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THE US, THE UN AND IRAQ, ELEVENTH THREAD

 
 
xingu
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 06:55 pm
ican711nm wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:

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Did you see my link to a possible Turkey dust-up? What a fiasco that would be!

Cycloptichorn

Yes, I did see your link. And if that happened both the Kurds and the Turks would have a mess on their hands.


And we won't?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 08:35 pm
xingu wrote:
ican711nm wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:

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Did you see my link to a possible Turkey dust-up? What a fiasco that would be!

Cycloptichorn

Yes, I did see your link. And if that happened both the Kurds and the Turks would have a mess on their hands.


And we won't?

Gee, I thought you believe that we can solve this whole thing by leaving. If the Turks invade the Kurds, we can run like hell.
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xingu
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 09:38 pm
ican711nm wrote:
xingu wrote:
ican711nm wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:

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Did you see my link to a possible Turkey dust-up? What a fiasco that would be!

Cycloptichorn

Yes, I did see your link. And if that happened both the Kurds and the Turks would have a mess on their hands.


And we won't?

Gee, I thought you believe that we can solve this whole thing by leaving. If the Turks invade the Kurds, we can run like hell.


What a dumb response.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 09:41 pm
ican doesn't understand that sooner or later (it doesn't matter when the US leaves), the Turks and Kurds are gonna have a war. This one started long before 9-11, and will last long after we're gone.
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xingu
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 09:57 pm
Quote:
The Malleable World of the Neo Cons.

Ernest Partridge
The Crisis Papers.
February 20, 2007

"A hegemon is nothing more or less than a leader with preponderant influence and authority over all others in its domain. That is America's position in the world today.... [P]eace and American security depend on American power and the will to use it... American hegemony is the only reliable defense against a breakdown of peace and international order. The appropriate goal of American foreign policy, therefore, is to preserve that hegemony as far into the future as possible."
William Kristol and Robert Kagan

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Lord Acton

With the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991, the United States became the sole remaining super-power. Many saw this extraordinary situation as an opportunity at last for world disarmament, a concerted attack on poverty and disease, and global harmony under a rule of international law.

Not the neo conservatives.

Instead, they announced, this was to be "The American Century" - a "benevolent global hegemony" imposed upon the world by the sole remaining super-power, the United States. In this new world order, the United States would renounce treaties and international law at will if they were found to be contrary to the interests of the "hegemon." Military action by the super power would be taken "preventatively" if there was a perceived possibility that an upstart nation might resist the imposed global order. Aggressive initiatives would be taken to assure that no rival super power would arise to challenge the global hegemony.

The United States would, in short, become the kind of world empire we claimed that we were struggling, throughout the cold war, to prevent the Soviet Union from becoming.

Much of this neo con program has been implemented by the Bush administration. The test-ban and anti-ballistic missile treaties have been abrogated, along with the Geneva Conventions against torture and the Nuremberg Accords forbidding unprovoked war. The United States has refused to allow its citizens to be tried in the international criminal courts. The military budget has been expanded so that it now equals the combined military budgets of all other nations.

But in Iraq, the neo cons have been rudely awakened from their imperial dreams.

In August 2002, General Tommy Franks gathered a few of his senior officers, and together they predicted what Iraq might look like four years after an invasion and the fall of Saddam Hussein. These projections, assembled in a PowerPoint presentation, were recently obtained by the National Security Archives (a non-governmental research organization) through a Freedom of Information Act request. There we find that had the prophecies of Franks group proved true, today there would be only 5,000 American troops remaining in Iraq, while a representative government would be in place and the Iraqi army would be keeping the peace throughout the country.

But the spectacular failure of these rosy predictions should not surprise us. For at about the same time, Paul Wolfowitz and Dick Cheney were assuring us that the overthrow of Saddam would be a "cakewalk," and that we would be "greeted as liberators," with flowers and sweets. The cost of "Operation Iraqi Liberation" (O.I.L.) (oops, make that "Operation Iraqi Freedom"), we were told, would be paid for by oil revenues.

Well, it didn't quite turn out that way, did it? And why not? Many explanations have been offered. Among these: incredibly poor management by unqualified party hacks, failure to plan for the post-war occupation, failure to involve the Iraqis in the reconstruction. To be sure, all these factors and more have led to the appalling mess that is Iraq today. Underlying all these factors, perhaps, is a mind set of the neo conservatives who successfully urged Bush and Cheney to launch the war and who, before that, drew up and signed the neo con manifesto of 1997: "The Project for the New American Century" (PNAC).

By a "mind set" I mean assumptions that might be so far in the background of the neo cons thinking and planning that they are scarcely aware of them. These assumptions become apparent, not in what the neo cons say, but in how they act.

Three of these "mind set assumptions," I suggest, are especially significant:

The world beyond the US borders is essentially passive. Nations and peoples can be acted upon, but they will not react unexpectedly or resist effectively. In a sense, then, the "outside world" is like a sculptor's clay, a painter's canvas, or a writer's sheet of paper. Action without reaction. (The neo cons appear to have the same attitude toward the American public. But that must be the topic of another paper).

We American elites know what's best for the peoples of the world beyond our borders. And what is best for them is that they be just like us. Thus they should gratefully accept our bestowal of "truth, justice and The American Way." The neo cons see themselves as "missionaries to the heathen" - the "little people" desperately in need of enlightenment and salvation, whether they want it or not. (Perhaps this is what Bush had in mind when he carelessly called the "war on terror" a "crusade"). Thus we find "Viceroy" Paul Bremer imposing a pre-formed libertarian "paradise" upon the Iraqis, complete with unregulated free markets, the privatization of public properties, and the abolition of all vestiges of the pre-existing "socialism."

"Resistance is futile; you will be assimilated." If the people of any nation abroad resist our "benevolent global hegemony," this will be of no consequence, since our overwhelming military power will guarantee the endurance of our "hegemony," and will prevent the rise of a rival global power.

All three assumptions are profoundly false, as we are discovering each day as the PNAC dream unravels.

The World can respond, unexpectedly and effectively. When King George III dispatched the Howe brothers (General William and Admiral Richard) to crush the rebellion in the American colonies, they expected that standard European military tactics would defeat the rebels. And so they did at the first encounter in Long Island when Washington's colonials obligingly behaved as expected. But then the American patriots responded creatively, adapting and improving guerilla warfare, taking advantage of "home territory," and eventually seizing the initiative. Thus action is followed by a reaction that is innovative, intelligent, and unexpected. History teaches us that this is a fundamental condition of human conflict. A lesson sorrowfully learned by the British in India, by the apartheid government of South Africa, by the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, by the segregationists in the American South, and by the American military in Viet Nam.

No greater error can be committed in war or in peace, than to presume that one's opponent will respond exactly as one expects them to respond. Yet, as one reads the manifestos and publications of the neo cons, one is struck by how little speculation is found therein as to how the "others" might respond to the "benevolent global hegemony."

One often hears from the supporters of Missile Defense, the challenge: "If we can put a man on the moon, why can't we develop as system that will destroy incoming strategic missiles?" The answer is simple: the moon is passive, while a strategic enemy is reactive and resourceful. The moon did not actively attempt to foil the Apollo landing. But any and all improvements in missile defense will result in countermeasures in the missile offense, and the offense has insurmountable advantages.

The people in other nations are the best judges of what is "good for them." This is a lesson learned by most freshman students of cultural anthropology. Why it evades the notice of the well educated neo cons is a mystery.

Once again, history is a guide: Attempts from outside a culture to improve the lives within that society, however well intentioned those attempts might be, can have disastrous consequences if the culture and history of the "beneficiary" people are not carefully studied and taken into account. And it is doubtful that the interventions of the neo cons are either "well intentioned" or well informed.

Put simply: while the "golden rule" is an excellent guide for conduct within one's culture, a more appropriate variant for dealing with other cultures and peoples might be: "Do unto others as they would have you do unto them." This rule requires that the "outsider" be well aware of what "they would have you do unto them."

"But haven't American political ideals and culture been widely accepted throughout the world?" Indeed, they have - from national constitutions patterned after ours, to blue jeans and rock and roll. But these cultural importations succeed best when the people within the society decide on their own to accept them and integrate them into their culture. Attempts to force alien ideas and customs upon a society can have disastrous consequences, as missionaries and conquerors throughout history have learned.

Neo cons will tell us that they are trying to "spread democracy and freedom" abroad. ("Freedom is on the march." G. W. Bush).

This is a cruel hoax, as is evident when one looks past the word to the deeds. There one finds that the "freedom" of the neo cons, is a freedom to exploit, to seize a nation's resources, and to reap enormous profits with the connivance of the US government.

As for "democracy," the neo cons are pleased to see nations abroad hold free elections, so long as these elections select candidates that the neo cons approve of. But if the neo cons don't approve, then they will not hesitate to "correct" the voters' "errors." Consider, for example, the overthrow of Salvadore Allende in Chile, the attempt to oust Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua, and Hugo Chavez in Venezuela.

To this day, I cannot think of one authentic democracy that has been established through the implementation of neo con foreign policy. Can you?

Iraq provides us with the most recent and vivid test example of neo con "liberation." As noted above, soon after Saddam was ousted, Paul Bremer was installed as "Viceroy" whereupon he issued 97 "edicts" establishing a libertarian utopia of unregulated free markets and privatization. He didn't think to ask the Iraqis what they wanted in a post-Saddam Iraq, nor did he invite them to participate in the reconstruction of the country. Instead, Halliburton, Bechtel, et al, swooped in with licenses to steal, as eight billion dollars in cash were shipped on pallets into Iraq and then disappeared, like fresh rain on the desert sand. Now, as Seymour Hersh tells us, some of that purloined cash has apparently fallen into the hands of the Iraqi "insurgents."

The Iraqis responded to these abuses exactly as we would in such circumstances; they rose up in a struggle to drive out the occupiers and to take back their country.

Despite its military might, the United States can be humbled, if "the world" so chooses. The neo cons proclaim that the United States boasts a military that can not be defeated in conventional war. And they are right. But it does not follow that the US military cannot be defeated. It can be defeated through unconventional warfare, as we discovered in Vietnam, and are apparently discovering anew in Iraq.

But more significantly, the American "hegemon" can be defeated without a shot being fired. As I have argued elsewhere (The Vulnerable Giant), beneath the bombast and bluster of the American military lies a pitifully week economic structure. More than half of our eight trillion dollar national debt is in foreign hands (mostly China and Japan). We have dismantled much of our industrial base and shipped it overseas, and most of our strategic resources (primarily oil) are imported. Should our foreign rivals "call" our debts and switch from the dollar to the euro, the value of the dollar will sink like a stone and we will no longer be able to purchase strategic materials. An embargo on imported oil would be the coup de grace.

True, this would create chaos and hardship in the world economy, but grave threats can call for extreme remedies.

Put bluntly, we can be assured that "the world" will not submit to a "Pax Americana" - an American "benevolent global hegemony." Not when the nations abroad take note of how American political ideals have been compromised and even abolished at home by the neo con Bush administration, and how this administration has treated American citizens and captured foreigners.

The nations abroad will not stand for this. And they need not stand for this. If the neo con arrogance, threats and bullying become intolerable, the community of nations can, in concert, demolish the American economy and reduce the United States to a ruined irrelevancy.

Hopefully, before that terrible tipping point is reached, the American public will at last wake up, regain its lost liberties, restore the Constitution, and renounce the imperial ambitions of the neo cons.

It is just possible that the sleeping giant is beginning to stir, and that a counter-revolution is afoot.

Let us hope that it is not too little and too late.

Copyright 2007 by Ernest Partridge


http://www.crisispapers.org/essays7p/neocons.htm
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 12 Apr, 2007 10:05 pm
xingu, An excellent talking piece article, but not worth the paper it's written on. The American public and our government - including congress and the sc, have a "who gives a shite" attitude, and won't do the jobs they have been elected or selected for. I haven't seen the "balance of power" equalibrium of our government for the past six years while our country falls deeper into the hell-hole of deficit spending and the unjustified, illegal war in Iraq.

It's more important for the American People to learn about Imus.
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xingu
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 04:28 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
xingu, An excellent talking piece article, but not worth the paper it's written on. The American public and our government - including congress and the sc, have a "who gives a shite" attitude, and won't do the jobs they have been elected or selected for. I haven't seen the "balance of power" equalibrium of our government for the past six years while our country falls deeper into the hell-hole of deficit spending and the unjustified, illegal war in Iraq.

It's more important for the American People to learn about Imus.


Lets hope that changes in 2008. Bush is an example of what happens when this country elects a dry drunk that can't see anything outside of his ideology.
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xingu
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 07:18 am
Quote:

http://www.statesman.com:80/blogs/content/shared-blogs/washington/washington/entries/2007/04/12/zbig_white_hous.html
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hamburger
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 10:55 am
from xingu's quote :

Quote:
...handing off the war to the next president in 2009...


i think handing over a "live grenade" in 2008 has been the gameplan for some time imo .
the question in my mind is : who is brave enough to accept that present ?
there is also the possibility that the trigger(on iran ?) will be be pulled just before the handover - what action would the successor likely take in that case ?
since some top-generals have already declined the job of "super war czar" (thanks , but no , thanks) , i'm wondering who'll get stuck doing the cleaning up ?
hbg
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 11:32 am
Costs all around to prolonging the war to next president
COMMENTARY
Costs all around to prolonging the war
By JOSEPH L. GALLOWAY
McClatchy Newspapers
4/12/07

It will be costly and painful to prolong the war in Iraq for another 21 months so that those who started it can hand off the harder decision of how to end it to the next occupant of the White House.

President Bush isn't extending and expanding the war in a search for victory. His dream of victory in Iraq cannot be achieved. Not by sending 30,000 more American troops. Not by making parts of Baghdad temporarily safer by billeting American troops in violent neighborhoods and pushing the slaughter into the northern and southern suburbs - or into the Green Zone where U.S. and Iraqi officials live and work.

Not by letting American soldiers bear the brunt of combat, targeted not only by our enemies, the Sunni Muslim insurgents but also by our supposed allies, the Shiite majority and the murderous militia of radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr. In March, more American troops died in Iraq than Iraqi soldiers.

This is a search for a fig leaf to cover the emperor's nakedness - a way for Bush to go home to Texas with a ringing but hollow declaration that "Iraq wasn't lost on my watch."

That this can be achieved only by fomenting a nasty, divisive and unnecessary showdown between the White House and Congress is just one more cost.

Another very high cost will be borne by the U.S. Army, whose soldiers got the word from Defense Secretary Robert Gates this week that their combat tours are being extended from 12 months to 15 months, effective immediately.

The cost to the Army National Guard will be high, too. The Guard got the word this month that 13,000 of its part-time soldiers will be recalled to active duty for their second combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan - although they'd been promised only one active duty tour every five years.

The cost will be highest of all, however, for the families of those soldiers who've already waved farewell to their loved ones two or three times.

What disheartening news for people like a young Army captain who recently told me that he'd finally had the pleasure of spending his first Christmas at home with a daughter who's almost four.

While the nation's airwaves this past week were filled with the urgent news of who fathered Anna Nicole Smith's baby and the spectacle of Don Imus waving goodbye to his career in broadcasting over racist and sexist remarks on the air, few seemed to notice that 10 more American troops were killed in Iraq over the weekend.

Ten young soldiers whose lives of service to the nation were terminated in an instant. Ten military sedans rolling up to the doors of families that were devastated by the news of a death in combat. Fathers, mothers, siblings, spouses, young children, fiancees, friends whose hearts were shattered in an instant.

The American military death toll in Iraq rose to almost 3,300 this week. The number of wounded and injured now tops 50,000.

Continuing this war for another two years will bring the day-to-day cost to the American taxpayer to nearly a trillion dollars. Hidden long-term costs such as medical care and disability pensions for the thousands of wounded, and mental health care for those tormented by PTSD, could add another trillion dollars or more to the tab.

Why? Why should this misbegotten war continue for another two or three years? The president's men say that if we leave Iraq as it is now, it will erupt into all-out civil war, and the flames would spread to other tinderbox nations in the Middle East. Perhaps, but perhaps not.

There were those who were certain that if we left Vietnam and it fell to the Communists, the other nations of Southeast Asia would topple like dominos.

We left. The Communists took power in the three countries of what had been French Indochina: South Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. The dominos of Southeast Asia are all still standing.

It was our preemptive invasion of Iraq that loosed the dogs of war there. It was our negligence that set off sectarian slaughter. It is our continued military presence in Iraq _ where a majority wants us to leave now _ that fans the flames of war.

What if we left, and our departure forced the Shiites, Sunnis, Kurds and others to find some way to live in peace with each other, or at least alongside one another? What if our leaving isn't the worst possible outcome but the best?

Maybe we'll finally find out after George W. Bush and Dick Cheney go home to Texas and Wyoming, and those whom we choose to succeed them decide to try the one thing that Bush and Cheney have never considered.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 01:27 pm
I believe Bush has been successful in "bankrupting" our country in more ways than a few. Those who put him in office for the second term must be very proud Americans. They're not only sacrificing their parents and children, but the final cost for this war is still unknown.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 03:35 pm
Is this supposed to be good news?

Civilian deaths down in Baghdad
By LAUREN FRAYER and ROBERT H. REID, Associated Press Writers
2 hours, 17 minutes ago



BAGHDAD - Iraqi civilian deaths have fallen in Baghdad in the two months since the Feb. 14 start of the U.S.-led offensive, according to an Associated Press tally.

Outside the capital, however, civilian deaths are up as Sunni and Shiite extremists shift their operations to avoid the crackdown.

And the sweeps have taken a heavy toll on U.S. forces: Deaths among American soldiers climbed 21 percent in Baghdad compared with the previous two months.

Since the crackdown began Feb. 14, U.S. military officials have spoken of encouraging signs that security is improving in the capital but have cautioned against drawing any firm conclusions until at least the summer.


It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the violence in Baghdad has slowed down, because they're just waiting until our troops move to other regions. DUH!
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 13 Apr, 2007 07:45 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
I believe Bush has been successful in "bankrupting" our country in more ways than a few. Those who put him in office for the second term must be very proud Americans. They're not only sacrificing their parents and children, but the final cost for this war is still unknown.

I believe cicerone imposter is making a fool of himself.

Our country isn't bankrupt.

Those who put Bush into office for the second term are not sacrificing their parents.

Those who put Bush into office for the second term are not sacrificing their children.

BUT, those who say otherwise are harming our country, sacrificing our parents, sacrificing our children, and sacrificing themselves.

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revel
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2007 06:40 am
Suicide bombers kill dozens in Iraq

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KERBALA, Iraq (Reuters) - A suicide car bomber killed at least 40 people and wounded 128 at a crowded bus station near a major Shi'ite shrine in the Iraqi holy city of Kerbala on Saturday, police and hospital sources said.

In Baghdad, police said a suicide car bomber detonated his device near a checkpoint at the southern Jadriyah bridge, killing 10 people, wounding 15 and burning several cars in the second major attack on a bridge in the capital in the past three days.

In the volatile southern city of Basra, British forces on Friday killed eight gunmen laying landmines in an area where four British soldiers and their translator were killed by a roadside bomb that destroyed their armored vehicle earlier this month, the British military said on Saturday.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sat 14 Apr, 2007 11:19 am
xingu -- We'll pay for those Iraqi bridges by
1.) sending more jobs abroad
2.) making certain that no one investigates hedge funds
3.) electing another war mongering Republican to the WH
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2007 11:04 am
Quote:
Currently, President Bush and Congress disagree about what to do about U.S. troop levels in Iraq. Who do you think should have the final say about troop levels in Iraq, the President or Congress?

President: 44%
Congress: 49%

The poll also finds that an astonishing 67 percent of respondents think Congress should either allow funding only with a withdrawal timeline (58%) or cut off funding completely (9%).

Hang tough, Dems.


http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/CBSNews_polls/april_iraq.pdf

Bush has lost the confidence of the nation, and the war will end sooner rather than later.

Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2007 12:07 pm
Bush and all the generals in command need to go back to school to learn about the realities of "logistics." 30,000 divided into 25 million has no chance to succeed in any war effort. The enemy is not going to stick around where those 30,000 soldiers are sent; it's called hide and seek.

Patreaus said this war must be won through diplomacy and the military, but all the efforts are military. As for diplomacy, we're still waiting.

Elementary, Dr Watson.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2007 04:25 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Bush and all the generals in command need to go back to school to learn about the realities of "logistics." 30,000 divided into 25 million has no chance to succeed in any war effort.

The 30,000 are not going to fight 25 million. Neither were the original 200 thousand. They are all fighting the enemy where the enemy has been found and are going to fight the enemy wherever the enemy is found. The enemy is less than 230 thousand--more accurately: less than 23 thousand.
...
Elementary, Dr Watson.

"Elementary, my dear Watson" ... pre-elementary, my dear imposter.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2007 04:31 pm
Oh, they're fighting the enemy where they can be found? Howza! That's the reason they've been losing the war.

FYI, the military option by itself will not succeed.
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xingu
 
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Reply Sun 15 Apr, 2007 05:09 pm
Want to know why we're having such a hard time in Iraq?

Quote:
On the afternoon of July 8, 2006, four private security guards rolled out of Baghdad's Green Zone in an armored SUV. The team leader, Jacob C. Washbourne, rode in the front passenger seat. He seemed in a good mood. His vacation started the next day.

"I want to kill somebody today," Washbourne said, according to the three other men in the vehicle, who later recalled it as an offhand remark. Before the day was over, however, the guards had been involved in three shooting incidents. In one, Washbourne allegedly fired into the windshield of a taxi for amusement, according to interviews and statements from the three other guards.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/14/AR2007041401490.html

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A preliminary U.S. military investigation indicates that more than 40 Afghans killed or wounded by Marines after a suicide bombing in a village near Jalalabad last month were civilians, the U.S. commander who ordered the probe said yesterday.

Maj. Gen. Frank H. Kearney III, head of Special Operations Command Central, also said there is no evidence that the Marine Special Operations platoon came under small-arms fire after the bombing, although the Marines reported taking enemy fire and seeing people with weapons. The troops continued shooting at perceived threats as they traveled miles from the site of the March 4 attack, he said. They hit several vehicles, killing at least 10 people and wounding 33, among them children and elderly villagers.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/14/AR2007041400603.html

Quote:
In February 2006, nervous American soldiers in Tikrit killed an Iraqi fisherman on the Tigris River after he leaned over to switch off his engine. A year earlier, a civilian filling his car and an Iraqi Army officer directing traffic were shot by American soldiers in a passing convoy in Balad, for no apparent reason.

The incidents are among many thousands of claims submitted to the Army by Iraqi and Afghan civilians seeking payment for noncombat killings, injuries or property damage American forces inflicted on them or their relatives.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/world/middleeast/12abuse.html?ex=1334030400&en=0aedbea4b8380db2&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/04/12/world/0412-for-ABUSEch.jpg

Quote:
Through the war's first three years, any Iraqi venturing too close to an American convoy or checkpoint was likely to come under fire. Thousands of these "escalation of force" episodes occurred. Now, Lt. Gen. Peter Chiarelli, the commander of U.S. ground forces in Iraq, has begun to recognize the hidden cost of such an approach. "People who were on the fence or supported us" in the past "have in fact decided to strike out against us," he recently acknowledged.

In the early days of the insurgency, some U.S. commanders appeared oblivious to the possibility that excessive force might produce a backlash. They counted on the iron fist to create an atmosphere conducive to good behavior. The idea was not to distinguish between "good" and "bad" Iraqis, but to induce compliance through intimidation.

"You have to understand the Arab mind," one company commander told the New York Times, displaying all the self-assurance of Douglas MacArthur discoursing on Orientals in 1945. "The only thing they understand is force -- force, pride and saving face." Far from representing the views of a few underlings, such notions penetrated into the upper echelons of the American command. In their book "Cobra II," Michael R. Gordon and Gen. Bernard E. Trainor offer this ugly comment from a senior officer: "The only thing these sand niggers understand is force and I'm about to introduce them to it."

Such crass language, redolent with racist, ethnocentric connotations, speaks volumes. These characterizations, like the use of "gooks" during the Vietnam War, dehumanize the Iraqis and in doing so tacitly permit the otherwise impermissible. Thus, Abu Ghraib and Haditha -- and too many regretted deaths, such as that of Nahiba Husayif Jassim.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/07/AR2006070701155_pf.html
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