cicerone imposter wrote:How do we lose our freedoms if we "lose" in Iraq? Show us the ways?
The Bush regime has already taken away some of our Constitutional guarantees and Bill of Rights to "privacy," Habeas Corpus, and imprisonment without right to legal representation if "they" deem us to be spies or threaten the US in any way.
Cice, Your post is demonstration of extraordinary incompetence!
If any of us in the USA are suspected of spying, murdering, stealing, defrauding, assaulting, criminal libeling or criminal slandering, we must be indicted and convicted before we are fined and/or imprisoned and/or executed.
You Cice, asked, "How do we lose our freedoms if we "lose" in Iraq? Show us the ways?"
Here again is some evidence that al-Qaeda's true intentions are to get Americans to leave Iraq, and follow up our departure with many more 9/11 equivalents or worse.
Osama bin Laden wrote:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/fatwa_1996.html
Osama Bin Laden "Declaration of War Against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places"-
1996.
I say to you ... These youths [love] death as you love life.
Those youths know that their rewards in fighting you, the USA, is double than their rewards in fighting some one else not from the people of the book. They have no intention except to enter paradise by killing you. An infidel, and enemy of God like you, cannot be in the same hell with his righteous executioner.
Few days ago the news agencies had reported that the Defence Secretary of the Crusading Americans had said that "the explosion at Riyadh and Al-Khobar had taught him one lesson: that is not to withdraw when attacked by coward terrorists".
We say to the Defence Secretary that his talk can induce a grieving mother to laughter! and shows the fears that had enshrined you all. Where was this false courage of yours when the explosion in Beirut took place on 1983 AD (1403 A.H). You were turned into scattered pits and pieces at that time; 241 mainly marines solders were killed. And where was this courage of yours when two explosions made you to leave Aden in lees than twenty four hours!
But your most disgraceful case was in Somalia; where- after vigorous propaganda about the power of the USA and its post cold war leadership of the new world order- you moved tens of thousands of international force, including twenty eight thousands American solders into Somalia. However, when tens of your solders were killed in minor battles and one American Pilot was dragged in the streets of Mogadishu you left the area carrying disappointment, humiliation, defeat and your dead with you. Clinton appeared in front of the whole world threatening and promising revenge , but these threats were merely a preparation for withdrawal. You have been disgraced by Allah and you withdrew; the extent of your impotence and weaknesses became very clear. It was a pleasure for the "heart" of every Muslim and a remedy to the "chests" of believing nations to see you defeated in the three Islamic cities of Beirut , Aden and Mogadishu.
Osama bin Laden wrote:
http://www.ict.org.il/articles/fatwah.htm
Osama Bin Laden: Text of Fatwah Urging Jihad Against Americans-
1998
On that basis, and in compliance with Allah's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims:
The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah."
Osama bin Laden wrote:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00035.html
Al-Qaida Statement Warning Muslims Against Associating With The Crusaders And Idols; Translation By JUS; Jun 09,
2004 from the Al-Qaida Organization of the Arab Gulf; 19 Rabbi Al-Akhir 1425
No Muslim should risk his life as he may inadvertently be killed if he associates with the Crusaders, whom we have no choice but to kill.
Everything related to them such as complexes, bases, means of transportation, especially Western and American Airlines, will be our main and direct targets in our forthcoming operations on our path of Jihad that we, with Allah's Power, will not turn away from.
Jordanian journalist, Fouad Hussein in his 2005 book, Al-Zarqawi: al Qaeda's Second Generation, wrote:
Al Qaeda's seven phase plan for world conquest.
Phase 1, the "wakeup call." Spectacular terrorist attacks on the West
(like September 11, 2001) get the infidels (non-Moslems) to make war on
Islamic nations. This arouses Moslems, and causes them to flock to al
Qaedas banner. This phase is considered complete.
Phase 2, the "eye opening." This is the phase we are in, where al Qaeda
does battle with the infidels, and shows over a billion Moslems how
it's done. This phase is supposed to be completed by next year.
Phase 3, "the rising." Millions of aroused (in a terrorist sense)
Moslems go to war against Islam's enemies for the rest of the decade.
Especially heavy attacks are made against Israel. It is believed that
major damage in Israel will force the world to acknowledge al Qaeda as a major power, and negotiate with it.
Phase 4, "the downfall." By 2013, al Qaeda will control the Persian
Gulf, and all its oil, as well as most of the Middle East. This will
enable al Qaeda to cripple the American economy, and American military
power.
Phase 5, "the Caliphate." By 2016, the Caliphate (one government for
all Moslem nations) will be established. At this point, nearly all
Western cultural influences will be eliminated from Islamic nations. The
Caliphate will organize a mighty army for the next phase.
Phase 6, "world conquest." By 2022, the rest of the world will be
conquered by the righteous and unstoppable armies of Islam. This is the
phase that Osama bin Laden has been talking about for years.
Phase 7, "final victory." All the world's inhabitants will be forced to
either convert to Islam, or submit (as second class citizens) to
Islamic rule. This will be completed by 2025 or thereabouts.
In the Booklet, the Pakistani jihadist group Lashkar-e-Taiba (Army of the Pure), wrote:
... the U.S., Israel and India [are] existential enemies of Islam and lists eight reasons for global jihad. These include the restoration of Islamic sovereignty to all lands where Muslims were once ascendant, including Spain, "Bulgaria, Hungary, Cyprus, Sicily, Ethiopia, Russian Turkistan and Chinese Turkistan. . . Even parts of France reaching 90 kilometers outside Paris."
We must defeat Al Qaeda, because if we don't, they will attack the US with wave after wave of suicide bombings and other attacks, all carefully designed to get the US populace to give up trying to protect our democratic republic, and allow those in America who seek a dictatorship to institute a dictatorship (for example, Islamic Dictatorship, Soros Gang Dictatorship, Neo-Conservative Dictatorship, et cetera).
While we might be able to avoid all these dictatorships, if we fence our borders, monitor international communications, and suspend habeas corpus for those who are
a wager of war on us, all that will probably not happen until one of these damn dictatorships is established.
I define a
a wager of war on us = a non-citizen and a non-legal resident of America, for whom our military possesses sufficient evidence to merely indict them to be an advocate, supporter, planer, financer or perpetrater of the mass murder of USA civilians. So when I use the words
a wager of war on us that definition is what I mean.
Hurray! Fantastic! If this is true--and I sincerely hope it is--We are closer to winning and succeeding in Iraq than I thought!
