Careless Nudity

Good grief.

There are a zillion different issues there.

For one, why on earth is a guy who tried to abuse her daughter living next door?

That alone makes me think that this whole thing may well be hogwash (I mean, what??), but to address just one of the zillion issues, this



by itself, is really dumb. Why not put her in a burkha; the more that the woman you love shows her face the more it cheapens, degrades, or otherwise destroys the sanctity you hold for your relationship, right?

I see a woman who is clueless. I enjoy being naked on at home or the nude beaches but going to the car or prancing in front of an open window in a crowded neighborhood is going too far. What's her address?

things that make you say hmmm
No offense intended here, but I find the whole premise hard to believe. Ever notice that these type of sex questions are 100% from Newly Hatched. Want to bet it's from the same few people?

If this is even a remotely legit and truthful situation in your life, Short and sweet, the answer is this:

Leave that relationship. It's a total mismatch. You two don't belong together. and the sooner that relationship ends, the better off all your lives will be.
Your values and hers are diametrically opposed. There is no compromise.

Here's another gotch'ya: You said this: "I am seeing a woman who is a mother of 3 girls. We are at the love stage of our relationship."

If you're being sexually intimate with this woman while in the home of this mother and her 3 minor kids, then you could be risking having the mother being reported to authorities for being an unfit mother. She can have her kids taken away from her and put in foster homes. Plus with the pervo abusive relative next door, you have a trifecta going on there. And, if she's parading in front of open windows in the nude, she SHOULD have her kids taken away! what an idiot!

As Chester A. Reilly would say "What a revoltin' development THIS is!"


Also, if you stay together the both of you have mental problems.

(I KNOW I'm going to regret responding here)

I'm with you, Ragman.

Free Spirit meets High Minded Idealist and seeks to "reform".

Not a good match.

Lots of women run around naked while going to the car or standing in front of an open window or while shopping. Why bother getting all dressed up? It's all the worse with kids around when they could spill something and ruin your clothes. I think she's doing the right thing.

huh? women with children cant date?

Of course they can. Who said they can't?

I think in your own home or on your own property you can walk around in the buff.

But I agree if your in a relationship you should keep each others bodies 'for your eyes only'.

I can understand the kids embarrasment but I think the kids have been affected by the life long 'rule' that the naked body is an ugly thing and you must be ashamed of it or it will attract 'undesrables'.
I think this is a shame as its is nothing to be ashamed off.

As already stated you dont sound right for each other.

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This is exactly the kind of responses I wanted to see. Thank you. I did not take any of these responses as insulting or whatever. In fact I thought they were funny. I also can see how what I said could be taken in differnet ways.

Some clarification and responses:




He is the 80 year old step father. This happened 3 years ago or so when the woman was maybe 30 and the mother and step father had been next door for a long time.



Well this was an attempt to express how her attitude about nudity makes me feel given my psyche. I do entertain that some of my feelings might be a little extreme but then again I really don't want to be with someone that has the outlook of a stripper or nudist as a matter of compatibility.



That of course would be extreme. I'm talking about extremes of showing her body as in total nudity or anything out of the main stream as most of society would view it.



Good one! This is out in the country but there are still people around as well as the step father who tried to make a pass and who she claims she is very careful around. Most of the time she is seemingly prim and proper and concerned about class and then the other stripper personality kicks in .... I got a kick out of you asking for her address. That actually demonstrates my concern. Would any of you want people talking about your girlfriend or wife like that? That is not unrealisitc for the word to get out about that kind of thing. The address gets around and then bleachers are set up outside with binocular rentals...



This is totally legitimate unfortunately. Staying or leaving the relationship is my motivation for crying out here.



I would say that depends on how that is being handled and the precautions taken. Even I don't quite see it as being that severe. BUT the waking around with no clothes with the possiblitiy of being seen from outside does seem to me a questionable practice that is sending a message to the kids.

Don't regret responding that's your opinion and I respect that.



Well put! She is more of a free spirit than I am obviously at least relative to open nudity. But she has so many mixed signals about this stuff.



This has to be tongue in cheek....right? Funny though...



Thank you! Thats all I'm saying that I happen to hold the deep feelings of intimacy as connected and expressed sexually very sacrid to the relationship. I'm not a total prude as I would get into hot looking women at a strip club or nude beach or whereever. It is the intimacy, love and all the deeper emotions and feelings that go with a serious relationship that form my feelings about keeping it sacrid to the relationship.

I don't think the kids were embarrassed about the nudity in itself but rather they saw some inappropriate behavior with that nudity. I agree that the body is not something to be ashamed of but I still think, like so many things, that there is a time and place for everything. There is appropriate behavior for different things as well as inappropriate behavior. Other wise anything goes and I believe that leads to chaos.

the undesirables, unfortunately, are a part of the real world. It's not that nudity in itself attracts these bad apples but rather the misuse of nudity that could lure them into an undesirable situation.

The confusing part of this whole situation is the mixed signals between a prim and proper, class minded, educated woman and a stripper mentality. She admitted that her abusive history might be why she does not hold her body sacrid and just doesn't think about it as most would.

Thanks for all the response and please keep them coming.

You want more?


You're a crackpot!


How's that?



(pssst....nick....tomorrow is trash day and I've got to take out the garbage AND the recycle....I'll flash the porch light twice before I come out au natural so you can get your binoculars adjusted)

Note to self-- find video camera....

I have my binoculars at the ready Chai. I can only imagine that you will have to stand in front of the window as well. I can hardly wait!

This is absolute bollocks.

She likes showing off her body and he wants to put her in a burkha? What a recipe for perfect harmony eh?



Thank God I don't suffer from that kind of jealousy. Not nice!

I had a girlfriend who liked to show off. We would go skinny dipping and she'd like to prance around in her short "easy blow away" skirt and bend over in her "easy to see" cleavage. I probably should have married her. Oh wait -- I did! Then we got divorced 5 years later. Fun while it lasted!

That sounds like just the sort of thing I would do, Nick. No, wait, I have...[only joking]

God, I hate bloody bhurkas...

Re: things that make you say hmmm
Trusting the judgement of my fellow A2K posters, I havent even bothered reading the opening post (sorry).

But I do want to know what Ragman, whom I know as a smart and reasonable poster, is on about here:


Err, what?

If you're a single mother, you cant have sex with your boyfriend in your own home?

What am I missing?

I do too.
that is why I wear a tampon

Nimh,


here in america, where everyone is in everyone elses business...


a situation like that could bring about someone calling child protective services.
a long shot

but it has happened.