Bush Supporters' Aftermath Thread IV

However, I still wonder just what in the hell was old europe's point?

What I see happening is a bunch of mongrel liberals, that can't stomach people that may think differently than them, trying to shut down any opposition thinking or conversation by heaping their doggerel and scorn about the various threads on this political forum.

If the war is going so badly,why dont the dems cut off the funding?
Wouldnt that solve the problem by ending the money for the war?

Also,if we withdraw totally from Iraq,what then?
What happens after that?

Europe spent a generation in the shade during the Cold war, focused on healing its internal wounds and becoming a mere critic of what went on around it. An understandable process in view of the circumstances, but a luxury it can no longer afford in today's world.

georgeob1 wrote:

Europe spent a generation in the shade during the Cold war, focused on healing its internal wounds and becoming a mere critic of what went on around it. An understandable process in view of the circumstances, but a luxury it can no longer afford in today's world.

I suppose many - like me and/or especially the older geration - who have lived during that period (and I was even "engaged" in the Cold War as a conscript/reserve officer) have a different view.

Europe lived in the "shade" of the US during the cold war.
You may have been in the reserves,but Europe knew they were protected by the US military and its nuclear umbrella during the cold war.

mysteryman wrote:

Europe lived in the "shade" of the US during the cold war.
You may have been in the reserves,but Europe knew they were protected by the US military and its nuclear umbrella during the cold war.

Of course, you're only referring to the part of Europe that didn't live in the shade of the USSR and that was protected by the Soviet military and its nuclear umbrella.

It's a cartoon in a thread titled Bush Supporters Aftermath. Take your issues and shove them up your a$$.

What I see happening is a bunch of mongrel liberals, that can't stomach people that may think differently than them, trying to shut down any opposition thinking or conversation by heaping their doggerel and scorn about the various threads on this political forum.

I take issue with that and I will post whatever cartoons, op-ed pieces, opinions or thoughts I damn well please. Just as you will I am sure.

What I take issue with, though, is the concept evident in McG's cartoon - that those voicing dissent with the war in Iraq will be the doom of the troops. That if the war in Iraq is going to be lost, it will not be because of the troops or the Commander in Chief, but merely because of the Democrats in Congress or the leftists in general.

It's the material legends are made of. Until the end of the First World War, the German population had been told, on a daily basis, that Germany was winning the war. That German troops were advancing. That Germany was the superior power, compared to France and Russia. Does that sound familiar, so far?

So, as you know, the vast majority of the population was completely dumbfounded when the emperor and the army announced that Germany had surrendered.

Of course, the result was a legend that attributed Germany's defeat to domestic factors instead of strategic military failures. The result was that, lacking a severe analysis of the quagmire of WWI, Germans happily followed the Nazi party a couple of years later into the next, even bigger quagmire.

What I see happening when people like McG post cartoons like the above one is a severe disconnect with reality, a lacking ability to analyse the strategic failures and the shortcomings of the administration, and a willingness to conveniently attribute the quagmire that the Iraq adventure has become to noone but the Democrats.