ican wrote :
Quote:cicerone imposter wrote:
ican seems to think all mass murders resides in Iraq; he just doesn't understand world history - past or present.
FALSE!
CLUE #1: Five percent of the world population, the US, is not capable to have a war with all the criminal elements of this world.
TRUE! WE REQUIRE LIKEMINDED ALLIES
CLUE #2: Our war in Iraq has lasted longer than WWII for a misguided goal that Bush and his minions never understood. The reason we continue to have criminals in the US should teach the simplist of minds that crime exists not only in the US, but most parts of this planet. It's a human thing, and a small country like the US cannot be the world's police.
TRUE! "IT'S A HUMAN THING ... THE US CANNOT [ALONE] BE THE WORLD'S POLICE."
when many influential nations of asia - such as : japan , india , indonesia , singapore ... ...) - decided NOT to become involved in the wars in afghanistan and iraq , might it be time for the U.S. and other western nations to question the wisdom of getting involved in wars in those countries ?
perhaps these asian countries have a better understanding of the mindset of the people in afghanistan and iraq ?
as we discussed some years ago , the western nations cannot expect the nations of asia and the midle-east to live by the rules of the western nations .
that may have worked 200 , 100 and even 50 years ago . many of the people of the middle-east and asia have become educated - often at western universities - and have taken what they learned back home with them .
BUT they usually do not incorporate what they learned in the west directly into their lives . they have usually modified what they have learned into their traditional way of life .
listening to influential and learned saudis shows that they are good business people , they use modern technical equipment , they have modern hospitals , in short everything that they feel comfortable with .
but they still are saudis : they are connected to their families and tribes first , like they always were .
why not try to use some of their knowledge and wisdom rather than pouring more and more money (and losing people's lifes everyday) into something that likely can not be solved on the battlefield ?
the people of the middle-east and asia are often people that try to arrive at compromises rather than seeing on side win and the other lose .
(i understand that japanese baseball teams have developed a unique system of playing the game . they do not humiliate the weaker/opposing team . the better team wants to be a graceful winner and give the other team a chance to look good - even when losing . it's not about the one-time win but about a game that will be repeated many times - being courteous to the loser is important . i understand it is important not to force the loser "to lose face" .)
perhaps it's worth a try - the present way of dealing with iraq and afhanistan don't seem to be very successful .
hbg
