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Foley Quits Amid Allegations of Email Sex Scandal

 
 
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 11:39 am
You find her entertaining, because you are a jerk, just like she is.

Cycloptichorn
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 11:48 am
timberlandko wrote:
blueflame1 wrote:
An organization of conservatives says House Majority Leader Dennis Hastert and other Republican leaders who knew there was a problem with former U.S. Rep. Mark Foley, but didn't thoroughly investigate, should resign. [..]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52251

The "Dump Hastert Movement" you allege seems - as yet anyway - to not have any support among the Republican members of Congress - House or Senate,- nor does there seem - as yet anyway - to be prospect of it doing so. Boehner's radio talkshow commentary does not amount to a floor motion. Of course, as more develops, more may develop. I do not expect, however, that developments will trend toward Hastert's removal.


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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 11:56 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
You find her entertaining, because you are a jerk, just like she is.

Cycloptichorn


Not to everyone. Just terrorist sympathizers like you.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 11:58 am
Rolling Eyes

When you can't defend, attack attack attack!

Cycloptichorn
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JPB
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 12:03 pm
nimh wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
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By Ann Coulter

This is the very definition of political opportunism. If Republicans had decided to spy on Foley for sending overly friendly e-mails to pages, Democrats would have been screaming about a Republican witch hunt against gays.

Ah, nonsense. Fifty-something politician actively preys on teenage pages - scandal. Period. Whether the pages are boys or girls dont make any difference - not to Democrats anyway - people would have been indignant either way.

Perhaps the fact that Foley wasn't just preying on teenagers but - oh no! - was being gay and going for boys, in particular, is a big deal for Coulter and the Christian conservatives. Perhaps for them gay preying is just that much more of an issue than regular preying.

But Democrats are not the ones with a hang up on this. For them, the gay angle is irrelevant. A Republican Congressman preyed on teenage pages. Either which way they would have pounced on that.

If anyone seriously thinks that, if the Republican Party had denounced and disciplined Foley for preying on teenage boys, the Democrats would have defended Foley, he or she should check his head. Even just from a cynical power-politics POV: not even the Democrats are that suicidal.


I would hope that you're right, nimh. I'm not convinced that 'Democrats' as a whole would take this position, but I do think that there would be much more of an isolation on preying in general from the Dems than the moral indignation of homosexual preying that I hear from the Republicans. I've heard the word 'disgusting' by many in the Republican leadership. I think we would be hearing words like 'unacceptable' if we were talking about a male Congressman and 16 year old female pages.
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 12:17 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Rolling Eyes

When you can't defend, attack attack attack!

Cycloptichorn


Yeah Tico... you have to defend yourself when someone calls you a jerk... not attack that person... wait a second... isn't calling someone a jerk attacking???
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 12:20 pm
Sure is.

Cycloptichorn
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 12:37 pm
Roxxxanne wrote:
Funny, I knew about this six years ago. I was wondering when it was going to come out.


Then why didnt you report it to the FBI,local police,or other appropriate authorities?
Since you knew about a possible crime,and did nothing,that makes you partly responsible for any harm done to any children by Foley.

While I do hope that Foley does get prosecuted if he committed a crime,I do have to wonder about something.

Exactly what is he guilty of??
He did not,according to all reports,have any type of sexual relationship with any of these pages,so you cant charge him for that.
The best you can charge him with is sexual harrassment.

Now,if I am wrong and if there is more he can be charged with,then why isnt anyone that knew about the crimes and did nothing,be it ABC,bloggers,the repubs,etc being charged with endangering the welfare of a minor?

Now,someone wrote that he had power over these pages,and that is what makes it so bad.

We had a president that had power over an intern,yet many of those on the left didnt consider it sexual harrassment,because she was a willing participant.

Since according to the messages I have read this young man was also a willing participant in the communications,what exactly is the crime?
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NickFun
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 12:43 pm
If we prosectuted all the Republican who have committed sex crimes there would be no Republicans left!
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 12:43 pm
jpinMilwaukee wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Rolling Eyes

When you can't defend, attack attack attack!

Cycloptichorn


Yeah Tico... you have to defend yourself when someone calls you a jerk... not attack that person... wait a second... isn't calling someone a jerk attacking???


jp,

This is the customary way tico and cyclo address each other. They cannot curb their enthusiasm whenever they encounter each other on a thread. Smile
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 12:48 pm
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 12:50 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:


Whose forgiven him?
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 12:52 pm
I'm just trying to make sure I understand the proper defend/attack protocols. From what I gather, it is ok to initiate the attack by name calling, but the attacked must then defend him/herself with something other than name calling.... I'm not quite sure of all the rules yet, though.
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 12:54 pm
That was in response to Wandel's post
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snood
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 12:57 pm
why don't you just let the whole petty thing (that didn't even involve you) go?
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 01:05 pm
Why don't you take some of your own advice?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 01:05 pm
Enhance you calm...

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 01:15 pm
Back on topic, TPM says:

Quote:
The press is already acting a little wary. But to make things worse, we understand that there are other revelations about lawmakers' misbehavior with pages waiting to erupt. Other members, other pages, other scenarios that haven't become public. If any of that dirt breaks in the next 24 hours -- well, it would most likely blow a hole through the GOP message that they've got the situation under control, and start a whole new wave of what-did-they-know, when-did-they-know-it. And it will be even less enjoyable than the first round.


I predict that we still haven't found out everything about this scandal, and that it is going to get worse before it gets any better.

Cycloptichorn
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okie
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 01:54 pm
Has this been posted yet? A prank gone awry? Are the Democrats striking out again, another phony scam by political operatives or dirt bags that did not work?

http://www.drudgereport.com/page.htm
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 5 Oct, 2006 01:59 pm
haha, I saw that, what a stupid thing to report.

First of all, if Pages were baiting Foley into writing inappropriate messages, and he wrote them, he's still in trouble for doing so. The actions of the pages themselves are immaterial to the case.

Second, the IMs in question are only part of a larger story with Rep. Foley - emails, former pages from the 90's, allegedly showing up drunk at a pages dorm, Fordham claiming he warned Denny about this years ago and they did nothing - so it isn't really just a question of how those IMs came about.

Nice try on the Republican side, though, can't blame them

Cycloptichorn
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