Can always count on C.I. and his wonderful optimism.
ican711nm wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:in blueican711nm wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:Let's look at this from the past experience of Bush choices for - anything; they've all been incompetents. Show us one choice Bush made that did a good job?
George Bush chose Laura to be his wife and Laura has done a good job being his wife.
Poor Laura has to accept the incompetence of her husband. ?Too late.
[ican wrote in italics:]
Regardless, George Bush did make a good choice in choosing Laura.
And what in blue-blazes does Laura have to do with the governance of our country, pray tell?
[ican wrote in purple]
You started this discussion with Show us one choice Bush made that did a good job?I was merely responding to your request.
Bush chose himself to run against Al Gore and did a good job winning the election over Al Gore.
There are many questions about how Bush won Florida including the intrusion by the supreme court.]
The US Supreme Court put an end to the selective recounting authorized by the Florida Supreme Court on Gore's behalf.
Read up on the laws of voting in the states. You might learn something valuable.
You obviously have learned nothing valuable or pertinent from reading up on the laws of voting in Florida, else you would have posted it.
Bush chose himself to run against John Kerry and did a good job winning the election over John Kerry.
That says more about the ignorance of the American voters, but most are now catching on that Bush is a disaster for our country. His performance rating is down to 27 percent and dropping.
Regardless, George Bush made a good choice in choosing himself over John Kerry.
Over 63 percent of Americans now realize they made a big mistake. Many now wish Bush would just disappear.
No poll that I'm aware of reveals that the American public prefers either Gore or Kerry over Bush.
Bush chose General Tommy Franks to command the invasion of Afghanistan, and General Franks did a good job commanding the invasion of Afghanistan.
Yeah, Tommy Franks did such a good job, they're still looking for Osama.
Capturing Osama was not his job. Removing the Taliban government and al-Qaeda was his job.
Funny you should claim that! Osama is the leader of the group responsible for 9-11.
General Franks was reassigned from his mission before he could complete it in Afghanistan in order to prepare our forces for a possible invasion of Iraq.
Bush chose General Tommy Franks to command the invasion of Iraq, and General Franks did a good job commanding the invasion of Iraq.
Let's see; the Iraq war is now longer than WWII. That's a good job?
Franks did a good job removing Saddam's government and al-Qaeda from northeastern Iraq in less than 90 days. It took us from early 1942 to the Spring of 1945 (a little over 3 years) to remove Hitler's government with Hitler's help--he helped by committing suicide.
Saddam was no longer in power; he was cowering in a pit looking the coward and frightened rat. So much for a dignified leader.
We invaded Iraq March 20, 2003. Saddam's regime was removed in April 2003. Saddam himself was found about 8 months later cowering in a covered hole.
Bush chose General David Petraeus to command the surge in Iraq, and General Petraeus is doing a good job commanding the surge in Iraq.
You don't seem to understand much of anything; general Petraeus said to win in Iraq, there also needs to be a politcal success. The Iraqi government is a shambles, and there's no hope of any improvement under Maliki.
Petraeus is doing a good job of doing what he was asked to do-- reduce the Iraq violent death rate. Military success in Iraq is necessary for there to be political success in Iraq.
It is evident you have completely missed what Petraeus told congress before he accepted the responsibility to be commander in Iraq. A 50 percent success in Iraq is no success; that's what he said before taking on the helm.
I didn't miss what Petraeus told Congress. What he said was true about there being a military problem and a political problem that had to be solved in Iraq. He also observed that solving the military problem would not be sufficient to end the Iraq violence, and that the political problem had to also be solved. However, he was not asked nor did he volunteer to solve the political problem.
Bush chose Congress to reduce income tax rates, and Congress did a good job reducing income tax rates.
Bush is the only president of our country who has reduced income taxes during a time of war, and the federal deficit is increasing at such a dangerous rate that our future economy is in danger of collapsing. Our currency is losing value against all major currencies, and people like you think that's a benefit. Bush has mortgaged our children's future with his tax cuts.You fail to understand anything about fiscal responsibility.
The rate of increase of the federal deficit is rapidly decreasing. That is, the federal BUDGET deficit is decreasing from what Bush inheriited from Clinton the first year he was in office.
You're probably not paying attention, but our economy is struggling to survive a) the loss of value of the US greenback, b) our trade deficit increases very year, c) the sub-prime loans are affecting millions of American families to lose their homes, d) housing value is dropping at an alarming rate - the biggest equity for most American families, e) the DOW just lost over 300 points this month in response to the prospects of a recession, and f) your lies about Bush inheriting the budget deficit from Clinton is another conservative wet dream. You need to study which party in fact increases the federal deficit throughout history. You are not only ignorant, but unable to see what's in front of you. The middle-class in our country 1) have lost buying power during Bush's tenure during the past six years, 2) more Americans now have negative savings (more debt in the common jargon), and 3) many Americans are losing their homes. All thanks to Bush's mismanagement of our economy. It's obvious you are ignorant of macro and micro economics.
The number of jobs in the USA increased over a 100 thousand last month. Not a bad way to suffer an alleged failing economy. The Dow has been jumping up and down for years with a positive trend up. It will continue to jump up and down with a positive trend up just like it always has.
The federal surplus began decreasing in Clinton's last year due to his tax increases in the previous years. The federal surplus continued to decrease to an increasing federal deficit in Bush's first year as a consequence of Clinton's previous tax increases. When Bush's tax decrease finally went into effect in his third year, the budget deficit began to decrease.
People began to lose their homes when the interest rates of their so-called subprime variable rate mortgages grew too expensive for them to pay their mortgages. That subprime variable rate crap was not first instigated after Bush was elected. It was largely instigated during Clinton's presidency.
I and the rest of the middle class are doing fine despite the opinion-news claiming otherwise.
cicerone imposter wrote:ican711nm wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:in blueican711nm wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:Let's look at this from the past experience of Bush choices for - anything; they've all been incompetents. Show us one choice Bush made that did a good job?
George Bush chose Laura to be his wife and Laura has done a good job being his wife.
Poor Laura has to accept the incompetence of her husband. ?Too late.
[ican wrote in italics:]
Regardless, George Bush did make a good choice in choosing Laura.
And what in blue-blazes does Laura have to do with the governance of our country, pray tell?
[ican wrote in purple]
You started this discussion with Show us one choice Bush made that did a good job?I was merely responding to your request.
You know darn well I was talking about his job performance.
Bush chose himself to run against Al Gore and did a good job winning the election over Al Gore.
There are many questions about how Bush won Florida including the intrusion by the supreme court.]
The US Supreme Court put an end to the selective recounting authorized by the Florida Supreme Court on Gore's behalf.
Read up on the laws of voting in the states. You might learn something valuable.
You obviously have learned nothing valuable or pertinent from reading up on the laws of voting in Florida, else you would have posted it.
This story appeared on Network World at
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2004/1119studyfinds.html
Study finds e-voting irregularities in Florida
By Robert McMillan, IDG News Service, 11/19/04
Sponsored by:
Voting irregularities in three Florida counties that used electronic voting machines may have awarded as many as 130,000 votes to President George Bush in this month's election, according to researchers at the University of California, Berkeley.
Bush chose himself to run against John Kerry and did a good job winning the election over John Kerry.
That says more about the ignorance of the American voters, but most are now catching on that Bush is a disaster for our country. His performance rating is down to 27 percent and dropping.
Regardless, George Bush made a good choice in choosing himself over John Kerry.
Over 63 percent of Americans now realize they made a big mistake. Many now wish Bush would just disappear.
No poll that I'm aware of reveals that the American public prefers either Gore or Kerry over Bush.
Read above article; Gore would have won if not for the voting machine irregularity.
Bush chose General Tommy Franks to command the invasion of Afghanistan, and General Franks did a good job commanding the invasion of Afghanistan.
Yeah, Tommy Franks did such a good job, they're still looking for Osama.
Capturing Osama was not his job. Removing the Taliban government and al-Qaeda was his job.
Funny you should claim that! Osama is the leader of the group responsible for 9-11.
General Franks was reassigned from his mission before he could complete it in Afghanistan in order to prepare our forces for a possible invasion of Iraq.
So is that Bush's fault or Franks' fault?
Bush chose General Tommy Franks to command the invasion of Iraq, and General Franks did a good job commanding the invasion of Iraq.
Let's see; the Iraq war is now longer than WWII. That's a good job?
Franks did a good job removing Saddam's government and al-Qaeda from northeastern Iraq in less than 90 days. It took us from early 1942 to the Spring of 1945 (a little over 3 years) to remove Hitler's government with Hitler's help--he helped by committing suicide.
Saddam was no longer in power; he was cowering in a pit looking the coward and frightened rat. So much for a dignified leader.
We invaded Iraq March 20, 2003. Saddam's regime was removed in April 2003. Saddam himself was found about 8 months later cowering in a covered hole.
Yes, we remember that well; the Bush regime told us the Iraqis would welcome us as liberators, but five years later, we're still at war.
Bush chose General David Petraeus to command the surge in Iraq, and General Petraeus is doing a good job commanding the surge in Iraq.
You don't seem to understand much of anything; general Petraeus said to win in Iraq, there also needs to be a politcal success. The Iraqi government is a shambles, and there's no hope of any improvement under Maliki.
Petraeus is doing a good job of doing what he was asked to do-- reduce the Iraq violent death rate. Military success in Iraq is necessary for there to be political success in Iraq.
It is evident you have completely missed what Petraeus told congress before he accepted the responsibility to be commander in Iraq. A 50 percent success in Iraq is no success; that's what he said before taking on the helm.
I didn't miss what Petraeus told Congress. What he said was true about there being a military problem and a political problem that had to be solved in Iraq. He also observed that solving the military problem would not be sufficient to end the Iraq violence, and that the political problem had to also be solved. However, he was not asked nor did he volunteer to solve the political problem.
Bush chose Congress to reduce income tax rates, and Congress did a good job reducing income tax rates.
Bush is the only president of our country who has reduced income taxes during a time of war, and the federal deficit is increasing at such a dangerous rate that our future economy is in danger of collapsing. Our currency is losing value against all major currencies, and people like you think that's a benefit. Bush has mortgaged our children's future with his tax cuts.You fail to understand anything about fiscal responsibility.
The rate of increase of the federal deficit is rapidly decreasing. That is, the federal BUDGET deficit is decreasing from what Bush inheriited from Clinton the first year he was in office.
You're probably not paying attention, but our economy is struggling to survive a) the loss of value of the US greenback, b) our trade deficit increases very year, c) the sub-prime loans are affecting millions of American families to lose their homes, d) housing value is dropping at an alarming rate - the biggest equity for most American families, e) the DOW just lost over 300 points this month in response to the prospects of a recession, and f) your lies about Bush inheriting the budget deficit from Clinton is another conservative wet dream. You need to study which party in fact increases the federal deficit throughout history. You are not only ignorant, but unable to see what's in front of you. The middle-class in our country 1) have lost buying power during Bush's tenure during the past six years, 2) more Americans now have negative savings (more debt in the common jargon), and 3) many Americans are losing their homes. All thanks to Bush's mismanagement of our economy. It's obvious you are ignorant of macro and micro economics.
The number of jobs in the USA increased over a 100 thousand last month. Not a bad way to suffer an alleged failing economy. The Dow has been jumping up and down for years with a positive trend up. It will continue to jump up and down with a positive trend up just like it always has.
The federal surplus began decreasing in Clinton's last year due to his tax increases in the previous years. The federal surplus continued to decrease to an increasing federal deficit in Bush's first year as a consequence of Clinton's previous tax increases. When Bush's tax decrease finally went into effect in his third year, the budget deficit began to decrease.
And that's the reason why the federal debt continues to increase under Bush.
People began to lose their homes when the interest rates of their so-called subprime variable rate mortgages grew too expensive for them to pay their mortgages. That subprime variable rate crap was not first instigated after Bush was elected. It was largely instigated during Clinton's presidency.
Prove this statement?
I and the rest of the middle class are doing fine despite the opinion-news claiming otherwise.
And where do you get your facts? FOX News? ROFL
Former envoy: U.S. driving Turkey, Iran together
WASHINGTON ?- The retired general who served as President Bush's special envoy to deal with the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) said the United States has failed to keep its promises to Turkey to confront the Kurdish terrorist group, and Turkey may feel that it has no choice but to attack the PKK's sanctuary in northern Iraq.
Retired Air Force Gen. Joseph Ralston, in a brief interview, declined to say why he stepped down several weeks ago. But published reports have said that he was frustrated by the Bush administration's failure to act against the PKK.
In his first extended comments since his departure, Ralston told McClatchy Newspapers that the United States is unwittingly "driving, strategically, the Turks and the Iranians together" because both nations share concerns about violent Kurdish separatist groups.
"The U.S. government should make good on the commitments they have made to the Turks," Ralston said.
Turkey is a NATO ally of the United States, while the United States and Iran are increasingly in confrontation across a range of issues.
The White House and the U.S. military have appeared leery about opening a new front in the war in Iraq ?- particularly in generally stable northern Iraq ?- by launching assaults against the PKK. Neither the U.S.-backed Iraqi government nor the semiautonomous Kurdish Regional Government has shown any inclination to go after the group.
The officer who commands U.S. forces in northern Iraq, Maj. Gen. Benjamin Nixon, last week said he planned to do "absolutely nothing" to curb PKK activities.
Ralston, a vice chairman of the Washington-based Cohen Group, a consulting firm, said the statement was "directly opposite" promises Bush has made to Turkey.
Asked whether the Turkish military would invade northern Iraq, which PKK fighters use to launch attacks into Turkey, Ralston said: "They're going to have to, in the absence of the U.S. doing anything."
ican711nm wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:ican711nm wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:in blueican711nm wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:Let's look at this from the past experience of Bush choices for - anything; they've all been incompetents. Show us one choice Bush made that did a good job?
George Bush chose Laura to be his wife and Laura has done a good job being his wife.
Poor Laura has to accept the incompetence of her husband. ?Too late.
[ican wrote in italics:]
Regardless, George Bush did make a good choice in choosing Laura.
And what in blue-blazes does Laura have to do with the governance of our country, pray tell?
[ican wrote in purple]
You started this discussion with Show us one choice Bush made that did a good job?I was merely responding to your request.
You know darn well I was talking about his job performance.
Bush choices for - anything; they've all been incompetents. Show us one choice Bush made that did a good job?
Bush chose himself to run against Al Gore and did a good job winning the election over Al Gore.
There are many questions about how Bush won Florida including the intrusion by the supreme court.]
The US Supreme Court put an end to the selective recounting authorized by the Florida Supreme Court on Gore's behalf.
Read up on the laws of voting in the states. You might learn something valuable.
You obviously have learned nothing valuable or pertinent from reading up on the laws of voting in Florida, else you would have posted it.
This story appeared on Network World at
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2004/1119studyfinds.html
Study finds e-voting irregularities in Florida
By Robert McMillan, IDG News Service, 11/19/04
Sponsored by:
Voting irregularities in three Florida counties that used electronic voting machines may have awarded as many as 130,000 votes to President George Bush in this month's election, according to researchers at the University of California, Berkeley.
Bush chose himself to run against John Kerry and did a good job winning the election over John Kerry.
That says more about the ignorance of the American voters, but most are now catching on that Bush is a disaster for our country. His performance rating is down to 27 percent and dropping.
Regardless, George Bush made a good choice in choosing himself over John Kerry.
Over 63 percent of Americans now realize they made a big mistake. Many now wish Bush would just disappear.
No poll that I'm aware of reveals that the American public prefers either Gore or Kerry over Bush.
Read above article; Gore would have won if not for the voting machine irregularity.
That claim has been refuted by multiple groups who questioned the legality of the Florida vote until they did their own research and found out the vote was legal. What you fail to take into account are all the illegal Democrat votes by dead Democrat voters, non-registered Democrat voters, and multi-voting Democrat voters.
Bush chose General Tommy Franks to command the invasion of Afghanistan, and General Franks did a good job commanding the invasion of Afghanistan.
Yeah, Tommy Franks did such a good job, they're still looking for Osama.
Capturing Osama was not his job. Removing the Taliban government and al-Qaeda was his job.
Funny you should claim that! Osama is the leader of the group responsible for 9-11.
General Franks was reassigned from his mission before he could complete it in Afghanistan in order to prepare our forces for a possible invasion of Iraq.
So is that Bush's fault or Franks' fault?
Bush chose General Tommy Franks to command the invasion of Iraq, and General Franks did a good job commanding the invasion of Iraq.
Let's see; the Iraq war is now longer than WWII. That's a good job?
Franks did a good job removing Saddam's government and al-Qaeda from northeastern Iraq in less than 90 days. It took us from early 1942 to the Spring of 1945 (a little over 3 years) to remove Hitler's government with Hitler's help--he helped by committing suicide.
Saddam was no longer in power; he was cowering in a pit looking the coward and frightened rat. So much for a dignified leader.
We invaded Iraq March 20, 2003. Saddam's regime was removed in April 2003. Saddam himself was found about 8 months later cowering in a covered hole.
Yes, we remember that well; the Bush regime told us the Iraqis would welcome us as liberators, but five years later, we're still at war.
Bush chose General David Petraeus to command the surge in Iraq, and General Petraeus is doing a good job commanding the surge in Iraq.
You don't seem to understand much of anything; general Petraeus said to win in Iraq, there also needs to be a politcal success. The Iraqi government is a shambles, and there's no hope of any improvement under Maliki.
Petraeus is doing a good job of doing what he was asked to do-- reduce the Iraq violent death rate. Military success in Iraq is necessary for there to be political success in Iraq.
It is evident you have completely missed what Petraeus told congress before he accepted the responsibility to be commander in Iraq. A 50 percent success in Iraq is no success; that's what he said before taking on the helm.
I didn't miss what Petraeus told Congress. What he said was true about there being a military problem and a political problem that had to be solved in Iraq. He also observed that solving the military problem would not be sufficient to end the Iraq violence, and that the political problem had to also be solved. However, he was not asked nor did he volunteer to solve the political problem.
Bush chose Congress to reduce income tax rates, and Congress did a good job reducing income tax rates.
Bush is the only president of our country who has reduced income taxes during a time of war, and the federal deficit is increasing at such a dangerous rate that our future economy is in danger of collapsing. Our currency is losing value against all major currencies, and people like you think that's a benefit. Bush has mortgaged our children's future with his tax cuts.You fail to understand anything about fiscal responsibility.
The rate of increase of the federal deficit is rapidly decreasing. That is, the federal BUDGET deficit is decreasing from what Bush inheriited from Clinton the first year he was in office.
You're probably not paying attention, but our economy is struggling to survive a) the loss of value of the US greenback, b) our trade deficit increases very year, c) the sub-prime loans are affecting millions of American families to lose their homes, d) housing value is dropping at an alarming rate - the biggest equity for most American families, e) the DOW just lost over 300 points this month in response to the prospects of a recession, and f) your lies about Bush inheriting the budget deficit from Clinton is another conservative wet dream. You need to study which party in fact increases the federal deficit throughout history. You are not only ignorant, but unable to see what's in front of you. The middle-class in our country 1) have lost buying power during Bush's tenure during the past six years, 2) more Americans now have negative savings (more debt in the common jargon), and 3) many Americans are losing their homes. All thanks to Bush's mismanagement of our economy. It's obvious you are ignorant of macro and micro economics.
The number of jobs in the USA increased over a 100 thousand last month. Not a bad way to suffer an alleged failing economy. The Dow has been jumping up and down for years with a positive trend up. It will continue to jump up and down with a positive trend up just like it always has.
The federal surplus began decreasing in Clinton's last year due to his tax increases in the previous years. The federal surplus continued to decrease to an increasing federal deficit in Bush's first year as a consequence of Clinton's previous tax increases. When Bush's tax decrease finally went into effect in his third year, the budget deficit began to decrease.
And that's the reason why the federal debt continues to increase under Bush.
People began to lose their homes when the interest rates of their so-called subprime variable rate mortgages grew too expensive for them to pay their mortgages. That subprime variable rate crap was not first instigated after Bush was elected. It was largely instigated during Clinton's presidency.
Prove this statement?
I and the rest of the middle class are doing fine despite the opinion-news claiming otherwise.
And where do you get your facts? FOX News? ROFL
I get my facts from the Wall Street Journal. Where do you get your alleged facts? The Soros gang?
U.S. Govt Debt
US$ billions
1980 930.2
1990 3,233.3
2000 5,674.2
2005 7,932.7
2006 8,506.9
If you have difficulty with math, the US government debt increased by 50 percent during Bush's tenure. That debt must be paid by our children and grandchildren, and that will handicap their economic growth and ability to provide for the necessary social services of the American People.
Ican heap big fool.
Iraq: Nearly 2.3 Million Displaced
By LAUREN FRAYER - 7 hours ago
BAGHDAD (AP) ?- Nearly 2.3 million Iraqis ?- the vast majority of them women and children ?- have fled their homes but remain inside the country's borders and are in urgent need of basic care, according to a report issued Monday by the Iraqi Red Crescent.
The number of internally displaced people, or IDPs, in Iraq grew by 16 percent in September ?- to 2,299,425, the Red Crescent said. That figure has skyrocketed since the beginning of 2007, when less than half a million people were listed as displaced.
More than 83 percent of those displaced are women and children under the age of 12, the report said.
Four and a half years after the U.S.-led invasion, the Iraqi government struggles to provide basic services ?- water, electricity and access to schools and medical care ?- to citizens across the country. Much of Iraq, especially the capital, is beset by violence, crumbling infrastructure and rampant crime, and most humanitarian groups are unable to reach victims who need help.
"In addition to their plight as being displaced, the majority suffer from disease, poverty and malnutrition," the Red Crescent reported.
"Children do not attend schools and are being sheltered in tents, abandoned government buildings with no water or electricity, mosques, churches, or with relatives," it said.
The report jibes with the Iraqi government's announcement Saturday that more than 3,000 families driven out of their Baghdad neighborhoods have returned to their homes in the past three months because of a drop in sectarian violence.
As of Sept. 30, more than 60 percent of displaced Iraqis ?- nearly 1.5 million people ?- were in Baghdad. "It has the largest number of displaced people as a result of many explosions, military operations and armed conflicts," the report said.
The Red Crescent report did not specify whether the number of displaced people in Baghdad had risen in fallen in the past three months.
The figures in Monday's report were tabulated by Red Crescent coordinators and volunteers in all 18 Iraqi provinces. The group says it has 5,000 employees and 95,000 volunteers working at 365 offices around the country.
Meanwhile, violence continued Monday, but at lower levels ?- in line with a trend of reduced numbers of attacks in recent months.
A roadside bomb killed one civilian and wounded four others in eastern Baghdad, police said. Another such bomb exploded near Suwayrah, 25 miles south of the capital, killing another civilian, officers said.
Later Monday, gunmen assassinated a member of the neighborhood council in Khadra, an area of western Baghdad, police said. Hamad Abdul-Latif was driving his car in the adjacent al-Jamia area when he was attacked, police said.
Approaching the year's end ?- more than four months after the U.S. completed a 30,000-strong force buildup ?- the monthly death toll among Americans and Iraqis has fallen dramatically.
At least 1,023 Iraqi civilians died in September; in October, that figure was just 875. The number of U.S. troop deaths dropped from 65 to 36 in the same period, according to statistics kept by the AP. That's the lowest monthly toll of American deaths this year.
On average, 56 Iraqis ?- civilians and security forces ?- have died each day so far in 2007.
But 2007 is on course to be the deadliest year on record for American troops in Iraq, despite the recent sharp drop in U.S. deaths.
At least 847 American military personnel have died in Iraq so far this year ?- the second-highest annual toll since the war began in March 2003, according to Associated Press figures.
If four more U.S. troops by the year's end, this year will surpass 2004 as the bloodiest year of the war for the U.S.
Some 850 troops died in 2004, mostly in larger, more conventional battles like the campaign to cleanse Fallujah of Sunni militants in November, and U.S. clashes with Shiite militiamen in the sect's holy city of Najaf in August.
But the American military in Iraq reached its highest troop levels in Iraq this year ?- 165,000. Moreover, the military's decision to send soldiers out of large bases and into Iraqi communities means more troops have seen more "contact with enemy forces" than ever before, said Maj. Winfield Danielson, a U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad.
"It's due to the troop surge, which allowed us to go into areas that were previously safe havens for insurgents," Danielson said. "Having more soldiers, and having them out in the communities, certainly contributes to our casualties."
So, what exactly would be success for you?
Success is not achieved merely by complaining about the lack of it.
ican711nm wrote:Success is not achieved merely by complaining about the lack of it.
Nor cheerleading false statistics.
Cycloptichorn
Cycloptichorn wrote:ican711nm wrote:Success is not achieved merely by complaining about the lack of it.
Nor cheerleading false statistics.
Cycloptichorn
Perfection is not achieved merely by complaining about lack of perfection.
Cycloptichorn wrote:ican711nm wrote:Success is not achieved merely by complaining about the lack of it.
Nor cheerleading false statistics.
Cycloptichorn
Perfection is not achieved merely by complaining about lack of perfection.
