Citizen Border Patrols and the Law

I fail to see how picking our lettuce and taking care of our kids can be considered an invasion. When we invaded Iraq, we did quite a bit more than clean toilets or serve hamburgers.

Incidently Oliver North was part of a scheme to send weapons illegally to a foreign country. To me this is more aptly called an invasion. Invasions generally involve blowing things up. Invasions also have never historically benefitted the economy of the country being invaded. I may agree that the 9/11 terrorists could be considered invaders, but people who come to work and are, with Americans help, are participating in the American economy are far from invaders.

I have a hard time seeing Cristina and her mother, who works cleaning houses while putting her through school as "invaders". Cristina is graduating with good grades, speaks impeccable English and wants to go to college. They are decent people who work hard and have become part of our community and of American society. The word "invader" seems very insulting.

For that matter, I question your use of the phrase "civil rights". Just whose civil rights did Bill Clinton violate? If you are talking about Monica, she is an adult and a willing participant. You have the right to do sexual favors for the president if you wish (and he agrees).

I see a pattern here of misusing terms. Is English your first language Madam?

Is today community service day?

Lonestar, I fail to see the threat illegal immigrants impose, nor do I see the
motivation behind it, hunting them down like animals. This doesn't
make you any better than the illegals - despite your american passport, and
in the eyes of human rights activists, you're just plain despicable.

I was only questioning your use of the word "invader". Illegally lettuce picking, although by definition it is illegal, does not constitute an invasion.

Lonestar, if you consider yourself to be the sane one,
I am happy to be in the loony camp.

If any crazy border patrol vigilante points a gun at me is the desert and tells me to go with him to his ranch-- I think I have the right to Shoot them.

It really angers me that these border patrol vigilantes insist on flying their Flag (which is not the American flag) in my country.

Sometimes I regret the fact that I am a pacifist.

I am more upset by the anti-("illegal")-immigrant protesters flying confederate flags.

I took my kids to the immigrants rights marches this spring. All of the immigrants (both legal and illegal) as well as the American citizens who came out to support them (and there were many of us) had American flags. This only made sense because the immigrants marching wanted to become American citizens, and the Americans marching were marching to support the compassion, freedom and diversity that make America great.

The counter protesters had prominant Confederate flags-- and this was is Boston no less.

Even I was a little taken aback by that.

The people who flew the Confederate flag didn't want to be a part of the United States. To them the American flag was the flag of the enemy.

Had they won, the Confederate flag would have been a foreign flag, and perhaps I would be arguing with people who wanted to build a wall along the Mason Dixon line to keep out illegals.

One difference is that the Immigrants you call "invaders" really want to be Americans. The immigrant rights movement is about gaining a path to citizenship.