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WHO WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER?

 
 
ican711nm
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2008 04:15 pm
@ican711nm,
OBAMA LIES
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Senator McCain doesn't care what's going on in the lives of Americans. I just think he doesn't know. Why else would he define middle-class as someone making under $5 million a year? How else could he propose hundreds of billions in tax breaks for big corporations and oil companies but not one penny of tax relief to more than 100 million Americans?

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For over two decades, he's subscribed to that old, discredited Republican philosophy " give more and more to those with the most and hope that prosperity trickles down to everyone else. In Washington, they call this the Ownership Society

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Change means a tax code that doesn't reward the lobbyists who wrote it, but the American workers and small businesses who deserve it.

Unlike John McCain, I will stop giving tax breaks to corporations that ship jobs overseas, and I will start giving them to companies that create good jobs right here in America.

I will eliminate capital gains taxes for the small businesses and the startups that will create the high-wage, high-tech jobs of tomorrow.

I will cut taxes " cut taxes for 95% of all working families. Because in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle-class.

OBAMA HAS FAILED TO CONFESS THAT THE BUSH TAX CUTS HAVE ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED ALL OF THESE THINGS EXCEPT REDUCE CAPITAL GAINS TAX FROM $15 PER $100 TO $0 PER $100 "FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES AND START UPS"

EXAMPLES:

In Clinton's tax program, as of the year 2000, all those whose taxable income is not over $43,050, had to pay $15 per each $100 of taxable income.

But in Bush's tax program, as of the year 2008, all those whose taxable income is not over $16,050, have to pay only $10 per each $100 of taxable income.


In Clinton's tax program, as of the year 2000, all those whose taxable income is over $43,050 but not over $104,050, had to pay $28 per each $100 of taxable income.

But in Bush's tax program, as of the year 2008, all those whose taxable income is over $16,050 but not over $65,100, have to pay only $15 per each $100 of taxable income.


In Clinton's tax program, as of the year 2000, all those whose taxable income is over $104,050 but not over $158,550, had to pay $31 per each $100 of taxable income.

But in Bush's tax program, as of the year 2008, all those whose taxable income is over $65,100 but not over $131,450, have to pay only $25 per each $100 of taxable income.


In Clinton's tax program, as of the year 2000, all those whose taxable income is over $158,550 but not over $283,150, had to pay $36 per each $100 of taxable income.

But in Bush's tax program, as of the year 2008, all those whose taxable income is over $131,450 but not over $200,300, have to pay only $28 per each $100 of taxable income.


In Clinton's tax program, as of the year 2000, all those whose taxable income is over $283,150 had to pay $39.6 per each $100 of taxable income.

But in Bush's tax program, as of the year 2008, all those whose taxable income is over $200,300 but not over $357,700, have to pay only $33 per each $100 of taxable income.

ALSO in Bush's tax program, as of the year 2008, all those whose taxable income is over $357,700, have to pay only $35 and not $39.6 as in Clinton's tax program per each $100 of taxable income.

FURTHERMORE, MCCAINE HAS ANNOUNCED SEVERAL TIMES HE WILL REDUCE ALL INCOME TAXES TO LESS THAN HAS BUSH.



Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Tue 2 Sep, 2008 09:57 am
@ican711nm,
Allow me to post this lengthy article which partially mirrors your above view.

"As they arrive in Minneapolis for their convention, Republicans cannot evade the monuments to their misrule. Only a few miles from convention headquarters is the site of the I-35W bridge, which collapsed last summer, killing thirteen and injuring 145, symbol of the Republican drive to "starve the beast" by stinting on basic public investment, rolling back sensible regulation, scorning the very government they were elected to lead. Also nearby is the Larry Craig memorial toilet, symbol of the seamy hypocrisy of those who would enforce a blinkered morality on others, as they flout it privately. In Minnesota hotel rooms a short video, presented courtesy of the Campaign for America's Future, thanks Republicans "for the memories": Iraq, Katrina, record home foreclosures, Gilded Age inequality, corporate cronyism, Abu Ghraib, Guantánamo and more.

Eight years ago, the people gave the right the keys to the country. With a GOP Congress, conservatives had the power to govern on their own terms--and they drove the country off a cliff. America is weaker and more isolated abroad, with our reputation besmirched and our influence blunted. They've made us the world's largest debtor, with our dollar debased and our economy dependent on the generosity of foreign central bankers. Three million manufacturing jobs have been lost. George W. Bush and John McCain say the basics of the economy are strong, but most Americans have fared worse, even when the economy grew. The wealthiest 0.1 percent--those with incomes over the $5 million that McCain says one must earn to be rich--have captured grossly disproportionate rewards from the nation's growth. Corruption and cronyism--Halliburton, Enron, WorldCom, Big Pharma and Big Oil--have plundered billions from our Treasury. The Iraq debacle has squandered more than $1 trillion and counting. Heavy challenges like global warming have been scorned. Our broken healthcare system has deteriorated even further while our civil liberties have been curtailed by an imperial President who disrespects the Republic itself. The right's failure is complete.

Republicans try to sound hopeful. McCain is running neck and neck with Obama; McCain's "drill now, drill here" posturing has struck a chord with Americans taxed by high gas prices--even though the Administration's own energy experts say increased domestic drilling will do nothing to solve our energy needs or lessen dependence on foreign oil. The right is trotting out all the old tricks, braying about "tax and spend" Democrats, inveighing against elitist, arugula-eating liberals, donning once more its mock populist election-year garb.

But this is an addict's illusion. Reality says the right's time is over. The smarter ones admit it. "If we were a dog food, they'd take us off the shelf," concludes Tom Davis, former head of the Republican Congressional Campaign Committee. Republican strategist Ross Douthat concludes that we're "headed for a period of Democratic dominance, maybe four years, maybe eight or more."

Republicans have lost the past three special elections. Democrats now enjoy a robust registration edge. More than two dozen Republican incumbents decided to quit rather than fight for re-election this year. Even the corporate moneybags are hedging its bets, donating to Democratic candidates and committees, buying up Democratic lobbyists. As Senator John Ensign, chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, puts it, "If you have an R in front of your name, you better run scared." Indeed, most Republicans are running from the GOP label, acting as if they've never met George Bush.

Conservatives, of course, rarely admit failure. Already they are excoriating Bush as a "big government" deviant from the faith. Once more McCain is dusting off the old staples: tax cuts for the rich and the corporations as a recipe for growth. Corporate trade deals as a generator of jobs. More war and more imperial bluster. More Big Oil energy and Big Pharma medicine policies. He calls for privatizing Social Security and taxing healthcare benefits, and he deigns, with too many houses to keep track of, to lecture Americans on skipping vacations to make their mortgage payments. Cloistered in a life of privilege--raised on an admiral's estate, married into an heiress's fortune--McCain dares paint Barack Obama, who grew up in less than ideal circumstances, as elitist and out of touch. And so McCain's campaign is reduced to a noun, a verb and POW, invoking the one sacrifice of his life to fend off a deeper look at his career and policies. But it is not likely that even McCain will be able to sell the same old, same old, when 80 percent of Americans are looking for a dramatic change in course. "The era of 'the era of big government is over' is over," as Bill Scher of the Campaign for America's Future puts it.

Whatever outcome the election delivers, the nation is at an ideological watershed. The old order that has ruled for nearly thirty years has imploded, but a new order is not yet fully formed to replace it. McCain dare not acknowledge that market capitalism, once relieved of government regulation and social obligations, has produced harsh inequalities and brutal dislocations instead of general prosperity. Obama does not dare to describe a fully reactivated reform agenda for government, fearful that it might sound too audacious to some wary voters.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080915/editors

ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 4 Sep, 2008 11:47 am
@Ramafuchs,
Your article fails to acknowledge the destructive effects of the Democrat controlled Congress January 20, 2007 to the present, and probably to January 20, 2009. They blocked votes--that is, they refused to permit votes--on judicial appointments, on extending current income taxes, on reductions of earmarks, on oil drilling, ...
ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 4 Sep, 2008 12:10 pm
@ican711nm,
CORRECTION
Your article fails to acknowledge the destructive effects of the Democrat controlled Congress January [SIZE]3[/SIZE], 2007 to the present, and probably to January [SIZE]3[/SIZE], 2009. They blocked votes--that is, they refused to permit votes--on judicial appointments, on extending current income taxes, on reductions of earmarks, on oil drilling, ...
ican711nm
 
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Reply Thu 4 Sep, 2008 12:23 pm
@ican711nm,
CORRECTION AGAIN
Your article fails to acknowledge the destructive effects of the Democrat controlled Congress January 3, 2007 to the present, and probably to January 3, 2009. They blocked votes--that is, they refused to permit votes--on judicial appointments, on extending current income taxes, on reductions of earmarks, on oil drilling, ...
ican711nm
 
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Reply Tue 9 Sep, 2008 03:13 pm
@ican711nm,
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http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com/
http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/unabridged?va=demagogue&x=27&y=8

Main Entry: 1dem·a·gogue
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Function: noun
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2 : one who employs demagogic methods; especially : a political leader who seeks to gain personal or partisan advantage by specious or extravagant claims, promises, or charges : RABBLE-ROUSER <play statesman one moment and demagogue the next -- Economist>


Barack Obama is a demagogue. and the agent of demagogues.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 9 Sep, 2008 08:15 pm
@ican711nm,
That definition makes McCain and Palin demagogues as well..

Palin's specious claim how she opposed the bridge to nowhere. (Only after she supported it.)

McCain's specious charges that Obama will raise everyone's taxes.
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