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Rosie and Extremism

 
 
Atavistic
 
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Reply Fri 22 Sep, 2006 07:55 pm
plainoldme wrote:
gungasnake wrote:
Better yet, do you feel safer on account of those dickheads having done that?


Do you mean the CIA employees who flew the planes into the WTC?

You don't seriously believe that do you?
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 10:22 am
Why not? The bush administration is that evil and the CIA has been found guilty of all manner of terrible things.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 01:01 pm
Re: Rosie and Extremism
snood wrote:
Rosie O'Donnell shocked a lot of people - a couple of whom were sitting next to her on the set - by coming out strongly against "Christian extremists", who she sees as just as dangerous as "Muslim extremists".


The questions she raised are volatile - especially in the present atmosphere of fighting the "Islamo-Fascists".

Will she be shouted down by the Christian influence,
who find her comments outrageous because the abortion clinic bombers
and soldier funeral protesters aren't as bad as the WTC crashers
?


The error is that thay are dangerous
in equal degree; clearly the Moslems
are inflicting a lot more casualities,
on a daily basis, for religious purposes.

I believe that she just enjoys
being iconoclasticly anti-American.

There is no reason to shout her down.
Foolish statements do not require shouted responses.
Her comments are not so much "outrageous"
as thay are ridiculous.

David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 01:08 pm
MarionT wrote:
Rosie spoke the truth. Extreme Christianity hates people like Rosie--because she is gay and they would throw her in jail if they could completely control the government. That's why Bushie and his gang have to be totally beaten in November!!

I voted for the Bushes,
all 4 times ( with little enthusiasm ), but I agree that
Christian fundamentalists like Pat Robertson
wud inflict a totalitarianism upon us,
based upon Christianity, if thay possibly cud.

Bad enuf that W interferes with scientific inquiry
into stem cell use.

David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 01:15 pm
Atavistic wrote:
plainoldme wrote:
gungasnake wrote:
Better yet, do you feel safer on account of those dickheads having done that?


Do you mean the CIA employees who flew the planes into the WTC?

You don't seriously believe that do you?

The world has a lot of
mentally ill people, Atavistic,
who are out-of-touch with reality.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 01:17 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
plainoldme wrote:
gungasnake wrote:
Better yet, do you feel safer on account of those dickheads having done that?


Do you mean the CIA employees who flew the planes into the WTC?

You don't seriously believe that do you?

The world has a lot of
mentally ill people, Atavistic,
who are out-of-touch with reality.
It's the ones with guns that I find frightening.
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Atavistic
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 05:36 pm
plainoldme wrote:
Why not? The bush administration is that evil and the CIA has been found guilty of all manner of terrible things.

Evil???? Hardly.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 06:27 pm
dyslexia wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
plainoldme wrote:
gungasnake wrote:
Better yet, do you feel safer on account of those dickheads having done that?


Do you mean the CIA employees who flew the planes into the WTC?

You don't seriously believe that do you?

The world has a lot of
mentally ill people, Atavistic,
who are out-of-touch with reality.
It's the ones with guns that I find frightening.

Thru out history,
men of varying degrees of mental stability
have been armed with such weapons as thay chose
to make or to buy.
Its always been that way;
we 've gotten along OK, for the most part.

U have your own guns.
Keep your mind prepared to act in self defense,
if that shud prove to be necessary,
the same way u keep a spare tire in your trunk.
No big deal, nor need for fright.

David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 06:32 pm
For quite a few years,
I have favored law to allow the BANISHMENT
of violent recidivists, from the North Amercan Continent,
regardless the state of their mental health.

David
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Atavistic
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 07:33 pm
plainoldme wrote:
Why not? The bush administration is that evil and the CIA has been found guilty of all manner of terrible things.

Maybe you've been hanging out here too much:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/signs/sign29.jpg
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 23 Sep, 2006 11:17 pm
Atavistic wrote:
Maybe you've been hanging out here too much:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/signs/sign29.jpg


I actually have hung out there quite a lot - its really a neat multi-use park. Huge (over 4500 acres), it is the site of what was to have been the USAF Air Defence Command airbase for the Chicago-Milwaukee metroplex. Named for area native Richard Bong, WWII fighter ace, the central feature would have been a 12,500-foot main runway with a parallel 10,000-foot secondary runway, along with several taxiways, parking pads, and access roads. The hangars and other mission-critical support facillities were to be underground. The regional Air Defense Command airbase project was cancelled and defunded at the end of the 1950s; with $Millions already spent and numerous structures and underground facilities built or under way, construction at Bong was halted just days before concrete was to have been laid for the runway complex. Though never finished, and today not open to the public, some of the underground facillities still exist, used as garage, maintenance and storage areas for park equipment and supplies - they're cavernous.

Here's an aerial view showing what remains of the runway layout:

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4715/bongwi01novqq6.jpg
(This was taken late autum 2001. North is just about 35 degrees to the right of straight up, the top-left-to-bottom-right diagonal equals roughly 3 miles.)

And here's a current Wisconsin Dept. of Natural Resources map of the park:

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7647/bongmapfu7.jpg
The long diagonal road at the top of the dark gray area runs along the main runway route.

Link to Park's Website
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 24 Sep, 2006 04:26 pm
Does it seem hypocritical
that on her cancelled show
Rosie was virulently opposed
to freedom of access to the means
of self defense, for ordinary folks,
yet she hired armed bodyguards ?

David
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 24 Sep, 2006 04:39 pm
"Viruntly opposed to freedom of access to the means of self defense..."



What's that mean? Rosie didn't want anyone to own a gun?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 24 Sep, 2006 06:54 pm
snood wrote:
"Viruntly opposed to freedom of access to the means of self defense..."



What's that mean? Rosie didn't want anyone to own a gun?

Yes; she used to get pretty mad about it,
on her cancelled show
( except for the armed bodyguards that she hired )
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 24 Sep, 2006 08:50 pm
Be clear, David - mad about what? That anyone owned guns besides her bodyguards?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 24 Sep, 2006 10:33 pm
snood wrote:
Be clear, David - mad about what? That anyone owned guns besides her bodyguards?

Yes, but she did not admit
to the armed guards until thay were discovered.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2006 05:22 am
I sincerely doubt that Rosie McDonald has ever said or suggested that she thinks no one should own guns...
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2006 10:20 am
snood wrote:
I sincerely doubt that Rosie McDonald has ever said
or suggested that she thinks no one should own guns...

Your sincerity to the contrary notwithstanding,
she was known for this ( allowing an exception for police,
and maybe for the Army ).

She used to get emotionally ( negatively emotionally ) loud
on this subject.

It was also a minor mini-scandal that she was rude
to Tom Selleck ( subjected him to a tirade, n wud not let him respond )
when he was a guest on her show,
because of his having previously appeared in ads on television
in support of each citizen's freedom of self defense,
and in support of each citizen's freedom of access to equipment
necessary for self defense.

She was known for that.


It is interesting that a surprizingly large number
of liberals who r forceful in their opposition
to an ordinary citizen 's right to arm himself
in defense of his life or his other property,
carry guns themselves, and keep armed bodyguards.

David
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2006 10:34 am
Surprisingly large? What percentage do you have on this, OmSig? What statistics or facts lead you to believe this? What research have you done to show that this is true?

My guess is: none. And I'm saying this as a guy who supports the Second Amendment and people's rights to own firearms.

Cycloptichorn
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echi
 
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Reply Mon 25 Sep, 2006 10:37 am
Gun-lovers are always looking for someone to shoot.
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