No, that is an intentional warping of what i have consistently written. I have continually asserted that if you cannot demonstrate that your "god" exists, the only reasonable assumption is that this "god" is a figment of your imagination, and therefore, i refer to your imaginary friend. I don't assert that there is a "god" of any description, imaginary or otherwise. I simply point out that your "god" constitutes a figment of your imagination unless and until you can provide plausible evidence for your god--something which you simply don't do, and a challenge which you consistently avoid. Smart move on your part--i've know people who are
apparently a good deal more intelligent and mentally adroit than you who have been unable to do so.
I simply point out that your "god" constitutes a figment of your imagination unless and until you can provide plausible evidence for your god--something which you simply don't do, and a challenge which you consistently avoid.
Any attempt to state categorically that one's personal exegesis is unquestionably the "truth" qualifies as "goofy exegesis," because it has not (and likely cannot) be demonstrated. And that is entirely by internal scriptural reference, your case deteriorates even further when the plausibilty of scripture as evidence of fact is assessed from outside the exegetical exercise.
the posts speak for themselves...you said you hoped you were being seen as rude (when speaking to me)bc whacko religious knowitalls disgust you......it may have been indirect but it was still pointed at me...
Here's a crying towell--get over it. Once again, if the shoe fits . . .
Setanta wrote:
kate4christ03 wrote:
setanta why not scroll up and read the next post i made to his remark that i read the links........i couldnt get into the links at that time and was just basing my post on what i knew.......no assumption was necessary.......a simply posed question would have been enough.....and furthermore those links that i was able to get in later,in no way answered my initial question..except to shed some light on the church of nazarene today...it was neo that later answered my question as to their possible link with that of the nazarites of the bible...and he did it without any assumptions or condescension...
The Big Bird responded to your initial post without assumption or condescension. It appears to me that all that is going on here is that you can't handle criticism well, and are unwilling to publicly admit your ignorance.
It has only been as you have become progressively more accusatory, and made a continuing practice of misrepresenting what i have said that i have descended to your level to return the accusations and sneers. You have no one to thank but yourself for this state of affairs. I've seen you in actrion around here for a long time, but have generally not commented on what you post, because i find your drivel distasteful. In this thread, i only addressed you to point out that the Big Bird had not addressed you in a condescending manner, and that you were mistaken. I addressed you politely--and your responded with increasing hysteria and misrepresentation. Finally, i lost patience with you, and determined to treat you exactly as you were feebling attempting to treat other in this thread. Hope you're enjoying it.
When i finally did point out that you spout scripture and mock others who don't agree with you, it was after having attempted to address you courteously--to no purpose. I did not say that this is "all you do," but i did point out that it is habitual with you, and that it has come to characterize your "contribution" in my estimation.
Quote:No, that is an intentional warping of what i have consistently written. I have continually asserted that if you cannot demonstrate that your "god" exists, the only reasonable assumption is that this "god" is a figment of your imagination, and therefore, i refer to your imaginary friend. I don't assert that there is a "god" of any description, imaginary or otherwise. I simply point out that your "god" constitutes a figment of your imagination unless and until you can provide plausible evidence for your god--something which you simply don't do, and a challenge which you consistently avoid. Smart move on your part--i've know people who are
apparently a good deal more intelligent and mentally adroit than you who have been unable to do so.
once more....so you can read it again....Quote:I simply point out that your "god" constitutes a figment of your imagination unless and until you can provide plausible evidence for your god--something which you simply don't do, and a challenge which you consistently avoid.
you have never challenged me nor has anyone else so i cant consistently avoid what has never happened......you first brought this up when i said you have beliefs also...and used your phrase to prove a point(this was a post you made not to me but to another member on another thread) i never said you told me specifically that God is imaginery...i was using this as an example of your beliefs...i wasnt entering into a debate on the existence or trying to give you proof that God exists.....
Quote:Any attempt to state categorically that one's personal exegesis is unquestionably the "truth" qualifies as "goofy exegesis," because it has not (and likely cannot) be demonstrated. And that is entirely by internal scriptural reference, your case deteriorates even further when the plausibilty of scripture as evidence of fact is assessed from outside the exegetical exercise.
once again when have i given a personal exegesis on scripture saying it was the absolute truth......
katewroteQuote:
the posts speak for themselves...you said you hoped you were being seen as rude (when speaking to me)bc whacko religious knowitalls disgust you......it may have been indirect but it was still pointed at me...
setanta wroteQuote:Here's a crying towell--get over it. Once again, if the shoe fits . . .
when i pointed out you call names you first denied it then when i gave proof to that name calling you say Get over it.....its fruitless to debate with you if you keep changing your tune.......
Quote:Setanta wrote:
kate4christ03 wrote:
setanta why not scroll up and read the next post i made to his remark that i read the links........i couldnt get into the links at that time and was just basing my post on what i knew.......no assumption was necessary.......a simply posed question would have been enough.....and furthermore those links that i was able to get in later,in no way answered my initial question..except to shed some light on the church of nazarene today...it was neo that later answered my question as to their possible link with that of the nazarites of the bible...and he did it without any assumptions or condescension...
The Big Bird responded to your initial post without assumption or condescension. It appears to me that all that is going on here is that you can't handle criticism well, and are unwilling to publicly admit your ignorance.
It has only been as you have become progressively more accusatory, and made a continuing practice of misrepresenting what i have said that i have descended to your level to return the accusations and sneers. You have no one to thank but yourself for this state of affairs. I've seen you in actrion around here for a long time, but have generally not commented on what you post, because i find your drivel distasteful. In this thread, i only addressed you to point out that the Big Bird had not addressed you in a condescending manner, and that you were mistaken. I addressed you politely--and your responded with increasing hysteria and misrepresentation. Finally, i lost patience with you, and determined to treat you exactly as you were feebling attempting to treat other in this thread. Hope you're enjoying it.
i wasnt accusatory in my post nor did i sneer. nor did i get hysterical ...the post is evident.....
Quote:When i finally did point out that you spout scripture and mock others who don't agree with you, it was after having attempted to address you courteously--to no purpose. I did not say that this is "all you do," but i did point out that it is habitual with you, and that it has come to characterize your "contribution" in my estimation.
you keep saying this and produce no evidence ...I have asked repeatedly for proof to your accusations.....i am getting tired of asking for proof and not seeing any......i wont even address this anymore bc its evident you have no proof.........
Quote:If you looking for links to quotes of yours, don't hold your breath--i'm not running errands for you. It is enough that i have seen you consistently insist that others don't understand scripture because you have told them what it means, and you will trot out your "LOL" if they don't agree, and claim that your exegesis is the obviously correct one--and therefore, i categorize you as a bible-thumper.
first and foremost i dont lol when others dont agree....i did that once (my very first debate) to wolf and he pointed out that it appeared mocking and i apologized...the only time i do the "lol" now is when people are joking or i am joking...and i havent consistently told others that they dont understand scripture bc they dont agree with me..that is untrue.... and i dont go around peddling my beliefs.....most people in here probably dont know all i believe bc i dont go around spouting it off as you accused.......
You have a problem with me judging their christian beliefs then honestly i dont care ....lol........ But they arent christian
Yes lol......Christ was Gods son ....Christ means annointed one Jesus is the transliteration for the greek Ieosus that is Joshua in hebrew meaning Salvation is of God.........Both names were given to GOds son who came to earth and died on the cross and rose from the grave on the third day....Through him we are given the opportunity to have eternal life with God and forgiveness of sins
..other names include Messiah, Rock, Lamb of God, Immanuel.......
does that help?
What's so funny? Is that a mocking laugh? Not exactly truly Christian of you, is it?
Setanta wrote:
kate4christ03 wrote:
setanta why not scroll up and read the next post i made to his remark that i read the links........i couldnt get into the links at that time and was just basing my post on what i knew.......no assumption was necessary.......a simply posed question would have been enough.....and furthermore those links that i was able to get in later,in no way answered my initial question..except to shed some light on the church of nazarene today...it was neo that later answered my question as to their possible link with that of the nazarites of the bible...and he did it without any assumptions or condescension...
The Big Bird responded to your initial post without assumption or condescension. It appears to me that all that is going on here is that you can't handle criticism well, and are unwilling to publicly admit your ignorance.
It has only been as you have become progressively more accusatory, and made a continuing practice of misrepresenting what i have said that i have descended to your level to return the accusations and sneers. You have no one to thank but yourself for this state of affairs. I've seen you in actrion around here for a long time, but have generally not commented on what you post, because i find your drivel distasteful. In this thread, i only addressed you to point out that the Big Bird had not addressed you in a condescending manner, and that you were mistaken. I addressed you politely--and your responded with increasing hysteria and misrepresentation. Finally, i lost patience with you, and determined to treat you exactly as you were feebling attempting to treat other in this thread. Hope you're enjoying it.
I could think of few things which i would appreciate more than that you abandon your hysteria, and stop butchering my posts to attempt to show what a poor, martyred victim you are.
kate, you persist in avoiding the fact your central proposition, that being some particular interpretation of some particular religiospiritual mythopaeia, remains but an unsubstantiated allegation, a claim severally challenged, disputed rebutted, and refuted without rebuttal or refutation on behalf of that claim, that, only that, and nothing more
kate, refer to your characterization of yourself as a Christian and your assertion that circumstance foundationally influences your POV.
at the top of page 13 i pasted several things you had just previously posted to me....going back now i see that whole post of yours has disappeared ......the only thing i can conclude is that while i was in the process of typing a post and using material from your previous post, you went in and editted it.....
Quote:Setanta wrote:
kate4christ03 wrote:
setanta why not scroll up and read the next post i made to his remark that i read the links........i couldnt get into the links at that time and was just basing my post on what i knew.......no assumption was necessary.......a simply posed question would have been enough.....and furthermore those links that i was able to get in later,in no way answered my initial question..except to shed some light on the church of nazarene today...it was neo that later answered my question as to their possible link with that of the nazarites of the bible...and he did it without any assumptions or condescension...
The Big Bird responded to your initial post without assumption or condescension. It appears to me that all that is going on here is that you can't handle criticism well, and are unwilling to publicly admit your ignorance.
It has only been as you have become progressively more accusatory, and made a continuing practice of misrepresenting what i have said that i have descended to your level to return the accusations and sneers. You have no one to thank but yourself for this state of affairs. I've seen you in actrion around here for a long time, but have generally not commented on what you post, because i find your drivel distasteful. In this thread, i only addressed you to point out that the Big Bird had not addressed you in a condescending manner, and that you were mistaken. I addressed you politely--and your responded with increasing hysteria and misrepresentation. Finally, i lost patience with you, and determined to treat you exactly as you were feebling attempting to treat other in this thread. Hope you're enjoying it.
this bunch of posts were ones i copied straight from your post that must have been editted.....i copied it in the same manner that you put it together.....you in your last post to me used this to accuse me of butchering your posts and mixing them .......i copied it straight from your post...
Quote:I could think of few things which i would appreciate more than that you abandon your hysteria, and stop butchering my posts to attempt to show what a poor, martyred victim you are.
also if anyone wants to note in my last post to you i had copied comments you had made in your previous post...that isnt there at all now.....nothing wrong with editting but dont accuse me of twisting or mixing up your posts when you know i copied it straight from your post...i just didnt get to submit my comment bf you changed what you said......
and im not being hysterical please dont exaggerate...its silly......
I'm more prone to get nasty with religionists than the Big Bird is, which i acknowledge and for which i don't intend to apologize
setanta i never made the supposition that the church of nazarene originated from that of the nazarites of the bible....i threw in the word "maybe" bc i didnt know...and further posts show that i see there is no correlation....
Quote:Since you showed up at this site, you have run around spewing scripture, and telling everyone what it means, and attempting to peddle your particularist view of what scripture means and of what religious truth is
last time i checked this is a religious forum and i can give my opinion on scriptures when i want to.....and last time i checked this is also a debate forum where anyone can give their view on certain scriptures and spiritual truth and most on here do exactly what i do....since i've come on here all i've seen you do is ridicule those with religious beliefs and judge and attack others.....and my ignorance on a particular church (there are so many) in no way puts into question my views on scripture....i never claimed to be an expert on religion or even the different sects of christian denominations....ive even stated bf that i know the bible but im still learning.......
and and it is your subsequent interaction which has structured the further development of the digression currently - and tediously - under way.