Nuke Iran

Your lack of political understanding doesn't surprise me. We shouldn't give the U.N. a friggin dime of what we "owe" them. We owe them nothing. Kofi and his boys are just a bunch of thug-crooks.

It is typical of the CIA to try to solve problems by suggesting assassinations of anyone who is against Bushie. It won't work with Chavez, though!

It is typical of the CIA to try to solve problems by suggesting assassinations of anyone who is against Bushie.

It won't work with Chavez, though!

Yes, Someone should pull the plug on the apologist terror supporters on A2K. That would mean the supporters of the worst terrorist of them all- Bushie. He is the one who has killed millions and called it a defense against terrorism when there were no WMD's to be found. Everyone knows he lied!

Saddam never had any Nukes. There were no WMD's. That has been proven over and over. Saddam would never have tried to place a nuclear device in our ports. Islam is basically peaceful and the Zionists have tried to demonize that religion. It is the fundamentalists in the USA who are intolerant of all others and think that anyone who is not born again will be damned for all eternity.

Saddam never had any Nukes.

There were no WMD's. That has been proven over and over.

Saddam would never have tried to place a nuclear device in our ports.

Islam is basically peaceful

and the Zionists have tried to demonize that religion.

It is the fundamentalists in the USA who are intolerant of all others
and think that anyone who is not born again will be damned for all eternity.

... Islam is basically peaceful and the Zionists have tried to demonize that religion. It is the fundamentalists in the USA who are intolerant of all others and think that anyone who is not born again will be damned for all eternity.

MarionT wrote:

... Islam is basically peaceful and the Zionists have tried to demonize that religion. It is the fundamentalists in the USA who are intolerant of all others and think that anyone who is not born again will be damned for all eternity.

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We shouldn't look to religion for the root of the problem.
This is NOT a religious war.
The perverts waging this extremist violence are not religious leaders.

It appears that u r not up on current events.
Atta led the 9/11 attacks
for purely, and singularly obsessive religious reasons.
That is true also for Laden, his leader.
It is ONLY a religious war; nothing else.

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Why should we believe these nutjobs
instead of the more rational believers

Because
the nutjobs are the ones shooting up the town
and running suicide boming campaigns; THAT 's Y.

Bear in mind that each terrorist
who is killed in Iraq,
is one that cannot commit his suicide boming HERE,
as thay COMMONLY do in Israel.
In terms of American security,
it is worth while REMEMBERING that.

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There are only two ways I can see us going with this.
We can either try to cooperate, intelligently, in reaching satisfactory agreements with others around the world who are also wanting to cooperate... OR we need to get busy killing more folks in the Middle East (and elsewhere), because there are lots of people aiming to kill us, as it is, and apparently, the more of them we kill, the more we create.
I predict that, at the rate we're going, it will probably take some seriously impressive nuclear technology to contain the spread.
You might even argue (if you were not too bright) that it's cruel to postpone the nukes, because the longer we wait the more we will end-up having to kill.

Consider this:
elderly Moslems know that their future
is in their youth. Thay take their religion seriously
and thay know that with the advent of the free flow of information,
from the Western World,
their youth will become progressively more aware
that there r less stringently demanding ways available
to live their lives than what the Moslems require of them.

If thay see their youth going the way of the free West,
thay will be rendered most distressed indeed,
and act accordingly.
When thay said " accept Islam or die " thay MEANT it 1000 years ago,
and I think thay mean it now.

David

Saddam never had any Nukes. There were no WMD's. That has been proven over and over. Saddam would never have tried to place a nuclear device in our ports. Islam is basically peaceful and the Zionists have tried to demonize that religion. It is the fundamentalists in the USA who are intolerant of all others and think that anyone who is not born again will be damned for all eternity.

Saddam never had any Nukes. There were no WMD's. That has been proven over and over. Saddam would never have tried to place a nuclear device in our ports. Islam is basically peaceful and the Zionists have tried to demonize that religion. It is the fundamentalists in the USA who are intolerant of all others and think that anyone who is not born again will be damned for all eternity.

He had a nuclear development program
that the Jews blew up in 1981
( thanks be unto them ).

He actually USED them,
killing 1000s of people with them,
and u say that there were no WMDs.
What world do YOU live in ?

Since age 10,
Saddam has been a homicidal maniac.
Since the end of the First Gulf War,
when we kicked him out of Kuwait,
he has had a GRUDGE against us,
and access to nukes.

How basicly peaceful were thay on 9/11 ?
The only reason Laden has not nuked us
is that he can 't; on the day that he can, HE WILL.

How about when the Moslems
say " accept Islam or DIE " in their public statements ??

Anyone ( even u )
can THINK whatever he wants to think, Marion.
What he DOES is another matter.
David

OmSigDAVID wrote:

He had a nuclear development program
that the Jews blew up in 1981
( thanks be unto them ).

Please rename them Zionists, the real Jews would appreciate the effort to differentiate the two. They are tired of being "lumped together" with a secular group of terrorists, portraying themselves to be Jews and holding the middle east and America hostage.
Lemme get this straight:
u r DENYING that the fellows
in the air force planes,
who left Israel,
then bomed Saddam 's nuclear installation,
and returned to Israel are Jews ?
Maybe u think thay were Presbitarians ?

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He actually USED them,
killing 1000s of people with them,
and u say that there were no WMDs.
What world do YOU live in ?

True, so we are told.

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Since age 10,
Saddam has been a homicidal maniac.
Since the end of the First Gulf War,
when we kicked him out of Kuwait,
he has had a GRUDGE against us,
and access to nukes.

So if he is such a fanatical, rabid dictator,
He was an absolute monarch
until we put him out of business.
He had more political power than Louis Capet XIV.
why did he not use any against invading US forces?
Because, as a result of W approaching
with the speed of a glacier,
like a crack dealer who sees the DEA
approaching his front door,
he stashed them with the Baath Party in Syria.

Because he didn't have any,
and Bush knew it. Easy target for him.
Let 's assume that u r correct.
The next week Saddam cud have gotten nukes
from disaffected half-starving Russian scientists
or military officers next door, in Russia.
That was an unacceptable risk
to American port cities.
GOOD JOB, W !!! THANK U.
( kinda SLOW getting STARTED, but still...)

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How basicly peaceful were thay on 9/11 ?
The only reason Laden has not nuked us
is that he can 't; on the day that he can, HE WILL.

I suppose you aren't familiar with the CIA collaboration with Pakistan's ISI to fund Bin Laden for over 10 years
So, in your opinion,
the US Army shud have done the job
DIRECTLY, against the Red Army
in Afganistan ? or just LEAVE THE RED ARMY
IN PEACE in Afganistan ?
Leave communist occupation intact ??

to establish the Al Qaeda network?
The Bin Laden card is played to incite fear in people, thinking they need
the big protective government to keep them safe. How convenient. And let's forget the fact that the FBI doesn't even list him as a suspect on their 'most wanted list' for 9/11
Correct me if I 'm rong,
but I thought that the list
was for fugitives in America ???

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How about when the Moslems
say " accept Islam or DIE " in their public statements ??

That can be viewed in a different light.
By the clones of Neville Chamberlain

Accept us as we are, stop forcing democracy or anything else on us,
or expect resistance. We don't want to change, leave us alone.
Traditionally,
when thay say that,
thay have a sword against
some Christian 's neck,
and thay 've PROVEN on videotape, in living color,
that it is not a bluff.

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Anyone ( even u )
can THINK whatever he wants to think, Marion.
What he DOES is another matter.
David

You are correct about actions. So let us view what the US and Israel have done, just so we all understand.

The US went against the UN to invade Iraq.
That was due to Zionist pressure to fight their war for them.
W KNEW that his dad
DID NOT FINISH THE JOB
and left Saddam INTACT.
It was a proAmerican
defensive effort.
I am not a Jew
and I am indifferent to Zionism.




Iraq would only ever pose a threat to Israel, and their little Zionist cockroaches that skitter to and fro around the desert.

The US continually vetoes any UN resolution that may arise against the 'perfect' Zionist Israel that upholds all human rights for their neighbors This was glaringly apparent with the vote in Congress to support the outright atrocities carried forth against Lebanese civilians in July, by the IDF. (410-8 in favor to support Israel) Let's not forget about the rush order of cluster bombs to fend off those vicious civilians trying to flee the IDF fighters and bombers. Or those "Hezbollah ambulances".

How about the blockade of Palestine by Israel, because the Palestinian people voted for who they wanted, instead of what the US and Israel wanted? How about those 1.5 million people barely living, and on the brink of starvation because they wouldn't goose-step to the Zionist tune?
Is that called democracy? No wonder they reject it.

How about US ignorance of the Geneva conventions? I suppose those torture tactics only apply to terrorists eh? The problem is, who defines who is or who isn't a terrorist? It could easily apply to anyone who is a dissenter against the government ideology. A politicized witch hunt to wipe out any opposition to their rule.

Israel has violated more UN resolutions than any other country in the world, thanks to US veto power.

Israel has not signed the NPT, nor have they ever allowed any UN inspector, or such, into Israel to confirm, nor even view the nuclear weapons possessed by Israel. The estimate is 200-400 nuclear warheads.

That's just a warmup, there is plenty more to recite. I find the flagrant disregard all too apparent. Defying the UN to engage in an illegal war is one thing. How is America leading by example?
R we supposed to DO that ??
Is that in the Constitution, or something ??



Pretty soon, you'll see other nations saying, piss on it, the US never listened to the UN, so we'll ignore them too. They won't do anything, unless it's against Israel. So much for civilized nations, and probably the Geneva conventions as well.

What if China and Russia decided to abandon the UN,
for the sole purpose of engaging in illegal wars?
We need to put an END to the UN.
It is too DANGEROUS,
approaching a one world government
which wud and will degenerate, inevitably,
into a permanent despotism,
with ever improving methods of microsurveillance
of its subject populations.

A one world government
will make us the ancestors of the Borg.

echi wrote:

We shouldn't look to religion for the root of the problem.
This is NOT a religious war.
The perverts waging this extremist violence are not religious leaders.

It appears that u r not up on current events.
Atta led the 9/11 attacks
for purely, and singularly obsessive religious reasons.
That is true also for Laden, his leader.
It is ONLY a religious war; nothing else.

Please rename them Zionists, the real Jews would appreciate the effort to differentiate the two. They are tired of being "lumped together" with a secular group of terrorists, portraying themselves to be Jews and holding the middle east and America hostage.