The World According To Jimmy Carter

LoneStarMadam wrote:

dyslexia wrote:

News Flash for LSM, the dems won Congress.

Question for dyslexia, do Dems believe that they own the justice system?

Lets make a list
(1) Iraq
(2) Afghanistan
(3) N Korea
(4) Darfur
(5) Jimmy Carter lifting some maps.
LSM concerns?

This might be a silly question, but aren't most maps duplicates of each other with a little embellishment and added specialized detail here and there?

The geography doesn't get up and move to the north one day and then to the west the next.

Is it the stylised artwork they claim to have been swiped or duplicated?

If I use a different type of writing implement to trace the outline of a previously published map, and publish it, is that stealing? For example, paintbrush vs. ink pen.

The issue, for Lonestarmadam is that the dems won congress and FDR/Carter are now the total villians and something must be found to divert attention for the reps loss.

I don't have to remind you, Dys, but perhaps LSM doesn't understand why, all of a sudden, the right is all exercised about Jimmy Carter. It's because he thinks you can negotiate your way to peace in the Middle East. He thinks the USA should actually talk to Hamas, you know, the democratically elected governing party of the Palestinian government in Gaza? The right wing Republicans running things in Washington, the ones who think we can just plunk democracy down anywhere and it will flourish, refuse to talk to Hamas. Why not? Aren't they the ELECTED representatives of Gaza? Well, yes, but the wingnuts won't talk to anybody they don't like. In other words, screw democracy.

Meanwhile, back to Jimmy, the right is trying to find something, anything, to throw a little muck onto him so that they can continue to ignore him and his reality based view of the world.

Joe(and he's a pretty good Christian for being a Democrat)Nation

Joe Nation wrote:

Joe(and he's a pretty good Christian for being a Democrat)Nation

something tells me we won't be seeing GW helping to build habitat for humanity homes in two years

I don't have to remind you, Dys, but perhaps LSM doesn't understand why, all of a sudden, the right is all exercised about Jimmy Carter. It's because he thinks you can negotiate your way to peace in the Middle East. He thinks the USA should actually talk to Hamas, you know, the democratically elected governing party of the Palestinian government in Gaza? The right wing Republicans running things in Washington, the ones who think we can just plunk democracy down anywhere and it will flourish, refuse to talk to Hamas. Why not? Aren't they the ELECTED representatives of Gaza? Well, yes, but the wingnuts won't talk to anybody they don't like. In other words, screw democracy.

Meanwhile, back to Jimmy, the right is trying to find something, anything, to throw a little muck onto him so that they can continue to ignore him and his reality based view of the world.

Joe(and he's a pretty good Christian for being a Democrat)Nation

Dennis Ross said that he compiled those maps & they are copyrigjhted.

Absolutely right, msolga. And you last sentence added a nice touch of subtle irony. :wink:

Dennis Ross, a former Mideast envoy and FOX News foreign affairs analyst, claims maps commissioned and published by him were improperly republished in Carter's book.

LoneStarMadam wrote:

Dennis Ross said that he compiled those maps & they are copyrigjhted.

well, then like we've been saying, all he has to do is show up at the lawyers and prove;

1) that the maps in carter's book are the exact same maps.

2) provide the originals.

3) provide his certified copyright forms for those works.

if carter plagerized the work, or did not follow an agreement with ross, he'll have to pay up.

it's a very mechanical process.

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Dennis Ross, a former Mideast envoy and FOX News foreign affairs analyst, claims maps commissioned and published by him were improperly republished in Carter's book.

WARNING: FOX NEWS Link

That Ross is a FOX News analyst is all I needed to know.

Diane wrote:

Absolutely right, msolga. And you last sentence added a nice touch of subtle irony. :wink:

Well, Diane, frankly I see much of this thread as a silly, rather desperate nit-picking exercise for political purposes. Grasping at straws.

If he did, in fact, publish a map without going through the proper procedures then he will be held accountable for doing so. Simple: There are copy-right laws about such things.

But, really, if I compare this with the crime of invading another country for highly suspect reasons, well ......
The thing is, he is proposing some real solutions an extremely volatile situation in the Middle East. For that I give him credit. If only more in the current US government would put their minds to doing the same! The Middle East is not just some side-show of US politics.

Silly or not, in your opinion makes no difference, if jimmah stole anothers copyrighted work, he's a weasel & will be found out.
Ain't it just awful when your hero gets caught for the pettiness that is him.

Joe Nation wrote:

I don't have to remind you, Dys, but perhaps LSM doesn't understand why, all of a sudden, the right is all exercised about Jimmy Carter. It's because he thinks you can negotiate your way to peace in the Middle East. He thinks the USA should actually talk to Hamas, you know, the democratically elected governing party of the Palestinian government in Gaza? The right wing Republicans running things in Washington, the ones who think we can just plunk democracy down anywhere and it will flourish, refuse to talk to Hamas. Why not? Aren't they the ELECTED representatives of Gaza? Well, yes, but the wingnuts won't talk to anybody they don't like. In other words, screw democracy.

Meanwhile, back to Jimmy, the right is trying to find something, anything, to throw a little muck onto him so that they can continue to ignore him and his reality based view of the world.

Joe(and he's a pretty good Christian for being a Democrat)Nation

Thank you for explaining that, Joe. As an outsider (not of the US) I was wondering why Jimmy Carter was suddenly the subject of so much flack here. He wants to negotiate peace in the Middle East? He thinks the US should talk to Hamas? What enlightened thinking! Sounds very sensible & realistic to me, even if he is a shameless map stealer! :wink:

LoneStarMadam wrote:

Silly or not, in your opinion makes no difference, if jimmah stole anothers copyrighted work, he's a weasel & will be found out.
Ain't it just awful when your hero gets caught for the pettiness that is him.

I generally don't choose politicians as my "heroes", LSM, but I do have some regard for Jimmy Carter. I'm sure The Stolen Maps Incident will sort itself out to everyone's satisfaction. Sorry, but I just don't see it as the huge deal that you do. I can think of many far more weasely acts by politicians than that!