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WHO WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER?

 
 
au1929
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 08:06 am
Snood

BE EVER VILIGANT.

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Over the next ten days there will be an altogether too familiar and sordid attempt to get out the vote. This will be done by inserting wedge issues like gay marriage, flag-burning or wars against Christmas to incite the base; push-polling, like asking voters if they would vote for John McCain for President if they knew he had fathered a black baby; intimating that a black politician, like say, Harold Ford, might know a "naked" white woman intimately or that House candidate Tammy Duckworth of Illinois, WHO LOST BOTH LEGS IN IRAQ, is a "cut and runner™." They might even being very scary letting the folks know that those Hate America™ Democrats want the terrorists to win™. Or even worse...Nancy Pelosi...BOO!

Part and parcel of that effort will be an effort to keep certain people from voting. Poll tax, voter IDs, Diebold, less voting machines in certain voting precincts, longer lines and scrubbed registration rolls. In Ohio it's called Ken Blackwell. On radio, it's Sean Hannity simply telling Democrats to stay home (Patriotic, dis New Media™, ain't it?).

What would really be fun this November 7th is that instead of sitting on our asses and allowing this gang of thugs from stealing the mid-term election, Americans use every one of these attempts to manipulate the voter, not as a deterrant to vote, but as an incentive to throw them out of office by voting. Perhaps that will send out a message strong and clear...THAT CRAP DON'T WORK 'ROUND HERE NO MORE!™


It is designed to play on the fears of people and unfortunately it does work. The republicans know how to play the game.
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 08:32 am
Yup. They have perfected various approaches to ensure maximum turn-out of "their" people in the voting booths. Used to be that the Dems were best at getting out the vote. Time to get back to those basics. Spend more money on that, less on stupid ads.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 08:36 am
I think the Republican fear machine has jumped the shark.

Between the Democrats are terrorists message being seen as clearly foolish, to the Harold Ford likes white women debacle, I think the Republican message is about to be shown quite weak.

I do agree we need to keep working to win this one.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 08:41 am
The Republicans very quickly used the recent decision of a NJ court to engage in gay bashing for political advantage. The decision says that gay couples are entitled to the same legal rights and financial benefits that heterosexual couples enjoy. This raises the question whether Republicans deserve to win anything on 11/7.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/27/us/politics/27marriage.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin
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sumac
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 08:57 am
We all agree, of course. I spent a number of hours watching the tube last night where the various ads were dissected by talking heads with the appropriate credentials and backgrounds. No crystal clear consensus.

True believers won't be swayed, but these Repug ads may well cement tendency of Independents to vote Democratic. That is where the important movement is coming from anyway.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 09:31 am
Democrats are busy accusing Republicans of doing exactly what Democrats do. Republicans are busy accusing Democrats of doing exactly what Democrats do. I'd prefer they both spend more time telling us what they themselves are going to do.

DEMOCRATS ARE PSYCHOTICS
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http://www.m-w.com
Main Entry: psy·cho·sis
Pronunciation: sI-'kO-s&s
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural psy·cho·ses -"sEz/
Etymology: New Latin
: fundamental derangement of the mind (as in schizophrenia) characterized by defective or lost contact with reality especially as evidenced by delusions, hallucinations, and disorganized speech and behavior


REPUBLICANS ARE NEUROTICS
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http://www.m-w.com
Main Entry: neu·ro·sis
Pronunciation: nu-'rO-s&s, nyu-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural neu·ro·ses -"sEz/
Etymology: New Latin
: a mental and emotional disorder that affects only part of the personality, is accompanied by a less distorted perception of reality than in a psychosis, does not result in disturbance of the use of language, and is accompanied by various physical, physiological, and mental disturbances (as visceral symptoms, anxieties, or phobias)


NEUROTICS WILL WIN OVER PSYCHOTICS
The Republicans will add 3 seats in the House and add 1 seat in the Senate, because the voters will by election day realize that the psychotic Democrats are a far greater threat to our security than the neurotic Republicans.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 10:24 am
You predictions are going to be fun to respond to in two weeks. I think I will wait.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 11:11 am
ebrown_p wrote:
You predictions are going to be fun to respond to in two weeks. I think I will wait.

Chicken!
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Advocate
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 11:27 am
The RNC ads are so desperate and sleazy that they are backfiring.


http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_rob_kall_061026_rnc_ads___so_despera.htm
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 11:28 am
ican711nm wrote:
ebrown_p wrote:
You predictions are going to be fun to respond to in two weeks. I think I will wait.

Chicken!


How about a bet? $100 on the House.
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snood
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 11:29 am
ebrown_p wrote:
You predictions are going to be fun to respond to in two weeks. I think I will wait.


I hope you're right, ebrown, I really do.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 12:03 pm
blatham wrote:
ican711nm wrote:
ebrown_p wrote:
You predictions are going to be fun to respond to in two weeks. I think I will wait.

Chicken!

How about a bet? $100 on the House.

OK! YES!

Shocked Whoops! On second thought, make that DEPENDS!

How about first telling me how I can be sure of collecting when you lose? After all, you are a leflib, right? Oh, I forgot! I cannot trust the word of leflibs.

Besides a trustworthy person would have responded by posting their own predictions and then, perhaps, make a potentially uncollectible $100 bet.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 12:04 pm
snood wrote:
ebrown_p wrote:
You predictions are going to be fun to respond to in two weeks. I think I will wait.


I hope you're right, ebrown, I really do.

Why?
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 12:08 pm
the bet is on majority of seats in congress. you don't have cause to doubt that I'll send the money immediately.
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 04:12 pm
Poll: 74 percent of Americans say Congress out of touch
POSTED: 1:48 p.m. EDT, October 18, 2006

(CNN) -- Just weeks before crucial midterm elections, a new poll says nearly three quarters of Americans see Congress as out of touch, much as they did in 1994, the last time the minority party took control of Capitol Hill.

Seventy-four percent of respondents to a new Opinion Research poll say Congress is generally out of touch with average Americans. That's up from 69 percent who agreed with that view in a January poll this year.

In 1994, 75 percent of respondents to a CNN poll also said Congress was out of touch. Voters then proceeded to vote out Democrats in both the House and the Senate, a sweep that hadn't been seen in the House since 1952. (Watch to see if the middle-class American dream is broken -- 1:50)

Recent polls have suggested increased voter interest in this election, as growing unpopularity over the U.S.-led war in Iraq and scandals in Congress have boiled over into the political arena. (Full story)

The GOP's hold on power in Congress is slim. Democrats need only a net gain of 15 seats to retake the House and six to control the Senate. Political watchers say those majorities, especially the one in the House, may be threatened.

According to the poll, 58 percent of respondents said they believe most members of Congress are focused on special interests, and 38 percent said the legislators pay more attention to constituents.

Chasing the American dream
Belief in the so-called "American dream," according to the poll, appears to be split between college graduates and people without college degrees. Sixty percent of respondents who had no college degree said it's impossible for most people to achieve the American dream, while only 38 percent of grads said so.

Nearly half of the 506 people surveyed on that topic said they have just enough money to maintain their standard of living, while 26 percent contended they are falling behind. Less than a quarter, or 23 percent, said they are getting ahead.

More than half, or 54 percent, agreed that the American dream has become impossible for most people to achieve. Forty-five percent disagreed, and the rest had no opinion. Those numbers were roughly the same in results from a poll in January 2003 -- almost two years before President Bush won re-election.

White House and 'big business'
Fifty-five percent of respondents said they are dissatisfied with the current opportunities for the next generation to live better than their parents, and 44 percent said they were satisfied.

Respondents also were asked whether "big business" has too much influence over decisions made by the Bush administration.

Seventy-nine percent of those surveyed in the new Opinion Research poll said they feel big business does have too much influence over the administration's decisions. The poll comes after a congressional lobbying scandal and questions about White House ties to the Halliburton Co., a key U.S. contractor in the Iraq war.

The percentage of people who feel the administration is overly influenced by corporations is up 10 percentage points from a poll conducted in April 2001, a few months after Bush became president.

The newly released poll is based on phone interviews with 1,012 adult Americans. The margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points. For the half sample of 506 respondents, the margin of error is plus or or minus 4.5 percentage points.


Tro de bums out!!
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flyingpegs
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 04:32 pm
The Senate Race
I'm in Virginia and we are hoping Webb will oust the racist Allen. He was relatively well-liked as our governor but there are at least as many Webb signs planted on people's lawns as there are Allen signs. Whatever happens come November, the Senate will definitely not look the same. Razz
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 06:39 pm
blatham wrote:
the bet is on majority of seats in congress. you don't have cause to doubt that I'll send the money immediately.


First, explicitly state your bet, so there will be no misunderstanding about what you are betting on.

Second, a trustworthy person would have first responded by posting their own predictions and then would have explicitly stated their bet.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 06:41 pm
ican711nm wrote:
blatham wrote:
the bet is on majority of seats in congress. you don't have cause to doubt that I'll send the money immediately.


First, explicitly state your bet, so there will be no misunderstanding about what you are betting on.

Second, a trustworthy person would have first responded by posting their own predictions and then would have explicitly stated their bet.

Nevermind. (weasel)
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Fri 27 Oct, 2006 11:44 pm
ican and blatham:

I suggest you BOTH send your checks to a mutually agreed on third person. Somebody who is well thought of by both camps, so to speak.

The day after election day, that person agrees to send the winner two checks-the one he wrote plus the loser's check.

One candidate who comes to mind is Timberlandko.

What about it, guys.

Timber, would that be alright with you?
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Thomas
 
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Reply Sat 28 Oct, 2006 04:15 am
blatham wrote:
the bet is on majority of seats in congress. you don't have cause to doubt that I'll send the money immediately.

Am I just imagining things, or are the only ones putting their money where their mouths are Democrats and Independents?
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