Americans United for Separation of Church and State

Cycloptichorn wrote:

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Gov't cannot endorse a religion, that doesn't mean that there can't be any religion in schools.

You're right, it doesn't mean that there can't be any religion in schools.

It means that the gov't can't teach or promote religion in schools using gov't monies. Teaching religion is endorsing religion.

This is not a complicated idea to understand

Cycloptichorn

Ah, so the Christian, Muslim, Bhuddist, etc schools that enjoy the largess of FEDERAL tax $$ by way of the FEDERAL gov't voucher system can no longer teach religion?
Not complicated?

LoneStarMadam wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

Quote:

Gov't cannot endorse a religion, that doesn't mean that there can't be any religion in schools.

You're right, it doesn't mean that there can't be any religion in schools.

It means that the gov't can't teach or promote religion in schools using gov't monies. Teaching religion is endorsing religion.

This is not a complicated idea to understand

Cycloptichorn

Ah, so the Christian, Muslim, Bhuddist, etc schools that enjoy the largess of FEDERAL tax $$ by way of the FEDERAL gov't voucher system can no longer teach religion?
Not complicated?

If teaching religion in schools is like endorsing then how come the Byron Union School District in CA is allowed to teach a 3 week course on Islam to 7th graders? Would the same class be taught if it was about Christianity?

I don't think it would be because of the separation of church and state.

I don't think a 3-week course on Islaam is appropriate at all, personally.

I don't have a problem with teaching of history of the culture, but religion should be kept out of the classroom and I would fight to stop it.

Madam, your link doesn't work; I still haven't seen any evidence of a federal voucher program.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

I don't think a 3-week course on Islaam is appropriate at all, personally.

I don't have a problem with teaching of history of the culture, but religion should be kept out of the classroom and I would fight to stop it.

Madam, your link doesn't work; I still haven't seen any evidence of a federal voucher program.

Cycloptichorn

I;m sorry that the link doesn't work, might I suggest you google school vouchers or federal school vouchers then....I mean, IF you're really interested.
How can the culture of religion be taught without teaching the origins?

LoneStarMadam wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

I don't think a 3-week course on Islaam is appropriate at all, personally.

I don't have a problem with teaching of history of the culture, but religion should be kept out of the classroom and I would fight to stop it.

Madam, your link doesn't work; I still haven't seen any evidence of a federal voucher program.

Cycloptichorn

I;m sorry that the link doesn't work, might I suggest you google school vouchers or federal school vouchers then....I mean, IF you're really interested.
How can the culture of religion be taught without teaching the origins?

Religion and culture are two seperate things, is how.

I did google it; all I can find is a pilot test program in DC. Hardly what we are talking about.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

LoneStarMadam wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

I don't think a 3-week course on Islaam is appropriate at all, personally.

I don't have a problem with teaching of history of the culture, but religion should be kept out of the classroom and I would fight to stop it.

Madam, your link doesn't work; I still haven't seen any evidence of a federal voucher program.

Cycloptichorn

I;m sorry that the link doesn't work, might I suggest you google school vouchers or federal school vouchers then....I mean, IF you're really interested.
How can the culture of religion be taught without teaching the origins?

Religion and culture are two seperate things, is how.

I did google it; all I can find is a pilot test program in DC. Hardly what we are talking about.

Cycloptichorn

The culture of religion must have the origins or there's no way of teaching that. How would you teach about the culture of religion (or anything) without exploring it's roots & then explaining or discussing? Is there a new method of teaching, or is it really "dumming down"?
I'm sorry that you don't seem to be able to find anything on the vouchers, there are lots of links to the subject. However, when I'm looking for something that I really don't want to admit could be a fact, I tend to overlook too. Could that be a possibility?
I think I have exausted my discussion on this with you & see no point in furthering it. If you should find some material on the vouchers & want to discuss & then answer my question, I'll be happy to oblige, until then, it's been real....

Maybe you guys just aren't spellin it right, or maybe you're looking on Al Jazeeras search engines, whatever you're doing it's wrong!!
I DO NOT LIE & resent you blaming your inablity to find anything on me.

http://www.schoolchoice/roo/vouchers.htm

That is very strange to me that not one of you can find anything by yourself. I KNOW the links are on Google, you want to be adult & find them or you want to keep your head buried in the sand & call me a liar? I really don't care one way or the other.

Not strange; it doesn't exist. Give it up! No such voucher program in the US exists. If it had, most of us would have heard of it by now.

LoneStarMadam wrote:

That is very strange to me that not one of you can find anything by yourself. I KNOW the links are on Google, you want to be adult & find them or you want to keep your head buried in the sand & call me a liar? I really don't care one way or the other.

Show me one link....

If you KNOW they are there, prove it.

maporsche wrote:

LoneStarMadam wrote:

That is very strange to me that not one of you can find anything by yourself. I KNOW the links are on Google, you want to be adult & find them or you want to keep your head buried in the sand & call me a liar? I really don't care one way or the other.

Show me one link....

If you KNOW they are there, prove it.

I'm not going to give anymore links, I've given two, they don't work by pointing your little mouse on them, too bad, look them up the old fashioned way.
If you can't do that, then too bad, you'll just have to take my word for it. lmao