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All things Pelosi

 
 
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 12:56 pm
LoneStarMadam wrote:
From JSTOR, lost art of profanity.

Rather than provide a link to an accessible source that could verify your definition, you provide a non-link to an inaccessible source that may or may not verify your definition. Thanks, but, on second thought, no thanks.

LoneStarMadam wrote:
Wally draggle Jerk, snake, schizophrenic, panty-waist, communist.

It's hard to imagine any single word or phrase encompassing all of those attributes in one definition. Jerks, after all, are not confined to a single political ideology, and thus to define "wally draggle" as a "jerk" and a "communist" would seem to be both under-inclusive and over-inclusive. Needless to say, the situation gets no better by adding "snake," "schizophrenic," and "panty-waist" as defining attributes of your typical wally draggle.

What you're ultimately left with is a sort of humpty-dumpty type of definition, where "wally draggle" means whatever you want it to mean -- nothing more and nothing less. You'll permit me the same liberty, then, to come up with my own definition of the term. I'm sure a wally draggle like yourself will be able to figure it out.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 02:13 pm
Main Entry: wal·ly·drai·gle
Pronunciation: 'wA-lE-"drA-g&l, 'wä-lE-
Function: noun
Etymology: perhaps from Scots wally (alteration of wallaway, exclamation of woe) + dragle draggle
chiefly Scottish : a feeble, imperfectly developed, or slovenly creature
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 02:55 pm
Oh, she meant a "wallydraigle!" Well, why didn't she say so in the first place. A "wally draggle" is just a nonsense phrase, whereas everyone knows what a "wallydraigle" is:
    Usually a word referring to the youngest bird in a nest, wallydraigle is also used to refer to a weak, sickly child or animal. [b]It is also used to mean a worthless woman or a sloven[/b].
How fitting, then, that LSM should choose to use that term.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 03:02 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
From JSTOR, lost art of profanity.

Rather than provide a link to an accessible source that could verify your definition, you provide a non-link to an inaccessible source that may or may not verify your definition. Thanks, but, on second thought, no thanks.

LoneStarMadam wrote:
Wally draggle Jerk, snake, schizophrenic, panty-waist, communist.

It's hard to imagine any single word or phrase encompassing all of those attributes in one definition. Jerks, after all, are not confined to a single political ideology, and thus to define "wally draggle" as a "jerk" and a "communist" would seem to be both under-inclusive and over-inclusive. Needless to say, the situation gets no better by adding "snake," "schizophrenic," and "panty-waist" as defining attributes of your typical wally draggle.

What you're ultimately left with is a sort of humpty-dumpty type of definition, where "wally draggle" means whatever you want it to mean -- nothing more and nothing less. You'll permit me the same liberty, then, to come up with my own definition of the term. I'm sure a wally draggle like yourself will be able to figure it out.

Tough isn't it, not knowing what a phradse means & then blame another poster for your ignorance. It's important that I know what it means, & if you really want to be educated on the phrase, then it's important that you find out.
I lived in England for 10+ years, it's a term some Brits use to describe stupid people.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 03:04 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
Oh, she meant a "wallydraigle!" Well, why didn't she say so in the first place. A "wally draggle" is just a nonsense phrase, whereas everyone knows what a "wallydraigle" is:
    Usually a word referring to the youngest bird in a nest, wallydraigle is also used to refer to a weak, sickly child or animal. [b]It is also used to mean a worthless woman or a sloven[/b].
How fitting, then, that LSM should choose to use that term.

"You can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time"
Abraham Lincoln.
You had no clue.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 03:39 pm
LoneStarMadam wrote:
"You can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time"
Abraham Lincoln.

And you, madame, fool no one.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 04:04 pm
timberlandko wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
"You can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time"
Abraham Lincoln.

And you, madame, fool no one.


Amen.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 04:43 pm
LoneStarMadam wrote:
Tough isn't it, not knowing what a phradse means & then blame another poster for your ignorance.

Well, at least I can take comfort in the fact that I know the difference between a platypus and a platterpuss.

LoneStarMadam wrote:
It's important that I know what it means, & if you really want to be educated on the phrase, then it's important that you find out.

Given the definitions that I and dyslexia found, it is quite apparent that you don't know what "wallydraigle" means. As for "wally draggle," since the phrase evidently has no definition, I suppose yours is as good as anyone else's.

LoneStarMadam wrote:
I lived in England for 10+ years, it's a term some Brits use to describe stupid people.

As well as jerks, snakes, schizophrenics, panty-waists, and communists, no doubt.
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JPB
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 05:58 pm
The Brits are coming!
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 07:20 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
Oh, she meant a "wallydraigle!" Well, why didn't she say so in the first place. A "wally draggle" is just a nonsense phrase, whereas everyone knows what a "wallydraigle" is:
    Usually a word referring to the youngest bird in a nest, wallydraigle is also used to refer to a weak, sickly child or animal. [b]It is also used to mean a worthless woman or a sloven[/b].
How fitting, then, that LSM should choose to use that term.


Joe, meet madam, Madam meet Joe, this could be the beginning of beautiful, albeit brief, friendship.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 07:23 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
Tough isn't it, not knowing what a phradse means & then blame another poster for your ignorance.

Well, at least I can take comfort in the fact that I know the difference between a platypus and a platterpuss.

LoneStarMadam wrote:
It's important that I know what it means, & if you really want to be educated on the phrase, then it's important that you find out.

Given the definitions that I and dyslexia found, it is quite apparent that you don't know what "wallydraigle" means. As for "wally draggle," since the phrase evidently has no definition, I suppose yours is as good as anyone else's.

LoneStarMadam wrote:
I lived in England for 10+ years, it's a term some Brits use to describe stupid people.

As well as jerks, snakes, schizophrenics, panty-waists, and communists, no doubt.


Do they have a single word for drunken, old, toothless hags in Great Britain? Smile
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Lord Ellpus
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 02:28 am
JPB wrote:
The Brits are coming!


<bugle sounds from stage right, as Ellpus leaps from convenient virtual tree, wearing his favourite Adam Ant outfit>

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b358/lordellpus/hghwymn.jpg

<loud chorus of HOORAH! from stage left>




I don't know lonestarmadam from Adam (a rhyming pun, no less, considering the photo), but I will stand firm, and may I say, even slightly flaccid, behind any A2K member who is in the right!

<another loud chorus of HOORAH! >

In this case, however, as lonestarmadam is only half right, I am typing this whilst standing on one leg!

< a halfhearted mumble of hoorah!, which sort of fizzles out at the end>


I've lived in and around London, the UK leader in silly nicknames and rhyming slang insults, all my life, and can honestly say that I've never heard anyone use the term "Wally Draggle".

HOWEVER.....the term "Wally" IS in common usage and has been for donkey's years.

To call someone a Wally, is to infer that they are either an idiot, or stupid, a social embarrassment, lacking in common sense and many other things relating to their general behavioural stupidity.

I have no idea where the term originated, but can find no trace of "Draggle" on any website apertaining to English slang, rhyming or otherwise.




Just to save any heated discussions in the future, here are some more English slang terms to describe an idiot..........

Plonker
Dipstick
Twonk
F*ckwit
Pillock and Wassock (pronounced wozzock, in my locale)


<Ellpus jumps on virtual steed, which bounds stage right - out of thread, snaring tricorn hat on adjoining advertisements>
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 03:21 am
JPB wrote:
blatham wrote:
Quote:
I'm in love! That is truly a deliciously funny and witty post.


I've been in love with this wit for a long while. An enduring source of pleasure.


ditto
Count me in that group as well! Mark it down, Joe. I'm buying you another beer!
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JPB
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 04:03 am
Lord Ellpus wrote:


Just to save any heated discussions in the future, here are some more English slang terms to describe an idiot..........

Plonker
Dipstick
Twonk
F*ckwit
Pillock and Wassock (pronounced wozzock, in my locale)


<Ellpus jumps on virtual steed, which bounds stage right - out of thread, snaring tricorn hat on adjoining advertisements>


Oh great, just what we need, an approved list of British insults. :wink:

Thanks for stopping by, LE.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 6 Dec, 2006 08:31 am
Roxxxanne wrote:
Do they have a single word for drunken, old, toothless hags in Great Britain? Smile

Wally draggles?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 13 Dec, 2006 09:34 am
Praise for Pelosi (no kidding)

At first incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) stumbled, trying to foist Pennsylvania congressman John Murtha (D-Pa.) on the Democratic Caucus as its majority leader and the formerly impeached federal judge Alcee Hastings (D-Fla.) on the nation as chairman of the Intelligence Committee. But lately she has righted herself. Her recent announcement that she will keep the House in session five days a week and plans to eliminate the annual cost of living increase for legislator salaries are both bold steps in the right direction.

I don't expect to agree with many of her policy positions, but she has staked out some turf that indicates that she may really mean to scrub the institution she now heads clean.

She should now move explicitly to link indexation of congressional and senatorial pay to similar treatment of the federal minimum wage. (But she should first insist that Congress raise the minimum wage to $6.50 to match the 23.6 percent cumulative pay increase the legislators have voted themselves since they last raised the minimum wage). If Congress is going to vote itself annual salary increases to keep pace with inflation, how can it do less for the poorest workers in our economy?

Forcing her colleagues to meet Monday through Friday is a real revolution. During 2006, the House of Representatives only met an average of two days per week ?- about 100 days for the entire year. The vaunted Tuesday-to-Thursday club became the Tuesday-night-to-Thursday-morning club as the members maximized their time away from Washington. In January of 2006 ?- not normally a vacation month ?- Congress met for only one day ?- Jan. 31 ?- and in February it gathered for only two days per week for three weeks. In March, it was in session for only nine days and the pattern continued throughout the year.

Voters correctly figured that if their congresspeople didn't want to work, they would replace them with people that did.

Pelosi now faces the challenge of whether to let West Virginia Democratic Congressman Alan Mollohan head the Appropriations subcommittee, which oversees the FBI, an organization which plans to spend part of the money Mollohan lets them have investigating Mollohan! Formerly the ranking Democrat on the House ethics committee ?- until his scandals forced him to step down ?- Mollohan has increased his assets from less than $500,000 in 2000 to more than $6.3 million in 2004. His investments, which generated less than $80,000 in 2000, reaped between $200,000 and $1.2 million in 2004.

How did he do it? He got federal funding earmarked for certain companies that his friends either owned or worked for, then got his buddies to pick up half the tab for joint real estate investments with him and his family. For example, he got FMW Composite Systems $4.4 million in earmarks and then teamed up with its CEO to buy a $900,000 farm, which the Mollohans and FMW's chief split 50-50. The congressman told The New York Times that the thought that the deal might represent a conflict of interest "did not occur to me" when he ?- literally ?- bought the farm.

Now, under FBI investigation, can he really be trusted to head the subcommittee that controls the Bureau's funding?

Issues like these will crop up throughout the next two years. Congresswomen win leadership positions by the buddy system and the favor system. But once a member emerges to become Speaker, all that has to stop. Gratitude will get you in no end of trouble. What was OK for a congresswoman isn't all right for a Speaker. The relationships that may have sustained her on the way up will only encumber and embarrass her once she's there.

The best way to serve her party and the country is to maintain a certain imperiousness, a splendid disregard for those who may have put her where she is but who now can only drag her down.

Like the pole-vaulter who discards the annoying piece of fiberglass that has lifted him over the bar now that keeping hold of it can only knock off the beam over which he has just leapt, Pelosi must be a ruthless ingrate. Only then can she do right by the congressmen and the party that has elevated her to power, not to mention by her constituents in the rest of the country.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 13 Dec, 2006 10:27 am
Discard the favor system? Not yet. New House Intelligence Committee Chair Short on Intelligence

Quote:
WASHINGTON ?- He is expected to have an acute understanding of terrorist groups and their threats to American interests. But the incoming chairman of a congressional intelligence committee was yesterday struggling to explain his ignorance of Al Qaeda and Hezbollah.

Silvestre Reyes, the Democrat chosen to head the House of Representatives committee, was asked whether members of Al Qaeda came from the Sunni or the Shia branch of Islam.

"Al Qaeda, they have both," he answered, adding: "Predominantly probably Shi'ite."

In fact, Al Qaeda was founded by Usama bin Laden as a Sunni organisation and views Shia Muslims as heretics. The centuries-old now fuels the militias and death squads in Iraq.

Jeff Stein, a reporter for Congressional Quarterly, then put a similar question about Hezbollah, the Lebanese Shia group. "Hezbollah. Uh, Hezbollah . . ." replied Mr Reyes. "Why do you ask me these questions at five o'clock? Can I answer in Spanish? Do you speak Spanish?" Go ahead, said Stein. "Well, I, uh . . ." said the congressman.
Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,236199,00.html Shocked No way that happened, is there? (shakes head in disgust)
What's wrong with Jane Harman anyway? Does anyone know?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 13 Dec, 2006 10:46 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Discard the favor system? Not yet. New House Intelligence Committee Chair Short on Intelligence

Quote:
WASHINGTON ?- He is expected to have an acute understanding of terrorist groups and their threats to American interests. But the incoming chairman of a congressional intelligence committee was yesterday struggling to explain his ignorance of Al Qaeda and Hezbollah.

Silvestre Reyes, the Democrat chosen to head the House of Representatives committee, was asked whether members of Al Qaeda came from the Sunni or the Shia branch of Islam.

"Al Qaeda, they have both," he answered, adding: "Predominantly probably Shi'ite."

In fact, Al Qaeda was founded by Usama bin Laden as a Sunni organisation and views Shia Muslims as heretics. The centuries-old now fuels the militias and death squads in Iraq.

Jeff Stein, a reporter for Congressional Quarterly, then put a similar question about Hezbollah, the Lebanese Shia group. "Hezbollah. Uh, Hezbollah . . ." replied Mr Reyes. "Why do you ask me these questions at five o'clock? Can I answer in Spanish? Do you speak Spanish?" Go ahead, said Stein. "Well, I, uh . . ." said the congressman.
Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,236199,00.html Shocked No way that happened, is there? (shakes head in disgust)
What's wrong with Jane Harman anyway? Does anyone know?


Harman is a big Iraq war and warrantless wiretapping supporter. So she's out, because the vast majority of Democrats are not.

Cycloptichorn
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Wed 13 Dec, 2006 10:52 am
"Harman is a big Iraq war and warrantless wiretapping supporter." I guess that's why only the Bushie's are kicking Pelosi over this.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 13 Dec, 2006 11:04 am
Thanks Cyc.
blueflame1 wrote:
"Harman is a big Iraq war and warrantless wiretapping supporter." I guess that's why only the Bushie's are kicking Pelosi over this.
Why would "only Bushie's" be upset about her picking an incompetent? I don't think a rudimentary clue about who our enemies are is too much to ask… do you?
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