Diary of a graveyard.

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Just a note from me to let you know I'm continuing to enjoy this thread every day.

When I see the fences, a thought comes to mind. There seems to be a resurgence of stealing metal for scrap. It amazes me that unscrupulous types haven't ripped off these fences and sold them for scrap. To those folks, nothing is sacred.

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ACtually, I have a few other pictures of some of what is left of the more elaborate fences.

People steal them all the time.

It is sad, as they are really beautiful. But I am going to stop posting for the night. Im gettin sleeeeepppy. Smile

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Reyn wrote:

Just a note from me to let you know I'm continuing to enjoy this thread every day.

Thank you for that by the way. Smile

I can tell from the views, this thread is being enjoyed... very much.
But I would lie if I said, it wasnt nice to hear it too.

Off I am to post some more fences.
Now, I think the only ones that are left are examples of theft..
But what IS left of them is beautiful in its own right..

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This is a fence that has been stolen a few times.
I personally am not even sure it encompasses the original grave anymore.

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This is one of the only elaborate ones that has a good chunk of it left.

It has to be one of my favorites.

But again, thanks to the rain, I did not get an excellent picture..

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Like Reyn, I am still enjoying it too.

Makes me want to go out an take pix. Unfortunately, the landscape here and now (new england winter) isn't so appealing.

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littlek wrote:

Makes me want to go out an take pix. Unfortunately, the landscape here and now (new england winter) isn't so appealing.

Same here - and additionally, the cemetary in my native town isn't that old (those here are much newer - people don't keep their family burial places longer than 30, 40 years nowadays).

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What do you mean by that?

That they stop taking care of them? Or do they remove the headstones after a while?

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littlek wrote:

Like Reyn, I am still enjoying it too.
Makes me want to go out an take pix. .

I took some with you in mind in fact..

What I think is really cool about this one is that it is from 1858 for starters..
( The writting is too close to the bottom of the tree to get a picture of, I had to stick my head right against the tree to be able to read it. And, even then all I could see was Died August 1858)

But, I wonder if it has been in that position since the tree was just a twig?
Or did it fall over later on, and the tree just kept going?

I doubt it was forced in there as you can see that the tree grew around it.

It is just another example of mother nature taking over .

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shewolfnm wrote:

That they stop taking care of them? Or do they remove the headstones after a while?

Both. People e.g. live far away, gardeners are two expensive ...

And - depending on where you live - you just buy the place for 15 to 30 years.

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I see part of the cemetery borders near houses?

Is there a caretaker for this cemetery? Or does anyone do rounds to see that no vandalism is taking place?

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

And - depending on where you live - you just buy the place for 15 to 30 years.

uhhh

then what happens with the bodies?
They are left there? Or transplanted?

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Reyn wrote:

I see part of the cemetery borders near houses?

Is there a caretaker for this cemetery? Or does anyone do rounds to see that no vandalism is taking place?

there are keepers yes.. BUT.. they are not there long enough to watch out for damage, grave robbers , or other folks who just mess it up.
Example, when I went the last time, there were golf balls every where.
It looked like someone was playing golf, and didnt want to pick up thier 12 or more balls..

People walk around and eat while they are there, ignoring the trash cans and throwing the trash on the ground.

The only regular thing that happens is mowing.
Once every 2 weeks the entire place gets mowed.

There is no regular police patrol, no nothing.

The houses that border it are mostly empty / new construction.

The older ones dont seem to stay occupied for very long.

Still, I can walk a few feet and be hidden by trees and large headstones to do what ever I wanted in the yard . That is where most of the damage is done anyway... Just far enough inside where people can not see you.
It is like a forrest.

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Walter Hinteler wrote:

shewolfnm wrote:

That they stop taking care of them? Or do they remove the headstones after a while?

And - depending on where you live - you just buy the place for 15 to 30 years.

after the 15-30 years who owns the plot do you (the owner) sell it or does it revert to the original owner (person who sold it to you)?

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shewolfnm wrote:

then what happens with the bodies?
They are left there? Or transplanted?

Left.

I just looked up various cemetaries statues: 25 years is the average - for prenatal children only 10 years, for tombs which are 'cosed' (e.g. comletely by a stone) 10 years more.

This is nothing new, it was done since at least since the end of the Middle Ages.

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I actually think that is how it SHOULD be done.

We should outlaw concrete and stone coffins. make them of thin wood. Wood that should break down and dissolve quickly.

The human body, if only placed in dirt, is completely 'dust' in less then a year.
The bones take a while longer but in moist rich soil , everything can be gone in 3 years. Sandy dry soil, MUCH longer. 10+.

Yet, we continue to place our loved ones in coffins made of silver and gold. Paying 5000.00+ for a box to let their bodies deteoriate in. treat the ground above as 'sacred' and take up more and more space.

but.. dont get me on that soapbox. I will stay there for a while. Smile

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shewolfnm wrote:

I actually think that is how it SHOULD be done.

We should outlaw concrete and stone coffins. make them of thin wood. Wood that should break down and dissolve quickly.

Agreed.

Walter the proceedure you describe is not an sccepted practice here. Dont be too surprised at the questions I ask.

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Here in America it is tabu as well to 'leave a grave'

In fact, if you own property that has a gravesite on it, you will be charged with a felony for digging it up , moving it, or removing the headstone.

Graves are permanent ( at least society wants you to think that here...)

Wich explains why we have SO many graveyards that are polluting our water systems..

it isnt the humans in them. It is the fancy , toxic coffins, and odd non native plants people place on top of them .

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Coffins are all wooden here - though some are sold of "wood-looking" cardboard as well.

Cemetaries at first were churchyards - and there wasn'r much space.

Later, they were planned outside the town walls .... but nowadays, there within the town's borders again, and land is too expensive to buy.

Even in small, rural parts of the country, now "anonymous" funerals are done more and more: not a big service in the chapel, no real tomb but just a whole and some flowers, lasting perhaps only a few days ...

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