, in order to begin to comply with its disarmament obligations, in addition to submitting the required biannual declarations, the Government of Iraq shall provide to UNMOVIC, the IAEA, and the Council, not later than 30 days from the date of this resolution, a currently accurate, full, and complete declaration of all aspects of its programmes to develop chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, and other delivery systems such as unmanned aerial vehicles and dispersal systems designed for use on aircraft, including any holdings and precise locations of such weapons, components, sub-components, stocks of agents, and related material and equipment, the locations and work of its research, development and production facilities, as well as all other chemical, biological, and nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to weapon production or material;

4. Decides that false statements or omissions in the declarations submitted by Iraq pursuant to this resolution and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with, and cooperate fully in the implementation of, this resolution shall constitute a further material breach of Iraq's obligations and will be reported to the Council for assessment in accordance with paragraphs 11 and 12 below;

5. Decides that Iraq shall provide UNMOVIC and the IAEA immediate, unimpeded, unconditional, and unrestricted access to any and all, including underground, areas, facilities, buildings, equipment, records, and means of transport which they wish to inspect, as well as immediate, unimpeded, unrestricted, and private access to all officials and other persons whom UNMOVIC or the IAEA wish to interview in the mode or location of UNMOVIC's or the IAEA's choice pursuant to any aspect of their mandates; further decides that UNMOVIC and the IAEA may at their discretion conduct interviews inside or outside of Iraq, may facilitate the travel of those interviewed and family members outside of Iraq, and that, at the sole discretion of UNMOVIC and the IAEA, such interviews may occur without the presence of observers from the Iraqi Government; and instructs UNMOVIC and requests the IAEA to resume inspections no later than 45 days following adoption of this resolution and to update the Council 60 days thereafter;

6. Endorses the 8 October 2002 letter from the Executive Chairman of UNMOVIC and the Director-General of the IAEA to General Al-Saadi of the Government of Iraq, which is annexed hereto, and decides that the contents of the letter shall be binding upon Iraq;

7. Decides further that, in view of the prolonged interruption by Iraq of the presence of UNMOVIC and the IAEA and in order for them to accomplish the tasks set forth in this resolution and all previous relevant resolutions and notwithstanding prior understandings, the Council hereby establishes the following revised or additional authorities, which shall be binding upon Iraq, to facilitate their work in Iraq:

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall determine the composition of their inspection teams and ensure that these teams are composed of the most qualified and experienced experts available;

- All UNMOVIC and IAEA personnel shall enjoy the privileges and immunities, corresponding to those of experts on mission, provided in the Convention on Privileges and Immunities of the United Nations and the Agreement on the Privileges and Immunities of the IAEA;

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have unrestricted rights of entry into and out of Iraq, the right to free, unrestricted, and immediate movement to and from inspection sites, and the right to inspect any sites and buildings, including immediate, unimpeded, unconditional, and unrestricted access to Presidential Sites equal to that at other sites, notwithstanding the provisions of resolution 1154 (1998);

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the right to be provided by Iraq the names of all personnel currently and formerly associated with Iraq's chemical, biological, nuclear, and ballistic missile programmes and the associated research, development, and production facilities;

- Security of UNMOVIC and IAEA facilities shall be ensured by sufficient United Nations security guards;

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the right to declare, for the purposes of freezing a site to be inspected, exclusion zones, including surrounding areas and transit corridors, in which Iraq will suspend ground and aerial movement so that nothing is changed in or taken out of a site being inspected;

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the free and unrestricted use and landing of fixed- and rotary-winged aircraft, including manned and unmanned reconnaissance vehicles;

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the right at their sole discretion verifiably to remove, destroy, or render harmless all prohibited weapons, subsystems, components, records, materials, and other related items, and the right to impound or close any facilities or equipment for the production thereof; and

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the right to free import and use of equipment or materials for inspections and to seize and export any equipment, materials, or documents taken during inspections, without search of UNMOVIC or IAEA personnel or official or personal baggage;

8. Decides further that Iraq shall not take or threaten hostile acts directed against any representative or personnel of the United Nations or the IAEA or of any Member State taking action to uphold any Council resolution;

9. Requests the Secretary-General immediately to notify Iraq of this resolution, which is binding on Iraq; demands that Iraq confirm within seven days of that notification its intention to comply fully with this resolution; and demands further that Iraq cooperate immediately, unconditionally, and actively with UNMOVIC and the IAEA;

10. Requests all Member States to give full support to UNMOVIC and the IAEA in the discharge of their mandates, including by providing any information related to prohibited programmes or other aspects of their mandates, including on Iraqi attempts since 1998 to acquire prohibited items, and by recommending sites to be inspected, persons to be interviewed, conditions of such interviews, and data to be collected, the results of which shall be reported to the Council by UNMOVIC and the IAEA;

11. Directs the Executive Chairman of UNMOVIC and the Director-General of the IAEA to report immediately to the Council any interference by Iraq with inspection activities, as well as any failure by Iraq to comply with its disarmament obligations, including its obligations regarding inspections under this resolution;

12. Decides to convene immediately upon receipt of a report in accordance with paragraphs 4 or 11 above, in order to consider the situation and the need for full compliance with all of the relevant Council resolutions in order to secure international peace and security;

13. Recalls, in that context, that the Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations;

14. Decides to remain seized of the matter.



Here is a highlighter:

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Now, could somebody point out to me where exactly Resolution 1441 authorizes Member States to use all necessary means?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 10:38 am
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old europe
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 10:44 am
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 10:44 am
old europe wrote:
Here is UN Resolution 1441:

Quote:
[Adopted as Resolution 1441 at Security Council meeting 4644, 8 November 2002]

The Security Council,

Recalling all its previous relevant resolutions, in particular its resolutions 661 (1990) of 6 August 1990, 678 (1990) of 29 November 1990, 686 (1991) of 2 March 1991, 687 (1991) of 3 April 1991, 688 (1991) of 5 April 1991, 707 (1991) of 15 August 1991, 715 (1991) of 11 October 1991, 986 (1995) of 14 April 1995, and 1284 (1999) of 17 December 1999, and all the relevant statements of its President,

Recalling also its resolution 1382 (2001) of 29 November 2001 and its intention to implement it fully,

Recognizing the threat Iraq's non-compliance with Council resolutions and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles poses to international peace and security,

Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use all necessary means to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August 1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore international peace and security in the area,

Further recalling that its resolution 687 (1991) imposed obligations on Iraq as a necessary step for achievement of its stated objective of restoring international peace and security in the area,

Deploring the fact that Iraq has not provided an accurate, full, final, and complete disclosure, as required by resolution 687 (1991), of all aspects of its programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles with a range greater than one hundred and fifty kilometres, and of all holdings of such weapons, their components and production facilities and locations, as well as all other nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to nuclear-weapons-usable material,


Deploring further that Iraq repeatedly obstructed immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access to sites designated by the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), failed to cooperate fully and unconditionally with UNSCOM and IAEA weapons inspectors, as required by resolution 687 (1991), and ultimately ceased all cooperation with UNSCOM and the IAEA in 1998,

Deploring the absence, since December 1998, in Iraq of international monitoring, inspection, and verification, as required by relevant resolutions, of weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles, in spite of the Council's repeated demands that Iraq provide immediate, unconditional, and unrestricted access to the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC), established in resolution 1284 (1999) as the successor organization to UNSCOM, and the IAEA, and regretting the consequent prolonging of the crisis in the region and the suffering of the Iraqi people,

Deploring also that the Government of Iraq has failed to comply with its commitments pursuant to resolution 687 (1991) with regard to terrorism, pursuant to resolution 688 (1991) to end repression of its civilian population and to provide access by international humanitarian organizations to all those in need of assistance in Iraq, and pursuant to resolutions 686 (1991), 687 (1991), and 1284 (1999) to return or cooperate in accounting for Kuwaiti and third country nationals wrongfully detained by Iraq, or to return Kuwaiti property wrongfully seized by Iraq,

Recalling that in its resolution 687 (1991) the Council declared that a ceasefire would be based on acceptance by Iraq of the provisions of that resolution, including the obligations on Iraq contained therein,

Determined to ensure full and immediate compliance by Iraq without conditions or restrictions with its obligations under resolution 687 (1991) and other relevant resolutions and recalling that the resolutions of the Council constitute the governing standard of Iraqi compliance,

Recalling that the effective operation of UNMOVIC, as the successor organization to the Special Commission, and the IAEA is essential for the implementation of resolution 687 (1991) and other relevant resolutions,

Noting the letter dated 16 September 2002 from the Minister for Foreign Affairs of Iraq addressed to the Secretary-General is a necessary first step toward rectifying Iraq's continued failure to comply with relevant Council resolutions,

Noting further the letter dated 8 October 2002 from the Executive Chairman of UNMOVIC and the Director-General of the IAEA to General Al-Saadi of the Government of Iraq laying out the practical arrangements, as a follow-up to their meeting in Vienna, that are prerequisites for the resumption of inspections in Iraq by UNMOVIC and the IAEA, and expressing the gravest concern at the continued failure by the Government of Iraq to provide confirmation of the arrangements as laid out in that letter,

Reaffirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Iraq, Kuwait, and the neighbouring States,

Commending the Secretary-General and members of the League of Arab States and its Secretary-General for their efforts in this regard,

Determined to secure full compliance with its decisions,

Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations,

1. Decides that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its obligations under relevant resolutions, including resolution 687 (1991), in particular through Iraq's failure to cooperate with United Nations inspectors and the IAEA, and to complete the actions required under paragraphs 8 to 13 of resolution 687 (1991);

2. Decides, while acknowledging paragraph 1 above, to afford Iraq, by this resolution, a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations under relevant resolutions of the Council; and accordingly decides to set up an enhanced inspection regime with the aim of bringing to full and verified completion the disarmament process established by resolution 687 (1991) and subsequent resolutions of the Council;

3. Decides that, in order to begin to comply with its disarmament obligations, in addition to submitting the required biannual declarations, the Government of Iraq shall provide to UNMOVIC, the IAEA, and the Council, not later than 30 days from the date of this resolution, a currently accurate, full, and complete declaration of all aspects of its programmes to develop chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, and other delivery systems such as unmanned aerial vehicles and dispersal systems designed for use on aircraft, including any holdings and precise locations of such weapons, components, sub-components, stocks of agents, and related material and equipment, the locations and work of its research, development and production facilities, as well as all other chemical, biological, and nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to weapon production or material;

4. Decides that false statements or omissions in the declarations submitted by Iraq pursuant to this resolution and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with, and cooperate fully in the implementation of, this resolution shall constitute a further material breach of Iraq's obligations and will be reported to the Council for assessment in accordance with paragraphs 11 and 12 below;

5. Decides that Iraq shall provide UNMOVIC and the IAEA immediate, unimpeded, unconditional, and unrestricted access to any and all, including underground, areas, facilities, buildings, equipment, records, and means of transport which they wish to inspect, as well as immediate, unimpeded, unrestricted, and private access to all officials and other persons whom UNMOVIC or the IAEA wish to interview in the mode or location of UNMOVIC's or the IAEA's choice pursuant to any aspect of their mandates; further decides that UNMOVIC and the IAEA may at their discretion conduct interviews inside or outside of Iraq, may facilitate the travel of those interviewed and family members outside of Iraq, and that, at the sole discretion of UNMOVIC and the IAEA, such interviews may occur without the presence of observers from the Iraqi Government; and instructs UNMOVIC and requests the IAEA to resume inspections no later than 45 days following adoption of this resolution and to update the Council 60 days thereafter;

6. Endorses the 8 October 2002 letter from the Executive Chairman of UNMOVIC and the Director-General of the IAEA to General Al-Saadi of the Government of Iraq, which is annexed hereto, and decides that the contents of the letter shall be binding upon Iraq;

7. Decides further that, in view of the prolonged interruption by Iraq of the presence of UNMOVIC and the IAEA and in order for them to accomplish the tasks set forth in this resolution and all previous relevant resolutions and notwithstanding prior understandings, the Council hereby establishes the following revised or additional authorities, which shall be binding upon Iraq, to facilitate their work in Iraq:

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall determine the composition of their inspection teams and ensure that these teams are composed of the most qualified and experienced experts available;

- All UNMOVIC and IAEA personnel shall enjoy the privileges and immunities, corresponding to those of experts on mission, provided in the Convention on Privileges and Immunities of the United Nations and the Agreement on the Privileges and Immunities of the IAEA;

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have unrestricted rights of entry into and out of Iraq, the right to free, unrestricted, and immediate movement to and from inspection sites, and the right to inspect any sites and buildings, including immediate, unimpeded, unconditional, and unrestricted access to Presidential Sites equal to that at other sites, notwithstanding the provisions of resolution 1154 (1998);

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the right to be provided by Iraq the names of all personnel currently and formerly associated with Iraq's chemical, biological, nuclear, and ballistic missile programmes and the associated research, development, and production facilities;

- Security of UNMOVIC and IAEA facilities shall be ensured by sufficient United Nations security guards;

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the right to declare, for the purposes of freezing a site to be inspected, exclusion zones, including surrounding areas and transit corridors, in which Iraq will suspend ground and aerial movement so that nothing is changed in or taken out of a site being inspected;

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the free and unrestricted use and landing of fixed- and rotary-winged aircraft, including manned and unmanned reconnaissance vehicles;

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the right at their sole discretion verifiably to remove, destroy, or render harmless all prohibited weapons, subsystems, components, records, materials, and other related items, and the right to impound or close any facilities or equipment for the production thereof; and

- UNMOVIC and the IAEA shall have the right to free import and use of equipment or materials for inspections and to seize and export any equipment, materials, or documents taken during inspections, without search of UNMOVIC or IAEA personnel or official or personal baggage;

8. Decides further that Iraq shall not take or threaten hostile acts directed against any representative or personnel of the United Nations or the IAEA or of any Member State taking action to uphold any Council resolution;

9. Requests the Secretary-General immediately to notify Iraq of this resolution, which is binding on Iraq; demands that Iraq confirm within seven days of that notification its intention to comply fully with this resolution; and demands further that Iraq cooperate immediately, unconditionally, and actively with UNMOVIC and the IAEA;

10. Requests all Member States to give full support to UNMOVIC and the IAEA in the discharge of their mandates, including by providing any information related to prohibited programmes or other aspects of their mandates, including on Iraqi attempts since 1998 to acquire prohibited items, and by recommending sites to be inspected, persons to be interviewed, conditions of such interviews, and data to be collected, the results of which shall be reported to the Council by UNMOVIC and the IAEA;

11. Directs the Executive Chairman of UNMOVIC and the Director-General of the IAEA to report immediately to the Council any interference by Iraq with inspection activities, as well as any failure by Iraq to comply with its disarmament obligations, including its obligations regarding inspections under this resolution;

12. Decides to convene immediately upon receipt of a report in accordance with paragraphs 4 or 11 above, in order to consider the situation and the need for full compliance with all of the relevant Council resolutions in order to secure international peace and security;

13. Recalls, in that context, that the Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations;

14. Decides to remain seized of the matter.



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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 10:45 am
You and your cartoonist of choice are scraping the barrel now, McG.

Tasteless, unfunny, pig-headed and untrue.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 10:49 am
McTag wrote:
You and your cartoonist of choice are scraping the barrel now, McG.

Tasteless, unfunny, pig-headed and untrue.


Just for you.

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 10:50 am
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 10:52 am
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old europe
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 10:55 am
Thank you McGentrix. I shortened it a bit to what you regard as the relevant passages:


McGentrix wrote:
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The Security Council,

Recalling all its previous relevant resolutions, in particular its resolutions 661 (1990) of 6 August 1990, 678 (1990) of 29 November 1990, 686 (1991) of 2 March 1991, 687 (1991) of 3 April 1991, 688 (1991) of 5 April 1991, 707 (1991) of 15 August 1991, 715 (1991) of 11 October 1991, 986 (1995) of 14 April 1995, and 1284 (1999) of 17 December 1999, and all the relevant statements of its President,

Recalling also its resolution 1382 (2001) of 29 November 2001 and its intention to implement it fully,

Recognizing the threat Iraq's non-compliance with Council resolutions and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles poses to international peace and security,

Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use all necessary means to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August 1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore international peace and security in the area,

Further recalling that its resolution 687 (1991) imposed obligations on Iraq as a necessary step for achievement of its stated objective of restoring international peace and security in the area,

Deploring the fact that Iraq has not provided an accurate, full, final, and complete disclosure, as required by resolution 687 (1991), of all aspects of its programmes to develop weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles with a range greater than one hundred and fifty kilometres, and of all holdings of such weapons, their components and production facilities and locations, as well as all other nuclear programmes, including any which it claims are for purposes not related to nuclear-weapons-usable material,

1. Decides that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its obligations under relevant resolutions, including resolution 687 (1991), in particular through Iraq's failure to cooperate with United Nations inspectors and the IAEA, and to complete the actions required under paragraphs 8 to 13 of resolution 687 (1991);

2. Decides, while acknowledging paragraph 1 above, to afford Iraq, by this resolution, a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations under relevant resolutions of the Council;

13. Recalls, in that context, that the Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations of its obligations;



Now, in the part you highlighted, the Security Council recalls, recalls, recognizes, recalls, recalls, deplores, decides and recalls.

Apparently, it never authorizes, though.

I think we are in agreement that Resolution 678 (which gave the mandate for the Gulf War) authorized something when it said

Quote:
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2. Authorizes Member States co-operating with the Government of Kuwait, unless Iraq on or before 15 January 1991 fully implements, as set forth in paragraph 1 above, the above-mentioned resolutions, to use all necessary means to uphold and implement resolution 660 (1990) and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area;


I can't find anything like that in the part you highlighted. Apparently, it's not there.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 11:45 am
McG, "I got your back" cartoon is wrong; it's the Bush administration that has stabbed our vets in the back by not providing medical care to those returning from Iraq. We've also known for a long time that our troops are not properly equipped to fight in this war; that's the reason why those humvies are being bombed regularly with more of our troops getting killed and maimed. If you really cared about our troops, you would know Bush failed through incompetence and mismanagement of this war.

You probably missed that important revelation this week that showed how bad our troops returning from Iraq with injury are being treated, and how the hospitals are falling apart. In response, they assisgned a general to take care of this "new" problem. You guys will never "get it."
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 11:53 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
McG, "I got your back" cartoon is wrong; it's the Bush administration that has stabbed our vets in the back by not providing medical care to those returning from Iraq.


The VA has a staff the is responsible for the care of Vets. They are to blame, but you are obviously too blind to see that.

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We've also known for a long time that our troops are not properly equipped to fight in this war; that's the reason why those humvies are being bombed regularly with more of our troops getting killed and maimed.


And all this time I thought it was the explosive devices set on the sides of the road that was blowing up our troops. We sent exploding humvees... that explains it all now.

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If you really cared about our troops, you would know Bush failed through incompetence and mismanagement of this war.

You probably missed that important revelation this week that showed how bad our troops returning from Iraq with injury are being treated, and how the hospitals are falling apart. In response, they assigned a general to take care of this "new" problem. You guys will never "get it."


So, the VA has been caught with it's pants down and now the administration has another mess to clean up due to the mis-management of a government agency... Yet, as with every other problem, the retarded blame Bush.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 11:54 am
The buck stops at the top. If he can't take the heat, he should remove himself from the kitchen.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 01:49 pm
The exquisitely complex and qualified language of the Security Council resolutions, replete as it is with cross references to previous resolutions and the manifold variety of interpretations they enable, is an ample demonstration of their fundamental deficiencies as something that could ever be considered as "law". The contending parties on the Security Council (the U.S. included) all did their to create this ambiguity, and all made use of it to further their aims.

The bottom line is that the UN Charter does not prohibit all conflict or use of arms without explicit authorization by the Security Council. Insted it establishes guidelines for such conflict and calls on the Security Council to address such matters. In practice the Security Council has been quite selective in those conflicts which it chooses to address at all. In some cases it has merely gone on record, after the fact, in decrying varuious acts of aggression, but stopping short of condemning the perpetrator. China's seizure of Tibet is a case in point. As a matter of practical fact the UN has not been a generally effective guarantor of the safety and security of established nations, and its writs, qualified and ambiguous as they usually are, are routinely ignored with impunity.

In notin this, I do not fault the UN in particular, It is, and can be, no more than what its member nations permit it to be. The world is still ruled by sovereign states, and international law continues to be defined by what they generally accept and enforce. Nothing more.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 01:52 pm
Just for the edification of those interested in the truth. I wonder how much the Bush bashers complained about the VA underfunding in the previous administration?

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My remarks this morning will be divided into two sections. I will speak first as Attorney General of the State of Idaho regarding a lawsuit my office was forced to bring as a result of the Clinton Administration's illegal attempts to withhold certain veterans benefits to Idaho veterans. I will also speak on behalf of the American Legion - Department of Idaho, and as consultant to the American Legion's National Legislative Commission.
http://www.house.gov/va/hearings/schedule105/june98/6-30-98field/tal6-30-98.html


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Budget Committee Agrees to Increase Veterans' Funding By $1 Billion More Than the New Administration's Budget Proposal (Washington, DC) - After a two-month, full-court press by the Committee on Veterans' Affairs for increased funding of veterans' services, the Chairman, Chris Smith of New Jersey, today hailed the decision of the Budget Committee to increase funding by 12% for the Department of Veterans' Affairs, up $5.6 billion over last year - including $1 billion more than the Bush Administration's budget proposal - calling it a "breakthrough budget increase."

"I have said all along that the Bush budget was a work in progress - and that we would do more," Smith said. "Today's stunning 12% increase in funding is a small price to pay compared to the personal sacrifices made by the men and women who have protected our nation, in peace and in war, and whose lives have forever been changed by their experiences," said Smith. "This victory is a victory for all veterans, especially those who continue to suffer from the disabling effects of war wounds or from lingering mental illnesses connected to their service. They answered the call and now we must do the same," Smith said.

"Since the first days of the 107th Congress, we have relentlessly made the case for increasing funding of veterans' services in light of unconscionable underfunding by the Clinton Administration which has exacerbated delays endured by veterans waiting for medical appointments or adjudication of compensation claims," said Smith. "Today's decision by the Budget Committee to increase funding for the Department of Veterans' Affairs by a whopping $5.6 billion - which adds a billion dollars on top of the Administration's proposal - is a breakthrough budget increase that finally begins to address the VA's backlog, as well as provide funding to cover vital unmet services for the men and women who have so bravely worn the uniform in defense of our freedom," he said.

http://www.amvetspost2.org/news/va_funding_increase.htm

And this from Factcheck.org
http://www.factcheck.org/article144.html
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 01:55 pm
You're correct, George.

It should be noted as well that most wars after Korea weren't "officially" wars but 'armed conflicts', 'police actions', 'military actions' etc - e.g. the Vietnam War.
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old europe
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 01:58 pm
McGentrix wrote:
http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/070221/gorrell.jpg





I seem to remember that cartoon.... The Leftists at home, stabbing the troops in the back... Now, where have I seen it last time? Ah, yes, right here:






http://www.fkoester.de/kursbuch/img/13_2/Dolchstoss.gif
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 02:02 pm
Foxfire's point about the VA is well-taken. Bush instituted a fairly large shakeup of the VA during his first term. Quite a lot of bureaucratic deadwood was swept away, facilities were modernized, and significant improvements in patient services were instituted. I get periodic eveluations at the local VA hospital for followup of injuries sustained in a couple of ejections from fighters two decades ago. The service and patient care are better than I encounter routinely in the UC San Francisco Medical Center (reputed to be the best in the area) or at Johns Hopkins when I lived in the Washington area..
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old europe
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 02:05 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
The exquisitely complex and qualified language of the Security Council resolutions, replete as it is with cross references to previous resolutions and the manifold variety of interpretations they enable, is an ample demonstration of their fundamental deficiencies as something that could ever be considered as "law". The contending parties on the Security Council (the U.S. included) all did their to create this ambiguity, and all made use of it to further their aims.


Nonsense, george. I really ask you to compare Resolution 1441 (or 678 or any other UN resolution, for that matter) to the Joint Resolution of Congress, the AUMF.

You will find exactly the same "exquisitely complex and qualified language", and you will find that there, too, all the contending parties "did theirs to create this ambiguity, and all made use of it to further their aims".

Would you suggest that a resolution by the US Congress therefore cannot be considered to have any legal binding?

That has been your worst argument so far in this whole legality discussion.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 02:10 pm
Further on the VA affairs

Quote:
WASHINGTON - Secretary of Veterans Affairs Jim Nicholson announced today that President Bush will seek a record $70.8 billion in the fiscal year 2006 budget for the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), with the overwhelming majority of these resources targeted for health care and disability compensation.

http://www1.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=941

Quote:
(Washington, DC) U.S. Senator Larry Craig, Chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs, said that today's proposed record $80.6 billion budget for the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs next year brings both good news for veterans, and a reality check for Congress.

"The President has always made it clear that military veterans are among his highest priorities, and he has demonstrated that today with this budget," Craig said. Under the leadership of President Bush, VA's budget has increased more than 50 percent since 2001.
http://veterans.senate.gov/index.cfm?
FuseAction=Newsroom.PressReleases&id=445
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Thu 22 Feb, 2007 02:16 pm
georgeob1 wrote:
Foxfire's point about the VA is well-taken. Bush instituted a fairly large shakeup of the VA during his first term. Quite a lot of bureaucratic deadwood was swept away, facilities were modernized, and significant improvements in patient services were instituted. I get periodic eveluations at the local VA hospital for followup of injuries sustained in a couple of ejections from fighters two decades ago. The service and patient care are better than I encounter routinely in the UC San Francisco Medical Center (reputed to be the best in the area) or at Johns Hopkins when I lived in the Washington area..


According to my friend, a doctor at the local VA hospital here, there are some areas of funding that were decreased while others increased, most of which she enthusiastically approves. Obviously you'll never have a budget in which everybody gets everything they want in any case.

But those Democrats who accuse the Bush administration of cutting VA funding are all wet. It is true that all the requests were not granted; if they had been the budget would have run into the trillions. But then in Democrat math, any cut in a request is a cut in funding. Smile
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