Re: Which Iraq Benchmarks Are Being Met?
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
Which Iraq Benchmarks Are Being Met?
A Look Behind the Numbers: Are Important Goals Being Met?
July 12, 2007
ABC News
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The report cites one reason for the difficulties, saying, "The increasing concern among Iraqi political leaders that the U.S. may not have a long-term commitment to Iraq has served in recent months to reinforce hedging behaviors and made the hardest political bargains even more difficult."
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One more time:
"The increasing concern among Iraqi political leaders that the U.S. may not have a long-term commitment to Iraq has served in recent months to reinforce hedging behaviors and made the hardest political bargains even more difficult."
You guys are doing your part magnifying: "The increasing concern among Iraqi political leaders that the U.S. may not have a long-term commitment to Iraq has served in recent months to reinforce hedging behaviors and made the hardest political bargains even more difficult."
While success in magnifying that consern may be yours, failure will be the American people's.
Aren't you proud?
Rice has learned her lesson well from her boss; use fear.
Gee, when have we heard this before? At least Bush's message is consistently wrong.
Bush: We all want troops home
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President Bush acknowledged publicly for the first time that someone in his administration leaked the name of a CIA operative, although he also said he hopes the controversy over his decision to spare prison for a former White House aide has "run its course."
By David Jackson, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON ?- President Bush on Thursday sought to shift the debate over the Iraq war, saying it is not a question of who wants to bring troops home, but is rather a debate between those who want to "win" and those who want to "lose."
This dummy has sacrificed nothing, so how can he talk about "win and lose?"
"I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now," he said. "To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region and for the United States."
The president, speaking at his first full-blown news conference since May 24, said he, too, would like to bring troops home, but that this was not the real issue.
"The real debate over Iraq is between those who think the fight is lost or not and those who believe the fight can be won and that as difficult as the fight is, the cost of defeat would be far higher," he said.
Americans don't want to "sacrifice any more of our military and treasure for 50 more years."
Bush's remarks followed the release by the White House of a report that says Iraq is only making progress on half of the government benchmarks on political and security fronts.
It's the same half since 2003, but actually situation in Iraq has gotten worse.
cicerone imposter wrote:Rice has learned her lesson well from her boss; use fear.
Rice is using reality.
You are using and have continually been using fear in this forum to magnify: "The increasing concern among Iraqi political leaders that the U.S. may not have a long-term commitment to Iraq has served in recent months to reinforce hedging behaviors and made the hardest political bargains even more difficult."
Your standard modus operandi is to accuse those you disagree with of doing exactly what you have been doing. You have been, are, and most likely will be using fear to promote your objectives. You do this by means of your own comments as well as by means of excerpts of comments by those who support your comments.
ican, How about you send your family members to serve in Iraq, since you want to support Bush's stay the course? As you are probably aware, we're short on soldiers, and trying to keep up with this war will take more "volunteers" like yourself.
Brand X wrote:Quote:"The increasing concern among Iraqi political leaders that the U.S. may not have a long-term commitment to Iraq has served in recent months to reinforce hedging behaviors and made the hardest political bargains even more difficult."
WHAT A CROCK OF ****!
I agree completely. Blaming the US for their inability to put their divisions aside and work together is indeed a crock of ****.
Cycloptichron
Brand X wrote:Quote:"The increasing concern among Iraqi political leaders that the U.S. may not have a long-term commitment to Iraq has served in recent months to reinforce hedging behaviors and made the hardest political bargains even more difficult."
WHAT A CROCK OF ****!
Hey who posted this crock of ****----Oh, I should have known---ican.
He'd believe most anything Bush says.
cicerone imposter wrote:ican, How about you send your family members to serve in Iraq, since you want to support Bush's stay the course? As you are probably aware, we're short on soldiers, and trying to keep up with this war will take more "volunteers" like yourself.
I don't want to support Bush's stay in Iraq.
I want to support the USA's effort to succeed in Iraq.
We are not a nation at war, no one has had to make a single sacrifice except those in the military and their families.
We are an army at war, that's all.
Brand X, It's obvious you know nothing about huge federal deficits and how that impacts everybody.
Cycloptichorn wrote:Brand X wrote:Quote:"The increasing concern among Iraqi political leaders that the U.S. may not have a long-term commitment to Iraq has served in recent months to reinforce hedging behaviors and made the hardest political bargains even more difficult."
WHAT A CROCK OF ****!
I agree completely. Blaming the US for their inability to put their divisions aside and work together is indeed a crock of ****.
Cycloptichron
You cannot look at reality if your life depended on it. Whoops! Probably your life does depend on it!
cicerone imposter wrote:Brand X, It's obvious you know nothing about huge federal deficits and how that impacts everybody.
The deficit is not huge and is shrinking with each stroke of my keys.
I bet what you're resentful about is the government isn't stealing enough from others and giving it to you.
U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK
The Outstanding Public Debt as of 12 Jul 2007 at 10:01:14 PM GMT is:
The estimated population of the United States is 302,410,698
so each citizen's share of this debt is $29,345.14.
The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.28 billion per day since September 29, 2006!
Concerned? Then tell Congress and the White House!
Brand X wrote:We are not a nation at war, no one has had to make a single sacrifice except those in the military and their families.
We are an army at war, that's all.
The USA's military--army, navy, air force, national guards, and coast guard--are at war. The people who manufacture and transport the ordnance for our military are at war. The people who finance the war are at war.
The American non-murderers who were injured by al-Qaeda suicides are at war.
The American non-murderers who were mass murdered by al-Qaeda suicides are
not at war.
Make sure you add 144 billion dollars, the prices of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
No point in ignoring the costs of that, is there? They go on the books either way.
Cycloptichorn
Cycloptichorn wrote:Make sure you add 144 billion dollars, the prices of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
No point in ignoring the costs of that, is there? They go on the books either way.
Cycloptichorn
Federal Budget Deficits in the years 2006 & 2007; page 2, Table 1:
October 2005 to September 2006 = $248.2 Billion
October 2006 to June 2007 = $121.0 Billion
From page 3, Table 2:
estimate for full fiscal year,
October 2006 to September 2007 = $204.7 Billion
ican711nm wrote:Cycloptichorn wrote:Make sure you add 144 billion dollars, the prices of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
No point in ignoring the costs of that, is there? They go on the books either way.
Cycloptichorn
Federal Budget Deficits in the years 2006 & 2007; page 2, Table 1:
October 2005 to September 2006 = $248.2 Billion
October 2006 to June 2007 = $121.0 Billion
From page 3, Table 2:
estimate for full fiscal year,
October 2006 to September 2007 = $204.7 Billion
Yes, and make sure you, as I said, add anywhere from 130-150 billion for the cost of the war. You can't just ignore those costs, as you seem to want to.
Cycloptichorn
