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All things Pelosi

 
 
Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 3 Dec, 2006 05:08 pm
How about a brave patriot who spent his Viet Nam years in a duck blind in Alabama? (when he showed up...)
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Sun 3 Dec, 2006 05:24 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
How about a brave patriot who spent his Viet Nam years in a duck blind in Alabama? (when he showed up...)

Beats the hell out of what billzeebubba did, huh.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sun 3 Dec, 2006 05:43 pm
I agree... that attending a globally recognized institute of higher learning on scholarship is pretty sorry...
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Sun 3 Dec, 2006 08:41 pm
Bi-Polar Bear wrote:
I agree... that attending a globally recognized institute of higher learning on scholarship is pretty sorry...

while skipping out & lying.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Sun 3 Dec, 2006 08:44 pm
LoneStarMadam wrote:
...the other two are muciferous wally draggles...

They're what?
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Sun 3 Dec, 2006 08:54 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
...the other two are muciferous wally draggles...

They're what?

An Australlian duck billed platterpuss with a two by four through it's head.
Brain dead in other words.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sun 3 Dec, 2006 09:53 pm
LoneStarMadam wrote:

George Soros gave money....Hellloooo, anybody home? It isn't his $$$ (even thought his acquirement of those $$ is questionable) it's his philosophy. Socialistic & communistic.
Socialism-Redistribution of wealth & public ownership.


Public ownership of all or most economic activity? Please show me where Soros has come out in favor of government owenership of the economy, as opposed to most of the economy being in private hands. If you cannot, then you have proven that you are wrong in calling Soros socialistic or communist.


LoneStarMadam wrote:
That describes Ted Kennedy to a tee.

Ted Kennedy has come out in favor of government ownership of economic activity? Please show me where Ted Kennedy has come out against private ownership of most of the economy. If you can't, then you are wrong in calling Kennedy a socialist.

Put Chappaquiddick aside, even though it happened half of even your extended lifetime ago. We're dealing with your economic accusations. I'm getting sick of you throwing "socialistic" and "communistic" around without being able to back it up.

You also called Nacy Pelosi a communist. Please show me where Nancy Pelosi has come out in favor of government ownership of the economy, or almost all the economy. If you cannot, then you have shown that you were wrong in calling Nancy Pelosi a communist.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Sun 3 Dec, 2006 10:27 pm
kelticwizard wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:

George Soros gave money....Hellloooo, anybody home? It isn't his $$$ (even thought his acquirement of those $$ is questionable) it's his philosophy. Socialistic & communistic.
Socialism-Redistribution of wealth & public ownership.


Public ownership of all or most economic activity? Please show me where Soros has come out in favor of government owenership of the economy, as opposed to most of the economy being in private hands. If you cannot, then you have proven that you are wrong in calling Soros socialistic or communist.


LoneStarMadam wrote:
That describes Ted Kennedy to a tee.

Ted Kennedy has come out in favor of government ownership of economic activity? Please show me where Ted Kennedy has come out against private ownership of most of the economy. If you can't, then you are wrong in calling Kennedy a socialist.

Put Chappaquiddick aside, even though it happened half of even your extended lifetime ago. We're dealing with your economic accusations. I'm getting sick of you throwing "socialistic" and "communistic" around without being able to back it up.

You also called Nacy Pelosi a communist. Please show me where Nancy Pelosi has come out in favor of government ownership of the economy, or almost all the economy. If you cannot, then you have shown that you were wrong in calling Nancy Pelosi a communist.

The only people that don't know that Soros is a socialist are those that have been living under a rock. You want to know about him, look it up.
I don't care what greatness you believe that Ted Kennedy has done or achieved, he's still a coward that left a young woman to drown. You want to believe he's a good guy, fine, I think he's a blooming fraud. In all of his elections he has dug up his dead relatives bu nary a mention of Mary Jo Kopechmy.
I'll call Pelosi, Soros, Kennedy, or any other public figure what i believe they are, that's my right. they put themselves in the middle of the track, they'll get hits. You don't like it....so what.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Sun 3 Dec, 2006 11:15 pm
LoneStarMadam wrote:

The only people that don't know that Soros is a socialist are those that have been living under a rock. You want to know about him, look it up.


I don't feel like looking it up. If you can't back up your accusations, what are your accusations worth?


LoneStartMadam wrote:
I don't care what greatness you believe that Ted Kennedy has done or achieved.....

Where did I say he achieved greatness? You called him a socialist, and I merely asked where he came out for government control of most of the economy, as opposed to it being in private hands. You came up with nothing. Whatever you feel about Chappaquiddick, it has nothing to do with the economy.

LoneStarMadam wrote:
I'll call Pelosi, Soros, Kennedy, or any other public figure what i believe they are, that's my right.


And it is my right to question your assertions and to ask you to back them up. So far, you haven't done that.

You don't seem to know what you are talking about, that's the trouble. If you call someone a socialist, you have to show where they came out in favor of the government owing or controlling most of the economy. If you can't, then your accusation of "socialist" is mere unsupported ranting.

The right to claim something on a message board does not include the right to be taken seriously. You have called many Democrats socialists and communists, you even snidely asked me if I learned my politics in the Kremlin, but you come up with not a shred of proof.

The Democratic party is the party which believes that fiscal responsibility, strong economic growth and looking after the less fortunate are not antithetical aims but are obtainable at the same time. Bill Clinton proved they were. If that upsets you because you think it is socialistic, (it isn't, it is capitalism adapted to work well), so be it. That doesn't mean anyone has to agree with you, or has not right to question the accusations you make.

Like I posted before-your side lost this election, and you're just looking for an excuse to holler. Any reason will do, whether it makes sense or not.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Sun 3 Dec, 2006 11:28 pm
kelticwizard wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:

The only people that don't know that Soros is a socialist are those that have been living under a rock. You want to know about him, look it up.


I don't feel like looking it up. If you can't back up your accusations, what are your accusations worth?


LoneStartMadam wrote:
I don't care what greatness you believe that Ted Kennedy has done or achieved.....

Where did I say he achieved greatness? You called him a socialist, and I merely asked where he came out for government control of most of the economy, as opposed to it being in private hands. You came up with nothing. Whatever you feel about Chappaquiddick, it has nothing to do with the economy.

LoneStarMadam wrote:
I'll call Pelosi, Soros, Kennedy, or any other public figure what i believe they are, that's my right.


And it is my right to question your assertions and to ask you to back them up. So far, you haven't done that.

You don't seem to know what you are talking about, that's the trouble. If you call someone a socialist, you have to show where they came out in favor of the government owing or controlling most of the economy. If you can't, then your accusation of "socialist" is mere unsupported ranting.

The right to claim something on a message board does not include the right to be taken seriously. You have called many Democrats socialists and communists, you even snidely asked me if I learned my politics in the Kremlin, but you come up with not a shred of proof.

The Democratic party is the party which believes that fiscal responsibility, strong economic growth and looking after the less fortunate are not antithetical aims but are obtainable at the same time. Bill Clinton proved they were. If that upsets you because you think it is socialistic, (it isn't, it is capitalism adapted to work well), so be it. That doesn't mean anyone has to agree with you, or has not right to question the accusations you make.

Like I posted before-your side lost this election, and you're just looking for an excuse to holler. Any reason will do, whether it makes sense or not.

Do you understand what socialism is? We have so many nanny programs that my $$ are paying for that it's unreal. If that isn't re-distribution of wealth, then tell me what is. Teddy kennedy supports more nanny gov't programs than most. Why people fail to realize that these are socialist programs & the proponents of those progarms are socialists is because we started down that sliipery slope so long ago that now most thei it's their right for others to pay for their food, housing, medical & etc. Then too there's the minimum wage, what right does the gov't have to tell a private business how much they will pay their employees, does that not spell public ownership?
My side is the AMerican People, not some damn political party that will sell us all out, (have done) in a heart beat. You want to depend on the gov't to take care of you from cradle to grave, that's your choice, i choose to be what the FFs founded.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 12:21 am
LoneStarMadam wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
...the other two are muciferous wally draggles...

They're what?

An Australlian duck billed platterpuss with a two by four through it's head.
Brain dead in other words.

I have no idea what might be the natural qualities of an Australian duck billed platterpuss, so I suppose it might be muciferous (i.e. containing or secreting mucus). The platypus, on the other hand, has a mucus-secreting gland on its bill; it is, therefore, technically correct to describe the platypus as "muciferous" (although it is redundant to describe the platypus as "Australian," since the platypus is native solely to that continent). The "platterpuss," in contrast, may be resident only in LSM's imagination.

"Wally draggles" is rather more confusing. Keeping with the Australian theme, we discover that "wally" is a slang term for a person who keeps making mistakes, and the British similarly use "wally" to describe a stupid person. So the phrase "what a wally" would make some sense to natives of those lands. Yet in the phrase "muciferous wally draggle," it would seem that "wally" is used as an adjective rather than a noun. That doesn't help explain its meaning, since there is no characteristic or state that can be described as "wally," unless it is that state of being like a wall. Unfortunately, that doesn't help us very much, since things that are like walls or that bear the characteristics of walls seldom secrete mucus, so describing something as being both "muciferous" and "wally" would be to describe something quite a bit more fantastical than a duck-billed, egg-laying mammal.

Perhaps "wally" is used as an adverb to modify "draggle," and the -ly ending might lead us to this conclusion. But then if "wally" is an adverb, then a "wally draggle" is a draggle that has the characteristic of "walliness," which doesn't really advance our understanding.

Alternatively, it could be that "wally draggle" is a noun phrase, like "china doll" or "furniture shop," but in that case its meaning is difficult to discern. That's because "draggle" isn't a noun, it's a verb. English verbs, however, can be used as nouns when describing the action of that verb, so that a "draggle" can be defined as the act of draggling, or, in other words, an act of something being slowly dragged or made wet or soiled by dragging. Thus a "wally draggle" could describe the action of a stupid or clumsy person being dragged through the mud, as in "the constable gave that bloke a right proper wally draggle, he did."

That explanation, however, gets us no closer to an understanding of the phrase "muciferous wally draggle," since, if a "wally draggle" is an action rather than a thing, then a "muciferous wally draggle" is a mucus-secreting action, which makes little sense (actions don't secrete mucus, not even the act of secreting mucus). Furthermore, to describe a person as a "muciferous wally draggle" means that draggle not only is a noun, but it must be a noun that describes a physical thing, not an action. In other words, if a senator is a "muciferous wally draggle," then, according to the rules of English, he must be some kind of a "draggle" ("muciferous" being an adjective, and "wally" being either an adjective or a part of a noun phrase).

Describing, then, a "muciferous wally draggle" as "a platterpuss with a two-by-four through its head" (a neat trick to be sure, but I won't go into the dynamics of putting a two-by-four through the head of presumably mythical beast) doesn't really solve the puzzle. It merely substitutes a slightly less obscure term for one that is completely mysterious. We are, sadly, left as unenlightened as when we first heard the phrase.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 01:17 am
Joe:

Much thanks for the examination of wally draggles and platterpusses.

It is good to know that I was not the only one who was wondering what LoneStarMadam was talking about.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 01:23 am
joefromchicago wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
...the other two are muciferous wally draggles...

They're what?

An Australlian duck billed platterpuss with a two by four through it's head.
Brain dead in other words.

I have no idea what might be the natural qualities of an Australian duck billed platterpuss, so I suppose it might be muciferous (i.e. containing or secreting mucus). The platypus, on the other hand, has a mucus-secreting gland on its bill; it is, therefore, technically correct to describe the platypus as "muciferous" (although it is redundant to describe the platypus as "Australian," since the platypus is native solely to that continent). The "platterpuss," in contrast, may be resident only in LSM's imagination.

"Wally draggles" is rather more confusing. Keeping with the Australian theme, we discover that "wally" is a slang term for a person who keeps making mistakes, and the British similarly use "wally" to describe a stupid person. So the phrase "what a wally" would make some sense to natives of those lands. Yet in the phrase "muciferous wally draggle," it would seem that "wally" is used as an adjective rather than a noun. That doesn't help explain its meaning, since there is no characteristic or state that can be described as "wally," unless it is that state of being like a wall. Unfortunately, that doesn't help us very much, since things that are like walls or that bear the characteristics of walls seldom secrete mucus, so describing something as being both "muciferous" and "wally" would be to describe something quite a bit more fantastical than a duck-billed, egg-laying mammal.

Perhaps "wally" is used as an adverb to modify "draggle," and the -ly ending might lead us to this conclusion. But then if "wally" is an adverb, then a "wally draggle" is a draggle that has the characteristic of "walliness," which doesn't really advance our understanding.

Alternatively, it could be that "wally draggle" is a noun phrase, like "china doll" or "furniture shop," but in that case its meaning is difficult to discern. That's because "draggle" isn't a noun, it's a verb. English verbs, however, can be used as nouns when describing the action of that verb, so that a "draggle" can be defined as the act of draggling, or, in other words, an act of something being slowly dragged or made wet or soiled by dragging. Thus a "wally draggle" could describe the action of a stupid or clumsy person being dragged through the mud, as in "the constable gave that bloke a right proper wally draggle, he did."

That explanation, however, gets us no closer to an understanding of the phrase "muciferous wally draggle," since, if a "wally draggle" is an action rather than a thing, then a "muciferous wally draggle" is a mucus-secreting action, which makes little sense (actions don't secrete mucus, not even the act of secreting mucus). Furthermore, to describe a person as a "muciferous wally draggle" means that draggle not only is a noun, but it must be a noun that describes a physical thing, not an action. In other words, if a senator is a "muciferous wally draggle," then, according to the rules of English, he must be some kind of a "draggle" ("muciferous" being an adjective, and "wally" being either an adjective or a part of a noun phrase).

Describing, then, a "muciferous wally draggle" as "a platterpuss with a two-by-four through its head" (a neat trick to be sure, but I won't go into the dynamics of putting a two-by-four through the head of presumably mythical beast) doesn't really solve the puzzle. It merely substitutes a slightly less obscure term for one that is completely mysterious. We are, sadly, left as unenlightened as when we first heard the phrase.



I'm in love! That is truly a deliciously funny and witty post.


I am completely lost on the "draggle" but, by the way. "Dag" and "daggy" make sense to me...but draggle? Sounds a tad Elizabethan...you know "a drab" and such.....but I do not think I have ever heard it.

"Platterpuss", however, is giving rise to images I wish I had never had cause to experience.

I am curious as to whether calling someone a muciferous wally draggle is a violation of the TOS.

I think someone should report it, as I truly think we need an umpire's decision on this, preferably with an explanation of the ruling.




Unless it's a term of endearment.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 01:51 am
LoneStarMadam wrote:
Do you understand what socialism is?

Yes, I do. Clearly, you do not.


LoneStarMadam wrote:
We have so many nanny programs that my $$ are paying for that it's unreal. If that isn't re-distribution of wealth, then tell me what is.

Socialism is about private property and whether or not the economy is mostly in control of private industry or the government. If you believe in private propery and that most of the economy should be in the hands of private enterprise, then you are not a socialist.



LoneStarMadam wrote:
Why people fail to realize that these are socialist programs & the proponents of those progarms are socialists
What YOU don't realize is that a tax-supported program to aid the poor is not socialism. Socialism is when the government controls the majority of the economy. As long as private enterprise controls most of the economy, you don't have socialism.

How many times do I have to keep correcting you?


LoneStarMadam wrote:
Then too there's the minimum wage, what right does the gov't have to tell a private business how much they will pay their employees, does that not spell public ownership?

So you are saying that ANY government regulation of business at all constitutes taking over that business? That if a state passes a law saying that workers cannot be locked in a windowless room lest they be trapped in a fire, then the government has taken ownership of the business away from the people who started it?

Do you own a car? Doesn't the government have rules saying how fast you can drive that car on city streets and streets with schools on it, and that your headlights must be on at night? Does that mean the government has taken ownership of your car away from you?

Regulation is not the same as ownership, obviously. How you can advance such a flawed, simpleminded argument is amazing.




LoneStarMadam wrote:
My side is the AMerican People, not some damn political party that will sell us all out, (have done) in a heart beat.
Liike hell it is. The American people have voted repeatedly for Social Security, a higher minimum wage, evironmental curbs on industry, and all the things you erroneously call "socialistic". These laws and programs are not socialistic, for the economy the economy still resides mostly in private hands. But the American people do not believe that businesses should be allowed to do anything to increase profit at whatever cost to the community or their employees, or that the government should turn all poor people over to the resources of faith-based charities.

And as Clinton proved, you can help the poor, get rid of the stupendous deficits of the previous Administration and boost the economy to high growth levels all at the same time. It is a matter of understanding the American economy and prioritizing the budget inorder to serve the American people's needs in a REALISTIC matter-not according to a bunch of preconceived principles which have been shown not to work.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 06:51 am
Quote:
I'm in love! That is truly a deliciously funny and witty post.


I've been in love with this wit for a long while. An enduring source of pleasure.
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JPB
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 09:30 am
blatham wrote:
Quote:
I'm in love! That is truly a deliciously funny and witty post.


I've been in love with this wit for a long while. An enduring source of pleasure.


ditto
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 01:57 pm
dlowan wrote:
I'm in love! That is truly a deliciously funny and witty post.


blatham wrote:
I've been in love with this wit for a long while. An enduring source of pleasure.


JPB wrote:
ditto

Well, aren't you just the sweetest bunch of wally draggles!
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 01:59 pm
Interestingly enough, there was an austrailian connection to our previous friend Massogato.

I don't believe Lonestar is anything other than another sock puppet for him. Not for a second.

Cycloptichorn
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Mon 4 Dec, 2006 04:41 pm
From JSTOR, lost art of profanity.
Wally draggle Jerk, snake, schizophrenic, panty-waist, communist.
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jespah
 
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Reply Tue 5 Dec, 2006 05:20 am
dlowan wrote:
...I am completely lost on the "draggle" ...
I am curious as to whether calling someone a muciferous wally draggle is a violation of the TOS.

I think someone should report it, as I truly think we need an umpire's decision on this, preferably with an explanation of the ruling.




Unless it's a term of endearment.


Once the draggles are outlawed, only the muciferous will have draggles.
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